ml,

Let me try to clarify this whole thing and perhaps give you the correct
terminology to be better understand and to better explain what you are
asking..

First, whether it is done in what you call a "clone mode" or "by computer",
the radio still has the capability to fill memories via an external (data or
computer) port. If the software writer can find, or figure out the
protocol, he can write what you call a driver to get data into the radio's
memories. You just hook up a computer to the two radio's data connection
when they are "cloning", and look at how the data is sent and duplicate that
protocol in your computer program (driver).

Many radios that have external programming capabilities, have the protocol
either published or hacked by hams (I've done some), so it is on the web
somewhere.

Second, some radios also have the capability of being controlled in a
real-time mode. This is called "CAT", but I don't know what it stands for.
That is, they can be operated fully by the external port. I'll call this
the computer control port. Icom calls their most recent version system
"CI-V".
These radios also usually have memories and also allow loading these
memories (and reading them) through the computer port.

The TMD700 has all this capability, and, yes it is a bit steep at $500, but
is receives from 118 to 1300 MHz and has a TNC and the APRS software. I got
mine used. Unfortunately, I do not have a list of computer controllable,
dual band (2M & 440) radios. The Kenwood tri-band (2M 220, 440) hand held
is such a radio. There are only 1-2 things you can't do from the computer
port.
The 706 family has *SOME* of these capabilities and does include loading
memories with frequency and much real-time control.

I'd try searching on something like: +"Computer control" CAT +"dual band"
ham +"amateur radio" and see what you get. I did a quick look, but there
was lots of noise in the hits (not much good stuff).

I suspect you want to ask is something like this:

"What dual band radios have memory loading capability via computer?"

"What dual band radios have CAT control?" Or "What dual bander has computer
memory loading?"

73, Steve K9DCI






"ml" wrote in message
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greatful for everyone's trying to help out

ok i was told i am using the correct terminology however it's kinda
obscure so not many know about it

and i am not smart enough to describe it better i'll take another stab

when a radio's memory is addressed for programming by a pc, it's
typically done what is know as 'clone mode' an example of this would be
any yaesu 2m radio(best as i know)

contrasted to the tm-700's method of programming via it's programming
port to pc

yeah all radios have software that might accomplish the same thing but
do so via different metods of addressing or accessing the memory

i know of a software developer that writes fantastic software for the
apple he can only modify drivers to work with his program for radio's
that can be programmed via means other than clone mode

unf there is not alot of ham software outthere for mac's and only one
that allows radio memory programming for 2m/440 etc

sooo

the current software has drivers for rigs that are now almost disco, or
kinda a bit expensive tm700 a litte much for me iwas hoping say to get
a tm271 or simular but looking thru the manuals/broshures of some
newer rigs and it dosn't say a thing about it's memory access

if i find such a radio he'll write the drivers for me

hoping that sombody might be able to point me in the right direction


In article ,
Dick LeadWinger wrote:

I guess you are going to have to tell us what kind of programming you
are talking about. When you "clone" memories, you hook two similar
radios together by cable and transfer the data from one to the other.
We are talking about using a computer to transfer the memories, which
has nothing to do with cloning per se. My TM-D700, which I assume is
what you mean by TM-700, is no different from any other radio that is
programmed by computer.

Dick - W6CCD


On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:26:03 GMT, ml wrote:

thanks for the responce and not to sound rude, but i am very aware of
that fact, from the below,

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


if anyone knows i'd really appreciate the help i know some rigs do it
only found the 2 below

tnx


In article ,
"Noon-Air" wrote:

Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet
type
software and a cable that plugs in.