In article .net,
L. wrote:

| That last part kills me... Of course the computer couldn't tell them
| what is compatible or not, it isn't taught electronics knowledge -
| nor programmed with subs in "MOST" cases. They "may" have subs for
| some things, but not for components like that. What an assinine
| answer.

Well, it's the best answer the guy could give. It's certainly better
to say `I don't know' then to guess (unless it's an educated guess, in
which case it's ok as long as you make it clear that this `answer' is
an educated guess.)

| As I said, don't count on them to help. Most don't know their ass
| from a hole in the ground. They wouldn't know a resistor from a
| Diode to start with, so they sure in hell couldn't help with a
| Sub. There are some stores which have some who know - but not
| many. Of the 5 stores I've been to and all their workers, I've only
| found 3 people who knew anything about electronics.

The salesmen at RS are salesmen. If they pick up anything about
electronics, it's a bonus, but ultimately their job is sales, not
electronics. I'll bet most of RS's profits come from cell phones now
-- the rack of electrical components is probably still there only
because it's always been there. And maybe it's mere presence makes
them seem more knowledgable about cell phones and monster cables.

And if the salesman did end up learning a lot about electronics, he'd
get another job that actually put that knowledge to use. Wouldn't
you?

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

| You can't possibly have answers when the majority of your employees
| aren't electronically inclined.

Sure you can. It's just that the electronics questions are rare --
most of their questions are about cell phones, or about what kind of
cable can I connect X to Y with ...

| I don't get asked too often about the cell phone. Of course, I usually have
| mine on my belt in open view. I do it on purpose - just so I WON'T hear it.

They ask me every time. Probably because I only buy their clearance
stuff and an occasional electronic component.

--
Doug McLaren,
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." --Wolfgang Pauli

In article .net,
L. wrote:

| That last part kills me... Of course the computer couldn't tell them
| what is compatible or not, it isn't taught electronics knowledge -
| nor programmed with subs in "MOST" cases. They "may" have subs for
| some things, but not for components like that. What an assinine
| answer.

Well, it's the best answer the guy could give. It's certainly better
to say `I don't know' then to guess (unless it's an educated guess, in
which case it's ok as long as you make it clear that this `answer' is
an educated guess.)

| As I said, don't count on them to help. Most don't know their ass
| from a hole in the ground. They wouldn't know a resistor from a
| Diode to start with, so they sure in hell couldn't help with a
| Sub. There are some stores which have some who know - but not
| many. Of the 5 stores I've been to and all their workers, I've only
| found 3 people who knew anything about electronics.

The salesmen at RS are salesmen. If they pick up anything about
electronics, it's a bonus, but ultimately their job is sales, not
electronics. I'll bet most of RS's profits come from cell phones now
-- the rack of electrical components is probably still there only
because it's always been there. And maybe it's mere presence makes
them seem more knowledgable about cell phones and monster cables.

And if the salesman did end up learning a lot about electronics, he'd
get another job that actually put that knowledge to use. Wouldn't
you?

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

| You can't possibly have answers when the majority of your employees
| aren't electronically inclined.

Sure you can. It's just that the electronics questions are rare --
most of their questions are about cell phones, or about what kind of
cable can I connect X to Y with ...

| I don't get asked too often about the cell phone. Of course, I usually have
| mine on my belt in open view. I do it on purpose - just so I WON'T hear it.

They ask me every time. Probably because I only buy their clearance
stuff and an occasional electronic component.

--
Doug McLaren,
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." --Wolfgang Pauli

Doug McLaren ) writes:

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

I've always taken that slogan to be less literal.

Question:"How can I save a large program, it won't fit on a floppy disc?"
Answer:"You can buy one of these CDRW drives and put it in your computer."

Question: "How can I communicate with my family when we are in a crowd?"
Answer: "There are various options. You can buy one of these CB sets, or you
can buy one of these FRS sets, or there are allways cellphones."

In other words, the questions will be about the products, or useage, and
the answers are the products to solve those questions.

It is just a marketing slogan. And for most of the population,
those are the answers they want.


Michael VE2BVW

Doug McLaren ) writes:

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

I've always taken that slogan to be less literal.

Question:"How can I save a large program, it won't fit on a floppy disc?"
Answer:"You can buy one of these CDRW drives and put it in your computer."

Question: "How can I communicate with my family when we are in a crowd?"
Answer: "There are various options. You can buy one of these CB sets, or you
can buy one of these FRS sets, or there are allways cellphones."

In other words, the questions will be about the products, or useage, and
the answers are the products to solve those questions.

It is just a marketing slogan. And for most of the population,
those are the answers they want.


Michael VE2BVW

Doug McLaren ) writes:

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

I've always taken that slogan to be less literal.

Question:"How can I save a large program, it won't fit on a floppy disc?"
Answer:"You can buy one of these CDRW drives and put it in your computer."

Question: "How can I communicate with my family when we are in a crowd?"
Answer: "There are various options. You can buy one of these CB sets, or you
can buy one of these FRS sets, or there are allways cellphones."

In other words, the questions will be about the products, or useage, and
the answers are the products to solve those questions.

It is just a marketing slogan. And for most of the population,
those are the answers they want.


Michael VE2BVW

"Doug McLaren" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
L. wrote:

| That last part kills me... Of course the computer couldn't tell them
| what is compatible or not, it isn't taught electronics knowledge -
| nor programmed with subs in "MOST" cases. They "may" have subs for
| some things, but not for components like that. What an assinine
| answer.

Well, it's the best answer the guy could give. It's certainly better
to say `I don't know' then to guess (unless it's an educated guess, in
which case it's ok as long as you make it clear that this `answer' is
an educated guess.)


same thing as "I don't know" cause most of them say that straight out -
anyway!

| As I said, don't count on them to help. Most don't know their ass
| from a hole in the ground. They wouldn't know a resistor from a
| Diode to start with, so they sure in hell couldn't help with a
| Sub. There are some stores which have some who know - but not
| many. Of the 5 stores I've been to and all their workers, I've only
| found 3 people who knew anything about electronics.

The salesmen at RS are salesmen. If they pick up anything about
electronics, it's a bonus, but ultimately their job is sales, not
electronics. I'll bet most of RS's profits come from cell phones now
-- the rack of electrical components is probably still there only
because it's always been there. And maybe it's mere presence makes
them seem more knowledgable about cell phones and monster cables.

And if the salesman did end up learning a lot about electronics, he'd
get another job that actually put that knowledge to use. Wouldn't
you?


I think I pretty much said the same thing! They'd never earn the money
they're worth if they had such an education.

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

| You can't possibly have answers when the majority of your employees
| aren't electronically inclined.

Sure you can. It's just that the electronics questions are rare --
most of their questions are about cell phones, or about what kind of
cable can I connect X to Y with ...

| I don't get asked too often about the cell phone. Of course, I usually
have
| mine on my belt in open view. I do it on purpose - just so I WON'T hear
it.

They ask me every time. Probably because I only buy their clearance
stuff and an occasional electronic component.

--
Doug McLaren,
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." --Wolfgang Pauli

Slogans can bring in business or chase away business. It helps if it
"applies" to the situation. IN this case, it doesn't.
Bad judgment on their behalf. Bad advertising, because they're advertising
service that they can't provide in many respects.
Yes, they can sell Cell Phones and so on, but if someone goes in with an
"ELECTRONICS" question which in most cases they're not qualified to answer
then HOW are they able to carry out the "You've got questions, we've got
answers"?
It just doesn't wash in the big picture.

Electronics "components" questions may be rare, but the rest is not.......
I'm not going to drag it out any more.

To me, it doesn't matter, I'm versed enough to shop for myself, but I've
seen many be given very poor advice. THAT is what burns me. I'm not going to
stick my nose in, that is up to them to clear up - not me. I'm not paid to
sell their products.

I buy parts in there also, what does that have to do with asking me every
trip for a cell phone? I respectfully disagree. That makes no sense. IF they
see you WITH a phone, then they should not bother - regardless if you're
there once a week or once a month. By now, most who shop there know they can
get a phone without having to have one shoved up your ass.

L.

"Doug McLaren" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
L. wrote:

| That last part kills me... Of course the computer couldn't tell them
| what is compatible or not, it isn't taught electronics knowledge -
| nor programmed with subs in "MOST" cases. They "may" have subs for
| some things, but not for components like that. What an assinine
| answer.

Well, it's the best answer the guy could give. It's certainly better
to say `I don't know' then to guess (unless it's an educated guess, in
which case it's ok as long as you make it clear that this `answer' is
an educated guess.)


same thing as "I don't know" cause most of them say that straight out -
anyway!

| As I said, don't count on them to help. Most don't know their ass
| from a hole in the ground. They wouldn't know a resistor from a
| Diode to start with, so they sure in hell couldn't help with a
| Sub. There are some stores which have some who know - but not
| many. Of the 5 stores I've been to and all their workers, I've only
| found 3 people who knew anything about electronics.

The salesmen at RS are salesmen. If they pick up anything about
electronics, it's a bonus, but ultimately their job is sales, not
electronics. I'll bet most of RS's profits come from cell phones now
-- the rack of electrical components is probably still there only
because it's always been there. And maybe it's mere presence makes
them seem more knowledgable about cell phones and monster cables.

And if the salesman did end up learning a lot about electronics, he'd
get another job that actually put that knowledge to use. Wouldn't
you?


I think I pretty much said the same thing! They'd never earn the money
they're worth if they had such an education.

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

| You can't possibly have answers when the majority of your employees
| aren't electronically inclined.

Sure you can. It's just that the electronics questions are rare --
most of their questions are about cell phones, or about what kind of
cable can I connect X to Y with ...

| I don't get asked too often about the cell phone. Of course, I usually
have
| mine on my belt in open view. I do it on purpose - just so I WON'T hear
it.

They ask me every time. Probably because I only buy their clearance
stuff and an occasional electronic component.

--
Doug McLaren,
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." --Wolfgang Pauli

Slogans can bring in business or chase away business. It helps if it
"applies" to the situation. IN this case, it doesn't.
Bad judgment on their behalf. Bad advertising, because they're advertising
service that they can't provide in many respects.
Yes, they can sell Cell Phones and so on, but if someone goes in with an
"ELECTRONICS" question which in most cases they're not qualified to answer
then HOW are they able to carry out the "You've got questions, we've got
answers"?
It just doesn't wash in the big picture.

Electronics "components" questions may be rare, but the rest is not.......
I'm not going to drag it out any more.

To me, it doesn't matter, I'm versed enough to shop for myself, but I've
seen many be given very poor advice. THAT is what burns me. I'm not going to
stick my nose in, that is up to them to clear up - not me. I'm not paid to
sell their products.

I buy parts in there also, what does that have to do with asking me every
trip for a cell phone? I respectfully disagree. That makes no sense. IF they
see you WITH a phone, then they should not bother - regardless if you're
there once a week or once a month. By now, most who shop there know they can
get a phone without having to have one shoved up your ass.

L.

"Doug McLaren" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
L. wrote:

| That last part kills me... Of course the computer couldn't tell them
| what is compatible or not, it isn't taught electronics knowledge -
| nor programmed with subs in "MOST" cases. They "may" have subs for
| some things, but not for components like that. What an assinine
| answer.

Well, it's the best answer the guy could give. It's certainly better
to say `I don't know' then to guess (unless it's an educated guess, in
which case it's ok as long as you make it clear that this `answer' is
an educated guess.)


same thing as "I don't know" cause most of them say that straight out -
anyway!

| As I said, don't count on them to help. Most don't know their ass
| from a hole in the ground. They wouldn't know a resistor from a
| Diode to start with, so they sure in hell couldn't help with a
| Sub. There are some stores which have some who know - but not
| many. Of the 5 stores I've been to and all their workers, I've only
| found 3 people who knew anything about electronics.

The salesmen at RS are salesmen. If they pick up anything about
electronics, it's a bonus, but ultimately their job is sales, not
electronics. I'll bet most of RS's profits come from cell phones now
-- the rack of electrical components is probably still there only
because it's always been there. And maybe it's mere presence makes
them seem more knowledgable about cell phones and monster cables.

And if the salesman did end up learning a lot about electronics, he'd
get another job that actually put that knowledge to use. Wouldn't
you?


I think I pretty much said the same thing! They'd never earn the money
they're worth if they had such an education.

| Sure makes ya wonder why the Board of Directors allowed them to take
| on the slogan "You've got questions, we've got answers".

If your answer is `where can I get a cell phone?' `does this phone
have a camera?' `can I keep my number?' ... then they've got answers.

And since when are corporate slogans accurate anyways?

| You can't possibly have answers when the majority of your employees
| aren't electronically inclined.

Sure you can. It's just that the electronics questions are rare --
most of their questions are about cell phones, or about what kind of
cable can I connect X to Y with ...

| I don't get asked too often about the cell phone. Of course, I usually
have
| mine on my belt in open view. I do it on purpose - just so I WON'T hear
it.

They ask me every time. Probably because I only buy their clearance
stuff and an occasional electronic component.

--
Doug McLaren,
"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." --Wolfgang Pauli

Slogans can bring in business or chase away business. It helps if it
"applies" to the situation. IN this case, it doesn't.
Bad judgment on their behalf. Bad advertising, because they're advertising
service that they can't provide in many respects.
Yes, they can sell Cell Phones and so on, but if someone goes in with an
"ELECTRONICS" question which in most cases they're not qualified to answer
then HOW are they able to carry out the "You've got questions, we've got
answers"?
It just doesn't wash in the big picture.

Electronics "components" questions may be rare, but the rest is not.......
I'm not going to drag it out any more.

To me, it doesn't matter, I'm versed enough to shop for myself, but I've
seen many be given very poor advice. THAT is what burns me. I'm not going to
stick my nose in, that is up to them to clear up - not me. I'm not paid to
sell their products.

I buy parts in there also, what does that have to do with asking me every
trip for a cell phone? I respectfully disagree. That makes no sense. IF they
see you WITH a phone, then they should not bother - regardless if you're
there once a week or once a month. By now, most who shop there know they can
get a phone without having to have one shoved up your ass.

L.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:17:49 -0500, "Andy in NJ" SHORECOGS at COMCAST
DOT NET wrote:

Try www.mouser.com or call 'em at 800-346-6873. They list all kinds of
illumination devices -- check their product index under
"illumination".

bob
k5qwg

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:17:49 -0500, "Andy in NJ" SHORECOGS at COMCAST
DOT NET wrote:

Try www.mouser.com or call 'em at 800-346-6873. They list all kinds of
illumination devices -- check their product index under
"illumination".

bob
k5qwg