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![]() Regarding people being able to eavesdrop on baby monitors and cordless phones... I'm sure this is true for the baby monitors and older phones. But aren't the newer digital and spread-spectrum cordless phones at least much harder, if not impossible, to eavesdrop on? I'm sure with the right amount of knowledge, computer equipment, and decoders it could be done, but your average scanner junkie isn't going to go to that much trouble. Am I wrong? Jay N0TIB ----- |
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JayV wrote:
Regarding people being able to eavesdrop on baby monitors and cordless phones... I'm sure this is true for the baby monitors and older phones. But aren't the newer digital and spread-spectrum cordless phones at least much harder, if not impossible, to eavesdrop on? I'm sure with the right amount of knowledge, computer equipment, and decoders it could be done, but your average scanner junkie isn't going to go to that much trouble. Am I wrong? For interception and decoding of spread spectrum signals, you need to know the method (FH, direct sequence, etc.), the hop pattern or spreading polynomial, the current point in the hop or spreading sequence, and so on. None of this is trivial, but enough patience will yield some or all of it. The hardest part, of course, is determining _how_ the freq. hopping or the spreading is being done, i.e., the pattern or polynomial and the current point. It's really a problem in modern cryptography, which can be made easier if the system (e.g., phone manufacturer) is known, since you can buy one and scope out the interesting stuff, like the FH pattern or spreading sequence. If the spreading sequence is generated by an LFSR and you have more than 2*length_of_LFSR consecutive bits of the spreading sequence, it is a "trivial" exercise in linear algebra to recover the tap sequence of the LFSR and build a simulator. From there you try to determine how the LFSR is initialized for a phone call, and once you have that you're home free. -- Mike Andrews Tired old sysadmin |
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JayV wrote:
Regarding people being able to eavesdrop on baby monitors and cordless phones... I'm sure this is true for the baby monitors and older phones. But aren't the newer digital and spread-spectrum cordless phones at least much harder, if not impossible, to eavesdrop on? I'm sure with the right amount of knowledge, computer equipment, and decoders it could be done, but your average scanner junkie isn't going to go to that much trouble. Am I wrong? For interception and decoding of spread spectrum signals, you need to know the method (FH, direct sequence, etc.), the hop pattern or spreading polynomial, the current point in the hop or spreading sequence, and so on. None of this is trivial, but enough patience will yield some or all of it. The hardest part, of course, is determining _how_ the freq. hopping or the spreading is being done, i.e., the pattern or polynomial and the current point. It's really a problem in modern cryptography, which can be made easier if the system (e.g., phone manufacturer) is known, since you can buy one and scope out the interesting stuff, like the FH pattern or spreading sequence. If the spreading sequence is generated by an LFSR and you have more than 2*length_of_LFSR consecutive bits of the spreading sequence, it is a "trivial" exercise in linear algebra to recover the tap sequence of the LFSR and build a simulator. From there you try to determine how the LFSR is initialized for a phone call, and once you have that you're home free. -- Mike Andrews Tired old sysadmin |
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