http://csearch.auctions.yahoo.com/cu...ronics1&acc=us


IS THIS GUY FOR REAL??? YAHOO AUCTIONS, SOUNDS TOOO FISHY

well i hope so i just wone the auction on a yeasu ft1000mp mkv
dutch

Jack O'neill wrote:
http://csearch.auctions.yahoo.com/cu...ronics1&acc=us


IS THIS GUY FOR REAL??? YAHOO AUCTIONS, SOUNDS TOOO FISHY

Keep us posted......

Ken

"dutchman2u" wrote in message
oups.com...
well i hope so i just wone the auction on a yeasu ft1000mp mkv
dutch

Jack O'neill wrote:
http://csearch.auctions.yahoo.com/cu...ronics1&acc=us


IS THIS GUY FOR REAL??? YAHOO AUCTIONS, SOUNDS TOOO FISHY

Please let all of us know if all goes well with this guy and you have
the radio.
Seems to me and others that this guy is selling these high end radios
WAY to cheap.
Red flags are popping up all over the place!
I really hope he is on the up and up.
AND I hope you can pay with Paypal. At least
you will be able to get your money back.
All of his auctions are over now??
Good luck and let us know.

73
==================

dutchman2u wrote:

well i hope so i just wone the auction on a yeasu ft1000mp mkv
dutch

Jack O'neill wrote:


http://csearch.auctions.yahoo.com/cu...ronics1&acc=us


IS THIS GUY FOR REAL??? YAHOO AUCTIONS, SOUNDS TOOO FISHY

Yes go ahead..



Contact Information


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Dutch ]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Good morning Floyd do you care if i copy and past this email to
another web page ! Ralph



-------Original Message-------



From: Provo, Floyd

Date: 07/20/05 19:56:41

To:

Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Here are some of the emails that I have collected.

I would not send any money another guy emailed and said he sent the
money..dont think he will see it again.

I have more if your interested.



Hi Floyd .. just wonder how that Extreme Electronics deal worked out
... sure sounded fishy to me, and I could not find a store that fit that
merchandise in or around the Belton area.

What happened? Did you get your radio?

73 Mark AA6DX



We agree!



In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:10:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
writes:

I recieved my invoices also.. and I asked if I could pick up my
equipment . with no answer yet..

I dont think that I am going to send $2600. to someone who comunicates
the way they do.






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [mailto Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 11:14 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: Yahoo Auctions

No. We received an invoice and asked to pick up the radio & make
payment. No response.





In a message dated 7/15/2005 7:44:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
writes:

Have you had any luck yet..?




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [mailto Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 11:42 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: Yahoo Auctions

We bought a 756ProIII from extremeelectronics1 on Yahoo auctions and
we're having trouble getting a response.



Did you get your radio?



Lezlea & Michael Barrett / N2LDS & K1ECW

"homeskoolma on Yahoo auctions"



Hello Floyd,

I called and got ahold of tabetha betzner's mother and father,she is
only 19 years old.Her parents know nothing of these items for sale.her
mother states that possibly a neighbor who is reffered to as "a little
loony"may be using her name fradulenly........Gary

"Provo, Floyd" wrote:

I have not heard anything from this guy . I will keep you and several
others that have responeded.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: GARY [mailto Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 8:56 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: icom 756

Hello,

Just wondering what happened on this radio sale.Looks like this jerk
has listed it numerous times for various rediculously cheap prices.I
won't send him anything till I have personal information for him
verified by me.Let me know what the hell is up if you can
please.Thanks.....Gary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Richard Zalewski ]
Sent: Sun 7/17/2005 12:52 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Floyd,



Don't you think it funny that the only positive feedback for our seller
comes from an unrated seller IN THE SAME TOWN? The saga continues.



Dick



----- Original Message -----

From: Provo, Floyd

To:

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:57 AM

Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo








--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ed Hendershaw ]
Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 4:26 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Thanks Again Floyd

This would make the beginning of a good novel let's see how it plays
out.

"Provo, Floyd" wrote:






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: John Miller ]
Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 1:18 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Floyd:



I'm going to share with you a series of emails between
extreemeelectronics and me. See attached exchanges.....but read from
"bottom up".



When I looked up the name Tabetha Betzner in Google, I found her listed
as a 2004 HS graduate in Missouri: The Examiner: Lee's Summit High
School graduates 05/22/04

Also listed as Doing Business As Clear Line Plumbing (shows address):
DBID;CompanyNumb;CompanyName;Address;City;State;Zi p;Phone;Fax ...



Finally, look at the one piece of (+) feedback they have: it comes from
another person in the same city (Kansas City area), who is selling
watches.........not good.



I agree that if you can fly there and pick up the item yourself, it's
worth it. Be careful....you never know what's really going on.



I almost bid on one of these "deals", but held off. I'm an active
eBayer: ID is webaron and my feedback is 352.....100% positives, no
negatives in 6 yrs on eBay. I take buying/selling seriously and that's
why I've been watching this Yahoo seller with interest.



Let me know what you find out, Floyd. Good luck.



Regards,

John Miller, K6MM

San Jose, CA

================================================== =============================================


Hello! Thank you for your email. Of course I understand that anytime
people are doing business over the telephone or internet, it can be
risky. The buyer that we did business with never paid or answered any
emails. He never paid so no, nothing was shipped. My name is Tabetha.
My father actually owned all of these products. We have hundreds and a
list I can send you of all of the items we currently have in stock. He
is ill with prostate cancer. He was able to continue business for about
a year on his own since the illness but has since had a hard time. My
husband and I have been handling everything for him in the past couple
of months. We travel to different states to auctions (live). We mostly
sell and but sometimes buy at the live auctions. Most of the time, if
we get bulk items it is from a business that is going out of business
or that has been seized. We do not just sell ham radios and such. We
have many electronics. We sell laptops in our local newspaper. We don't
sell them online because I have read many forums about people being
burned by trying to buy laptops. No, we have never burned anyone and
no, we do not have the desire to. That is for people who just want to
make some quick money. We know that in the long run, you can make more
money by happy customers telling their friends and also by them
personally coming back to us because there is established trust. Bidpay
is our preferred payment but as you have said, they do not accept
transactions over $1000. We accept money orders, cashiers checks, and
other like payments. Unfortunately, at this time we do not have an
alternative. Our website is currently under construction and once it is
live, we will have our merchant account open in which we will be able
to accept credit cards. You may want to wait until that time or until
we establish more feedback. Thanks!

Tabetha Betzner



John Miller wrote:

Thanks for your quick response, but I'm disappointed that you won't

send me a valid serial number.



Well, we can't use BidPay because they won't accept anything over

$1,000 for a transaction, including shipping. That only leaves money

orders or cashiers checks....which no one is comfortable with.



You seem to have a lot of high quality transceivers for sale at very

low prices. That's obviously highly suspicious. Where are you getting

these radios?



I noticed that at least one bidder whose ID is WA7AAX from Washington

bought several items from you recently. Has he actually paid you and

have you actually shipped them?



If you are legitimate, then you have nothing to hide. If not, then you

are going to certainly attract a lot of attention from folks who have

been burned in the past, and believe me, they will literally hunt you

down.



You don't sign your emails.....what is your name? What is your

telephone number?



You say that no one showed up to pick up the products on Sunday/Monday,


but that you were willing to have them picked up at your location. Do

you think folks are skeptical, and don't want to waste their time?



I'm a serious buyer. I've been on eBay for 6 years. My feedback

rating is 352......100% positive feedback....no negatives. I don't

screw around with buying or selling items on auctions.....I value my

reputation too much.



I'm very interested in the following transceivers:



ICOM 756PRO3

Yaesu 7800

Yaesu FT- 847



What's your best price for each? Convince me to do business with you,

and I'll buy all three.



On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:41 PM, extreme electronics wrote:



Hello! Thanks for your email. We will give the serial number to the

winner. I can give you part of it?? We are in the Kansas City, Mo,

area. We have hundreds of items for sale which includes full rigs,

parts, and accessories both new and used. If you can tell me what you

are looking for, I can check or just email you the list. We made

arrangements for two different customers who won auctions last week to

personally come pick up the products. They set the date for Sunday and

Monday. Neither showed AND neither have contacted us since. We could

have had the two items sold, paid for, and shipped by now. We prefer

to just proceed as outlined in our listings. If you have other

questions or want the list, I will be happy to help you. Thanks!



John Miller wrote:Hi,



Can you tell me the serial number of this radio? Also, where in the US

is it located?



Are there any extras included with it?



Is it possible to pick up personally? Thanks.



John



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On Jul 15, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Provo, Floyd wrote:



Have recieved an invoice for both of my auctions. they are asking me to
send money. which I will not do .

Would like to pick up what I won..

that is what I asked if I could do.

Just dont trust them at this point . plus the deal that I got it would
be worth it for me to fly there and pick it up.



From: John Miller ]

Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 3:29 AM

To: Provo, Floyd

Subject: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Hi Floyd:



Did you ever get in touch with them? I'm curious because of their

highly suspicious auctions of ham radio equipment at low prices on

Yahoo.



Thanks.



John, K6MM




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Yes go ahead..



Contact Information


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Dutch ]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Good morning Floyd do you care if i copy and past this email to
another web page ! Ralph



-------Original Message-------



From: Provo, Floyd

Date: 07/20/05 19:56:41

To:

Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Here are some of the emails that I have collected.

I would not send any money another guy emailed and said he sent the
money..dont think he will see it again.

I have more if your interested.



Hi Floyd .. just wonder how that Extreme Electronics deal worked out
... sure sounded fishy to me, and I could not find a store that fit that
merchandise in or around the Belton area.

What happened? Did you get your radio?

73 Mark AA6DX



We agree!



In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:10:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
writes:

I recieved my invoices also.. and I asked if I could pick up my
equipment . with no answer yet..

I dont think that I am going to send $2600. to someone who comunicates
the way they do.






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [mailto Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 11:14 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: Yahoo Auctions

No. We received an invoice and asked to pick up the radio & make
payment. No response.





In a message dated 7/15/2005 7:44:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
writes:

Have you had any luck yet..?




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [mailto Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 11:42 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: Yahoo Auctions

We bought a 756ProIII from extremeelectronics1 on Yahoo auctions and
we're having trouble getting a response.



Did you get your radio?



Lezlea & Michael Barrett / N2LDS & K1ECW

"homeskoolma on Yahoo auctions"



Hello Floyd,

I called and got ahold of tabetha betzner's mother and father,she is
only 19 years old.Her parents know nothing of these items for sale.her
mother states that possibly a neighbor who is reffered to as "a little
loony"may be using her name fradulenly........Gary

"Provo, Floyd" wrote:

I have not heard anything from this guy . I will keep you and several
others that have responeded.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: GARY [mailto Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 8:56 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: icom 756

Hello,

Just wondering what happened on this radio sale.Looks like this jerk
has listed it numerous times for various rediculously cheap prices.I
won't send him anything till I have personal information for him
verified by me.Let me know what the hell is up if you can
please.Thanks.....Gary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Richard Zalewski ]
Sent: Sun 7/17/2005 12:52 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Floyd,



Don't you think it funny that the only positive feedback for our seller
comes from an unrated seller IN THE SAME TOWN? The saga continues.



Dick



----- Original Message -----

From: Provo, Floyd

To:

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:57 AM

Subject: FW: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo








--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ed Hendershaw ]
Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 4:26 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: FW: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Thanks Again Floyd

This would make the beginning of a good novel let's see how it plays
out.

"Provo, Floyd" wrote:






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: John Miller ]
Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 1:18 PM
To: Provo, Floyd
Subject: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo

Floyd:



I'm going to share with you a series of emails between
extreemeelectronics and me. See attached exchanges.....but read from
"bottom up".



When I looked up the name Tabetha Betzner in Google, I found her listed
as a 2004 HS graduate in Missouri: The Examiner: Lee's Summit High
School graduates 05/22/04

Also listed as Doing Business As Clear Line Plumbing (shows address):
DBID;CompanyNumb;CompanyName;Address;City;State;Zi p;Phone;Fax ...



Finally, look at the one piece of (+) feedback they have: it comes from
another person in the same city (Kansas City area), who is selling
watches.........not good.



I agree that if you can fly there and pick up the item yourself, it's
worth it. Be careful....you never know what's really going on.



I almost bid on one of these "deals", but held off. I'm an active
eBayer: ID is webaron and my feedback is 352.....100% positives, no
negatives in 6 yrs on eBay. I take buying/selling seriously and that's
why I've been watching this Yahoo seller with interest.



Let me know what you find out, Floyd. Good luck.



Regards,

John Miller, K6MM

San Jose, CA

================================================== =============================================


Hello! Thank you for your email. Of course I understand that anytime
people are doing business over the telephone or internet, it can be
risky. The buyer that we did business with never paid or answered any
emails. He never paid so no, nothing was shipped. My name is Tabetha.
My father actually owned all of these products. We have hundreds and a
list I can send you of all of the items we currently have in stock. He
is ill with prostate cancer. He was able to continue business for about
a year on his own since the illness but has since had a hard time. My
husband and I have been handling everything for him in the past couple
of months. We travel to different states to auctions (live). We mostly
sell and but sometimes buy at the live auctions. Most of the time, if
we get bulk items it is from a business that is going out of business
or that has been seized. We do not just sell ham radios and such. We
have many electronics. We sell laptops in our local newspaper. We don't
sell them online because I have read many forums about people being
burned by trying to buy laptops. No, we have never burned anyone and
no, we do not have the desire to. That is for people who just want to
make some quick money. We know that in the long run, you can make more
money by happy customers telling their friends and also by them
personally coming back to us because there is established trust. Bidpay
is our preferred payment but as you have said, they do not accept
transactions over $1000. We accept money orders, cashiers checks, and
other like payments. Unfortunately, at this time we do not have an
alternative. Our website is currently under construction and once it is
live, we will have our merchant account open in which we will be able
to accept credit cards. You may want to wait until that time or until
we establish more feedback. Thanks!

Tabetha Betzner



John Miller wrote:

Thanks for your quick response, but I'm disappointed that you won't

send me a valid serial number.



Well, we can't use BidPay because they won't accept anything over

$1,000 for a transaction, including shipping. That only leaves money

orders or cashiers checks....which no one is comfortable with.



You seem to have a lot of high quality transceivers for sale at very

low prices. That's obviously highly suspicious. Where are you getting

these radios?



I noticed that at least one bidder whose ID is WA7AAX from Washington

bought several items from you recently. Has he actually paid you and

have you actually shipped them?



If you are legitimate, then you have nothing to hide. If not, then you

are going to certainly attract a lot of attention from folks who have

been burned in the past, and believe me, they will literally hunt you

down.



You don't sign your emails.....what is your name? What is your

telephone number?



You say that no one showed up to pick up the products on Sunday/Monday,


but that you were willing to have them picked up at your location. Do

you think folks are skeptical, and don't want to waste their time?



I'm a serious buyer. I've been on eBay for 6 years. My feedback

rating is 352......100% positive feedback....no negatives. I don't

screw around with buying or selling items on auctions.....I value my

reputation too much.



I'm very interested in the following transceivers:



ICOM 756PRO3

Yaesu 7800

Yaesu FT- 847



What's your best price for each? Convince me to do business with you,

and I'll buy all three.



On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:41 PM, extreme electronics wrote:



Hello! Thanks for your email. We will give the serial number to the

winner. I can give you part of it?? We are in the Kansas City, Mo,

area. We have hundreds of items for sale which includes full rigs,

parts, and accessories both new and used. If you can tell me what you

are looking for, I can check or just email you the list. We made

arrangements for two different customers who won auctions last week to

personally come pick up the products. They set the date for Sunday and

Monday. Neither showed AND neither have contacted us since. We could

have had the two items sold, paid for, and shipped by now. We prefer

to just proceed as outlined in our listings. If you have other

questions or want the list, I will be happy to help you. Thanks!



John Miller wrote:Hi,



Can you tell me the serial number of this radio? Also, where in the US

is it located?



Are there any extras included with it?



Is it possible to pick up personally? Thanks.



John



Yahoo! Mail for Mobile

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On Jul 15, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Provo, Floyd wrote:



Have recieved an invoice for both of my auctions. they are asking me to
send money. which I will not do .

Would like to pick up what I won..

that is what I asked if I could do.

Just dont trust them at this point . plus the deal that I got it would
be worth it for me to fly there and pick it up.



From: John Miller ]

Sent: Fri 7/15/2005 3:29 AM

To: Provo, Floyd

Subject: extremeelectronics seller on Yahoo



Hi Floyd:



Did you ever get in touch with them? I'm curious because of their

highly suspicious auctions of ham radio equipment at low prices on

Yahoo.



Thanks.



John, K6MM




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page