I was wondering if anyone knew of any fairly current 2m or 2/440 rigs
that allow programming access to the memories via means OTHER THAN
'cloaning' method?

for example here are a few that i already know of
tm700 tmv7


i am not sure about the most current rigs seems the web sites of the
manuf don't really say


any help is appreciated

Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet type
software and a cable that plugs in.

"ml" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone knew of any fairly current 2m or 2/440 rigs
that allow programming access to the memories via means OTHER THAN
'cloaning' method?

for example here are a few that i already know of
tm700 tmv7


i am not sure about the most current rigs seems the web sites of the
manuf don't really say


any help is appreciated

thanks for the responce and not to sound rude, but i am very aware of
that fact, from the below,

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


if anyone knows i'd really appreciate the help i know some rigs do it
only found the 2 below

tnx


In article ,
"Noon-Air" wrote:

Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet type
software and a cable that plugs in.

"ml" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone knew of any fairly current 2m or 2/440 rigs
that allow programming access to the memories via means OTHER THAN
'cloaning' method?

for example here are a few that i already know of
tm700 tmv7


i am not sure about the most current rigs seems the web sites of the
manuf don't really say


any help is appreciated

I would think that most modern rigs would allow that. All of my
radios do. I have a Kenwood TH-F6A, TH-D7A, TM-D700A and Icom IC-746.
All are programmable by computer without cloning from another radio.
I wouldn't own a radio today that didn't have that capability.

Dick - W6CCD

On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:24:44 GMT, ml wrote:

I was wondering if anyone knew of any fairly current 2m or 2/440 rigs
that allow programming access to the memories via means OTHER THAN
'cloaning' method?

for example here are a few that i already know of
tm700 tmv7


i am not sure about the most current rigs seems the web sites of the
manuf don't really say


any help is appreciated

I guess you are going to have to tell us what kind of programming you
are talking about. When you "clone" memories, you hook two similar
radios together by cable and transfer the data from one to the other.
We are talking about using a computer to transfer the memories, which
has nothing to do with cloning per se. My TM-D700, which I assume is
what you mean by TM-700, is no different from any other radio that is
programmed by computer.

Dick - W6CCD


On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:26:03 GMT, ml wrote:

thanks for the responce and not to sound rude, but i am very aware of
that fact, from the below,

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


if anyone knows i'd really appreciate the help i know some rigs do it
only found the 2 below

tnx


In article ,
"Noon-Air" wrote:

Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet type
software and a cable that plugs in.

Dot wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:26:03 GMT, ml wrote:

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


Perhaps if you were to define the method of programming we might be able to
help you. "Not cloning" simply isn't enough information...

What are you looking for... DTMF? Over Air? Infra Red? Morse? ... ?????



Welllll, from programming my several radios, most of the software used, does in
fact emulate the cloning of radios, but with a computer on one end...I think, he
is asking for real time control of the radio so the computer takes over the
radio, like on some of the "scanner" programs out there written for the "black
box" scanners, or the "high end" scanners..

Bob N9LVU

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

The Kenwood ts-2000 has commands which allow the reading and writing
of specific memories, direct VFO tuning, and so forth.

It's sorta expensive if used only as a 2m/70cm rig, though.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
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In article ,
Dick LeadWinger wrote:

I would think that most modern rigs would allow that. All of my
radios do. I have a Kenwood TH-F6A, TH-D7A, TM-D700A and Icom IC-746.
All are programmable by computer without cloning from another radio.
I wouldn't own a radio today that didn't have that capability.

Although it's possible to program the memories on many radios using
computer software (and, I agree, it's almost essential in these days
of multiple-hundred-memory radios), the actual _protocol_ used in the
programming of most radios tends to be cloning-based. That is, in
order to update the programming of the radio, you first upload its
entire nonvolatile-memory bank, then update specific portions of it
using PC software, and then download the updated NVRAM image to the
radio.

To the radio, this process looks like a "clone another radio" followed
by a "be cloned" operation. It's relatively slow (takes a minute or
two, plus image-editing time) and is disruptive of the radio's normal
operation.

What I believe that the original poster wants, is a radio which allows
selective memory updating, direct tuning commands, and so forth, via
software control.

I'd suggest checking out the Linux/Unix "hamlib" package, which has
drivers for many of the radios which have such capabilities.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

greatful for everyone's trying to help out

ok i was told i am using the correct terminology however it's kinda
obscure so not many know about it

and i am not smart enough to describe it better i'll take another stab

when a radio's memory is addressed for programming by a pc, it's
typically done what is know as 'clone mode' an example of this would be
any yaesu 2m radio(best as i know)

contrasted to the tm-700's method of programming via it's programming
port to pc

yeah all radios have software that might accomplish the same thing but
do so via different metods of addressing or accessing the memory

i know of a software developer that writes fantastic software for the
apple he can only modify drivers to work with his program for radio's
that can be programmed via means other than clone mode

unf there is not alot of ham software outthere for mac's and only one
that allows radio memory programming for 2m/440 etc

sooo

the current software has drivers for rigs that are now almost disco, or
kinda a bit expensive tm700 a litte much for me iwas hoping say to get
a tm271 or simular but looking thru the manuals/broshures of some
newer rigs and it dosn't say a thing about it's memory access

if i find such a radio he'll write the drivers for me

hoping that sombody might be able to point me in the right direction


In article ,
Dick LeadWinger wrote:

I guess you are going to have to tell us what kind of programming you
are talking about. When you "clone" memories, you hook two similar
radios together by cable and transfer the data from one to the other.
We are talking about using a computer to transfer the memories, which
has nothing to do with cloning per se. My TM-D700, which I assume is
what you mean by TM-700, is no different from any other radio that is
programmed by computer.

Dick - W6CCD


On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:26:03 GMT, ml wrote:

thanks for the responce and not to sound rude, but i am very aware of
that fact, from the below,

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


if anyone knows i'd really appreciate the help i know some rigs do it
only found the 2 below

tnx


In article ,
"Noon-Air" wrote:

Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet type
software and a cable that plugs in.

Try this for the Motorola Syntor radio;

http://www.piexx.com/index.php?main_...&products_id=7

And the documentation;

http://www.piexx.com/SynDoc/SynDocC.pdf

Its just for the 2m band, but it is a quality radio!!

Bob N9LVU

ml wrote:
greatful for everyone's trying to help out

ok i was told i am using the correct terminology however it's kinda
obscure so not many know about it

and i am not smart enough to describe it better i'll take another stab

when a radio's memory is addressed for programming by a pc, it's
typically done what is know as 'clone mode' an example of this would be
any yaesu 2m radio(best as i know)

contrasted to the tm-700's method of programming via it's programming
port to pc

yeah all radios have software that might accomplish the same thing but
do so via different metods of addressing or accessing the memory

i know of a software developer that writes fantastic software for the
apple he can only modify drivers to work with his program for radio's
that can be programmed via means other than clone mode

unf there is not alot of ham software outthere for mac's and only one
that allows radio memory programming for 2m/440 etc

sooo

the current software has drivers for rigs that are now almost disco, or
kinda a bit expensive tm700 a litte much for me iwas hoping say to get
a tm271 or simular but looking thru the manuals/broshures of some
newer rigs and it dosn't say a thing about it's memory access

if i find such a radio he'll write the drivers for me

hoping that sombody might be able to point me in the right direction


In article ,
Dick LeadWinger wrote:


I guess you are going to have to tell us what kind of programming you
are talking about. When you "clone" memories, you hook two similar
radios together by cable and transfer the data from one to the other.
We are talking about using a computer to transfer the memories, which
has nothing to do with cloning per se. My TM-D700, which I assume is
what you mean by TM-700, is no different from any other radio that is
programmed by computer.

Dick - W6CCD


On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:26:03 GMT, ml wrote:

thanks for the responce and not to sound rude, but i am very aware of
that fact, from the below,

however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

the software i need to use, is not comptable w/rigs that program via
cloan"" mode


if anyone knows i'd really appreciate the help i know some rigs do it
only found the 2 below

tnx


In article ,
"Noon-Air" wrote:


Most are able to be programmed with a computer... simple spreadsheet type
software and a cable that plugs in.