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Old February 24th 04, 07:05 PM
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Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with. any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great. I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin


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Old February 25th 04, 10:53 PM
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"Dustin" wrote in message ...
Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with. any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great. I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin


They sell a small "grain of wheat" type bulb that could be made to
work. Look for the one that draws 25 ma. One problem is the original
bulbs don't use wire leads per say. The short leads from the original
bulbs are soldered directly to the board. So you might have to
slightly modify the mounting. There are 4 bulbs total. Overall, it
might be better to order the yaesu bulbs, if you want it to look
original. The original bulbs have an orange shell. To extend bulb
life, don't turn the display brightness all the way up on the new
bulbs. MK
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Old February 25th 04, 10:53 PM
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"Dustin" wrote in message ...
Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with. any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great. I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin


They sell a small "grain of wheat" type bulb that could be made to
work. Look for the one that draws 25 ma. One problem is the original
bulbs don't use wire leads per say. The short leads from the original
bulbs are soldered directly to the board. So you might have to
slightly modify the mounting. There are 4 bulbs total. Overall, it
might be better to order the yaesu bulbs, if you want it to look
original. The original bulbs have an orange shell. To extend bulb
life, don't turn the display brightness all the way up on the new
bulbs. MK
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Old February 26th 04, 12:30 AM
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On 25 Feb 2004 14:53:17 -0800, Mark Keith wrote:

They sell a small "grain of wheat" type bulb that could be made to
work. Look for the one that draws 25 ma. One problem is the original
bulbs don't use wire leads per say. The short leads from the original
bulbs are soldered directly to the board. So you might have to
slightly modify the mounting. There are 4 bulbs total. Overall, it
might be better to order the yaesu bulbs, if you want it to look
original. The original bulbs have an orange shell. To extend bulb
life, don't turn the display brightness all the way up on the new
bulbs. MK


After 8-10 years of 24/7 use even at the "dim" setting, I've had
meter bulb burnout in my Kenwood R-5000 and ICOM IC-7000 receivers
and LCD backlight bulb burnout in the ICOM and Alinco mobile
transceivers used at the base station. At least the two "base"
receivers use seven-segment fluorescent numeric readouts for
frequency indication and LEDs for other things.

Replacing them is a JOB, especially since I am partially blind and
the local repair place will keep the equipment for a month or two
before they even get around to looking at it. They replaced the
bulbs in the Alinco transceiver and the Kenwood receiver with
"who-knows-what" bulbs that lasted less than 2 years.

A small penlight shined on the LCD display from the outside shows
the readout anyhow.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon


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On 25 Feb 2004 14:53:17 -0800, Mark Keith wrote:

They sell a small "grain of wheat" type bulb that could be made to
work. Look for the one that draws 25 ma. One problem is the original
bulbs don't use wire leads per say. The short leads from the original
bulbs are soldered directly to the board. So you might have to
slightly modify the mounting. There are 4 bulbs total. Overall, it
might be better to order the yaesu bulbs, if you want it to look
original. The original bulbs have an orange shell. To extend bulb
life, don't turn the display brightness all the way up on the new
bulbs. MK


After 8-10 years of 24/7 use even at the "dim" setting, I've had
meter bulb burnout in my Kenwood R-5000 and ICOM IC-7000 receivers
and LCD backlight bulb burnout in the ICOM and Alinco mobile
transceivers used at the base station. At least the two "base"
receivers use seven-segment fluorescent numeric readouts for
frequency indication and LEDs for other things.

Replacing them is a JOB, especially since I am partially blind and
the local repair place will keep the equipment for a month or two
before they even get around to looking at it. They replaced the
bulbs in the Alinco transceiver and the Kenwood receiver with
"who-knows-what" bulbs that lasted less than 2 years.

A small penlight shined on the LCD display from the outside shows
the readout anyhow.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon




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Old February 26th 04, 01:55 PM
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"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with.

any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of

a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great.

I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin

Dustin,

I had several of the panel bulbs burn out on my FT-4700RH - the FT2500M
may/may not use the same configuration.

They were small "grain of wheat" bulbs with wire leads that were enclosed in
orange "rubbery" covers (a bit hard to get off, but doable), were inserted
into
holes in the pcb facing the front of the radio, and had the leads trimmed
short
and soldered to pads on the pcb (not soldered through holes, just bent over
and soldered to pads).

I used RadioShack SKU# 272-1092 their "#7219 Micro Lamp" which is
rated at 12V 60 mA ... since the FT-4700RH runs the lamps from a series
pass transistor from a 9VDC, you don't get full brightness from the bulbs,
but it seems adequate in the brightest setting of the radio's control. The
dim mode is dimmer, of course, but that's what you want in a situation where
you're trying not to ruin your night vision.

Again, these bulbs may/may not fit the FT2500M, but you can remove the dead
bulbs and take them to R/S for a comparison.

As I said, removing/replacing the orange rubber "boots" is a bit tedious ...
I used
a small, almost needle-pointed set of tweezers to get under the edge at the
base of
the old bulb and worked it around the circumference to help relieve the
friction as
I gently pulled on the closed end of the boot. Take care not to
puncture/tear the
boots. Putting them back on was sort of condom-like - basically roll them
on.

Good luck.

73,
Carl - wk3c

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"Dustin" wrote in message
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Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with.

any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of

a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great.

I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin

Dustin,

I had several of the panel bulbs burn out on my FT-4700RH - the FT2500M
may/may not use the same configuration.

They were small "grain of wheat" bulbs with wire leads that were enclosed in
orange "rubbery" covers (a bit hard to get off, but doable), were inserted
into
holes in the pcb facing the front of the radio, and had the leads trimmed
short
and soldered to pads on the pcb (not soldered through holes, just bent over
and soldered to pads).

I used RadioShack SKU# 272-1092 their "#7219 Micro Lamp" which is
rated at 12V 60 mA ... since the FT-4700RH runs the lamps from a series
pass transistor from a 9VDC, you don't get full brightness from the bulbs,
but it seems adequate in the brightest setting of the radio's control. The
dim mode is dimmer, of course, but that's what you want in a situation where
you're trying not to ruin your night vision.

Again, these bulbs may/may not fit the FT2500M, but you can remove the dead
bulbs and take them to R/S for a comparison.

As I said, removing/replacing the orange rubber "boots" is a bit tedious ...
I used
a small, almost needle-pointed set of tweezers to get under the edge at the
base of
the old bulb and worked it around the circumference to help relieve the
friction as
I gently pulled on the closed end of the boot. Take care not to
puncture/tear the
boots. Putting them back on was sort of condom-like - basically roll them
on.

Good luck.

73,
Carl - wk3c

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Old February 27th 04, 03:24 AM
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"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ...
"Dustin" wrote in message
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Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with.

any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of

a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great.

I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin

Dustin,

I had several of the panel bulbs burn out on my FT-4700RH - the FT2500M
may/may not use the same configuration.

They were small "grain of wheat" bulbs with wire leads that were enclosed in
orange "rubbery" covers (a bit hard to get off, but doable), were inserted
into
holes in the pcb facing the front of the radio, and had the leads trimmed
short
and soldered to pads on the pcb (not soldered through holes, just bent over
and soldered to pads).

I used RadioShack SKU# 272-1092 their "#7219 Micro Lamp" which is
rated at 12V 60 mA ... since the FT-4700RH runs the lamps from a series
pass transistor from a 9VDC, you don't get full brightness from the bulbs,
but it seems adequate in the brightest setting of the radio's control. The
dim mode is dimmer, of course, but that's what you want in a situation where
you're trying not to ruin your night vision.

Again, these bulbs may/may not fit the FT2500M, but you can remove the dead
bulbs and take them to R/S for a comparison.

As I said, removing/replacing the orange rubber "boots" is a bit tedious ...
I used
a small, almost needle-pointed set of tweezers to get under the edge at the
base of
the old bulb and worked it around the circumference to help relieve the
friction as
I gently pulled on the closed end of the boot. Take care not to
puncture/tear the
boots. Putting them back on was sort of condom-like - basically roll them
on.

Good luck.

73,
Carl - wk3c


One option I didn't think of at the time...White LED's. I think if I
ever have to do this again, I'm going to switch to the white leds.
They last nearly forever according to the hype. My 706mk2g uses white
led's. Or pretty sure anyway...MK
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"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ...
"Dustin" wrote in message
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Hello, I have a Yaesu ft2500m radio. The bulbs for the display have burned
out. I have read that other people with the same radio have had the same
problem and was wondering if anyone has replaced the bulbs with anything
different then the factory bulbs? if so what did they replace them with.

any
part numbers would be great.. also if anyone can give me a part number of

a
bulb through radio shack or an electronics store like that would be great.

I
would like to replace them. Thank you very much.

Dustin

Dustin,

I had several of the panel bulbs burn out on my FT-4700RH - the FT2500M
may/may not use the same configuration.

They were small "grain of wheat" bulbs with wire leads that were enclosed in
orange "rubbery" covers (a bit hard to get off, but doable), were inserted
into
holes in the pcb facing the front of the radio, and had the leads trimmed
short
and soldered to pads on the pcb (not soldered through holes, just bent over
and soldered to pads).

I used RadioShack SKU# 272-1092 their "#7219 Micro Lamp" which is
rated at 12V 60 mA ... since the FT-4700RH runs the lamps from a series
pass transistor from a 9VDC, you don't get full brightness from the bulbs,
but it seems adequate in the brightest setting of the radio's control. The
dim mode is dimmer, of course, but that's what you want in a situation where
you're trying not to ruin your night vision.

Again, these bulbs may/may not fit the FT2500M, but you can remove the dead
bulbs and take them to R/S for a comparison.

As I said, removing/replacing the orange rubber "boots" is a bit tedious ...
I used
a small, almost needle-pointed set of tweezers to get under the edge at the
base of
the old bulb and worked it around the circumference to help relieve the
friction as
I gently pulled on the closed end of the boot. Take care not to
puncture/tear the
boots. Putting them back on was sort of condom-like - basically roll them
on.

Good luck.

73,
Carl - wk3c


One option I didn't think of at the time...White LED's. I think if I
ever have to do this again, I'm going to switch to the white leds.
They last nearly forever according to the hype. My 706mk2g uses white
led's. Or pretty sure anyway...MK
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One option I didn't think of at the time...White LED's. I think if I
ever have to do this again, I'm going to switch to the white leds.
They last nearly forever according to the hype. My 706mk2g uses white
led's. Or pretty sure anyway...MK


Mark,

You'd have to do two things ...
first find white LEDs that would fit in the orange rubber "boots" (and the
holes in the PCB),
second, you'd probably have to change the (low resistance) series SMT
resistors on the PCB
for higher value ones (unless you found white LEDs that fit AND had
appropriate valued internal
current-limiting resistors ...

73,
Carl - wk3c

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