Heard the Dingotel.com 's new 2 way product will revolutionize voip
market .. if anybody used it.. let me know its performance..

In article ,
Leo wrote:

Heard the Dingotel.com 's new 2 way product will revolutionize voip
market .. if anybody used it.. let me know its performance..

I question "revolutionize". It looks as if they're taking some fairly
standard VoIP capabilities, and providing them as shrink-wrap hardware
and software, with some additional value-adds (e.g. PSTN access).

I see some issues in their product which may have results which are
.... well, "interesting" is perhaps the best way to put it. They
appear to be allowing the user to initiate outbound VoIP calls via
radios such as FRS, using voice recognition rather than DTMF (natural
enough since most such radios don't have DTMF pads). Security is
likely to be an issue, both in re initiating calls (do you really want
anyone with an FRS radio in your neighborhood to be able to call
people in your phonebook if they can fake your voice well enough), and
in privacy. Calls being relayed via FRS or other two-way radios are
not secure, and not protected by the statutes which cover cellular
phone calls.

They do acknowledge in the FAQ that you can't use the two-way radio
interface to call out to the PSTN, but this doesn't jibe well with the
statement on their home page that "DingoTel provides low long distance
rates to PSTN phones worldwide, and free calls to any DingoTel
member." My guess is that PSTN access is available only to those who
are using the hard-wired (PC headset) version of DingoTel, and not to
people using a two-way radio.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

In article ,
Leo wrote:

Heard the Dingotel.com 's new 2 way product will revolutionize voip
market .. if anybody used it.. let me know its performance..

I question "revolutionize". It looks as if they're taking some fairly
standard VoIP capabilities, and providing them as shrink-wrap hardware
and software, with some additional value-adds (e.g. PSTN access).

I see some issues in their product which may have results which are
.... well, "interesting" is perhaps the best way to put it. They
appear to be allowing the user to initiate outbound VoIP calls via
radios such as FRS, using voice recognition rather than DTMF (natural
enough since most such radios don't have DTMF pads). Security is
likely to be an issue, both in re initiating calls (do you really want
anyone with an FRS radio in your neighborhood to be able to call
people in your phonebook if they can fake your voice well enough), and
in privacy. Calls being relayed via FRS or other two-way radios are
not secure, and not protected by the statutes which cover cellular
phone calls.

They do acknowledge in the FAQ that you can't use the two-way radio
interface to call out to the PSTN, but this doesn't jibe well with the
statement on their home page that "DingoTel provides low long distance
rates to PSTN phones worldwide, and free calls to any DingoTel
member." My guess is that PSTN access is available only to those who
are using the hard-wired (PC headset) version of DingoTel, and not to
people using a two-way radio.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

In article ,
Leo wrote:

Heard the Dingotel.com 's new 2 way product will revolutionize voip
market .. if anybody used it.. let me know its performance..

I question "revolutionize". It looks as if they're taking some fairly
standard VoIP capabilities, and providing them as shrink-wrap hardware
and software, with some additional value-adds (e.g. PSTN access).

I see some issues in their product which may have results which are
.... well, "interesting" is perhaps the best way to put it. They
appear to be allowing the user to initiate outbound VoIP calls via
radios such as FRS, using voice recognition rather than DTMF (natural
enough since most such radios don't have DTMF pads). Security is
likely to be an issue, both in re initiating calls (do you really want
anyone with an FRS radio in your neighborhood to be able to call
people in your phonebook if they can fake your voice well enough), and
in privacy. Calls being relayed via FRS or other two-way radios are
not secure, and not protected by the statutes which cover cellular
phone calls.

They do acknowledge in the FAQ that you can't use the two-way radio
interface to call out to the PSTN, but this doesn't jibe well with the
statement on their home page that "DingoTel provides low long distance
rates to PSTN phones worldwide, and free calls to any DingoTel
member." My guess is that PSTN access is available only to those who
are using the hard-wired (PC headset) version of DingoTel, and not to
people using a two-way radio.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

if anybody used it.. let me know its performance

Leo-

Judging by the way you phrased your post, I suspect you are a salesman for
Dingotel!

Therefore, you probably don't want to hear that a two-way radio version of VOIP
can be implemented without any such product. It is commonly done using
software called "EchoLink", with your computer's built-in sound capability.

Check out http://www.echolink.org/. Software can be downloaded for free, and
is available for both Windows and Macintosh computers, and probably others.

73, Fred, K4DII

if anybody used it.. let me know its performance

Leo-

Judging by the way you phrased your post, I suspect you are a salesman for
Dingotel!

Therefore, you probably don't want to hear that a two-way radio version of VOIP
can be implemented without any such product. It is commonly done using
software called "EchoLink", with your computer's built-in sound capability.

Check out http://www.echolink.org/. Software can be downloaded for free, and
is available for both Windows and Macintosh computers, and probably others.

73, Fred, K4DII

if anybody used it.. let me know its performance

Leo-

Judging by the way you phrased your post, I suspect you are a salesman for
Dingotel!

Therefore, you probably don't want to hear that a two-way radio version of VOIP
can be implemented without any such product. It is commonly done using
software called "EchoLink", with your computer's built-in sound capability.

Check out http://www.echolink.org/. Software can be downloaded for free, and
is available for both Windows and Macintosh computers, and probably others.

73, Fred, K4DII