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Old April 22nd 04, 10:02 PM
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I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I happen to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with RTV.
2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do). There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).
3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use a
bunch of RTV.

His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving parts,
too.


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Old April 23rd 04, 12:58 AM
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Had the same problem with my Taurus...I said "forget it" and went along the
fender, and in the door...near, but not next to the door hinges.
Also did the same method on my current Olds Intrigue.
....Dave

"JLB" wrote in message
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I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford

Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power

cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I happen

to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly

helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to

grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the

edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with RTV.
2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do).

There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).
3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use a
bunch of RTV.

His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving

parts,
too.


--
Jim
N8EE

to email directly, send to my call sign at arrl dot net





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Old April 23rd 04, 12:58 AM
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Had the same problem with my Taurus...I said "forget it" and went along the
fender, and in the door...near, but not next to the door hinges.
Also did the same method on my current Olds Intrigue.
....Dave

"JLB" wrote in message
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I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford

Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power

cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I happen

to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly

helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to

grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the

edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with RTV.
2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do).

There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).
3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use a
bunch of RTV.

His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving

parts,
too.


--
Jim
N8EE

to email directly, send to my call sign at arrl dot net





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Old April 23rd 04, 02:45 AM
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JLB wrote:
I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I happen to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with RTV.


The thing I don't like about this method is it puts your primary heavy
current wire (which I would hope would be fused), in direct contact with
a metalic edge. After awhile, with road vibration, the insulation will
wear through to the wire and short out.


2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do). There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).


This would be a good choice if the wire routing would be away from hot
manifolds, etc. I also like to use some wire loom when routing my
wiring. This give it added protection.


3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use a
bunch of RTV.


I have done this a few times and again, as long as you stay away from
hot manifolds, moving parts, etc., its perfectly fine.



His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving parts,
too.


Andy
WD4KDN

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.

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JLB wrote:
I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I happen to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with RTV.


The thing I don't like about this method is it puts your primary heavy
current wire (which I would hope would be fused), in direct contact with
a metalic edge. After awhile, with road vibration, the insulation will
wear through to the wire and short out.


2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do). There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).


This would be a good choice if the wire routing would be away from hot
manifolds, etc. I also like to use some wire loom when routing my
wiring. This give it added protection.


3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use a
bunch of RTV.


I have done this a few times and again, as long as you stay away from
hot manifolds, moving parts, etc., its perfectly fine.



His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving parts,
too.


Andy
WD4KDN

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.



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Well, he also mentioned the possibility of poking a hole in the steering
column boot. That may not be too bad, as there seems to be a lot of room
there.

--
Jim
N8EE

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"Nitespark" wrote in message
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JLB wrote:
I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford

Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power

cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The

problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are

no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I

happen to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly

helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one

of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to

grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their

dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the

edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with

RTV.

The thing I don't like about this method is it puts your primary heavy
current wire (which I would hope would be fused), in direct contact with
a metalic edge. After awhile, with road vibration, the insulation will
wear through to the wire and short out.


2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do).

There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio

antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).


This would be a good choice if the wire routing would be away from hot
manifolds, etc. I also like to use some wire loom when routing my
wiring. This give it added protection.


3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use

a
bunch of RTV.


I have done this a few times and again, as long as you stay away from
hot manifolds, moving parts, etc., its perfectly fine.



His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving

parts,
too.


Andy
WD4KDN

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.




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Well, he also mentioned the possibility of poking a hole in the steering
column boot. That may not be too bad, as there seems to be a lot of room
there.

--
Jim
N8EE

to email directly, send to my call sign at arrl dot net
"Nitespark" wrote in message
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JLB wrote:
I am in the process of mounting my old Yaesu FT-4700 in my 2000 Ford

Taurus
station wagon. The biggest problem encountered is running the power

cable.
As many others do, I prefer running directly to the battery. The

problem
with the Taurus, as with many other recent vehicles, is that there are

no
spare holes in the firewall---at least not that I can find.

So, I went this morning and talked to a local Ford salesman that I

happen to
know personally (of course buying our last 4 cars from him certainly

helps)
and asked him how to do it. He didn't know, but took me to talk to one

of
their mechanics (you've seen the type---middle age, hair starting to

grey,
grease on shirt---the kind thats been working on cars since he was 15).
Evidently this guy also does radio installations for some of their

dealer
vehicles.

The grass roots, doen in the trenches answer is this:

1. Locate the rubber boot around the steering column, here it goes
through the firewall. Using a screw driver or similar tool lift up the

edge
of the rubber boot and shove your cable through. Seal around it with

RTV.

The thing I don't like about this method is it puts your primary heavy
current wire (which I would hope would be fused), in direct contact with
a metalic edge. After awhile, with road vibration, the insulation will
wear through to the wire and short out.


2. Remove the glove box (he assured me that this is easy to do).

There
is an unused grommet behind it, left over from when the car radio

antenna
was mounted up front (at least on the Taurus).


This would be a good choice if the wire routing would be away from hot
manifolds, etc. I also like to use some wire loom when routing my
wiring. This give it added protection.


3. Drill a hole in the firewall and mount your own grommet. Or use

a
bunch of RTV.


I have done this a few times and again, as long as you stay away from
hot manifolds, moving parts, etc., its perfectly fine.



His only other comment was to stay away from the exhaust manifold, as it
would melt the insulation. I might also add to stay away from moving

parts,
too.


Andy
WD4KDN

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.




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JLB wrote:

Well, he also mentioned the possibility of poking a hole in the steering
column boot. That may not be too bad, as there seems to be a lot of room
there.


I have done that and that is not a bad method as long as you don't get
too close to the steering column or the other edge. When I used that
method it is, "inspect, measure, reinspect, remeasure, re-reinspect,
re-remeasure" to make certain I am not getting into anything on the
other side of the bushing or getting too close to the column or the
firewall.

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.

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JLB wrote:

Well, he also mentioned the possibility of poking a hole in the steering
column boot. That may not be too bad, as there seems to be a lot of room
there.


I have done that and that is not a bad method as long as you don't get
too close to the steering column or the other edge. When I used that
method it is, "inspect, measure, reinspect, remeasure, re-reinspect,
re-remeasure" to make certain I am not getting into anything on the
other side of the bushing or getting too close to the column or the
firewall.

--
One lawyer can steal more than a hundred men with guns.

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Old April 23rd 04, 03:00 PM
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Hi,

Good info, just like to add this tip:

Most cars the hood release cable runs past the battery on the way to the
hood latch up front.

You can run your cables along the same route, throught the firewall
with the hood release cable.

73



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