WOW! neat variation on my call...

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"Rich S." wrote in message
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"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
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(Rich S.) wrote:

I am trying to help a friend track down ...
"Willy Able Four John Tere Marie, slant 4
Charlottesville".

From 1973 Callbook:
WA4JTM (C) Tom Carey 102 Essex Dr Ormond Beach FL 32074

Thank you, Aaron. The information has been forwarded to my friend Dave in
Richmond and the name clicked in his memory. He now has a place to start
looking for his old mentor.

Steve, CainineDCeye, was also kind enough to send me the info - Thanks to
him as well.

73
Rich
November Seven Francis Xavier Rodriguez
)

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:57:21 -0700, "Rich S."
wrote:


But - regarding the address. . . Aaron wrote the zip code as 32074. You
wrote 32174 and 32175. Dave can look it up, of course, but I wonder which
one is current?

32174 is mainland and 32175 is beachside. Both are current (mine is
'174)

I'll stay tuned for your report. Maybe you could get a forwarding address if
he has moved (died, defected, whatever).

I drove by the house this morning. Nothing special and no antennas;
looks like it's had some renovations, so it might have changed hands
recently.

I also checked the current phone directory; no Tom or Thomas Carey in
Ormond Beach. In fact, there are only two listings in Volusia County;
one in Enterprise (a tiny bump in the road about 20 miles from here)
and one in Deland (county seat, and where Walt Maxwell, W2DU, lives).

I'm not much for knocking on doors, so I'll let your friend take it
from here.

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

"LRod" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:57:21 -0700, "Rich S."
wrote:

32174 is mainland and 32175 is beachside. Both are current (mine is '174)

32175 it is, then.

I also checked the current phone directory; no Tom or Thomas Carey in
Ormond Beach. In fact, there are only two listings in Volusia County;
one in Enterprise (a tiny bump in the road about 20 miles from here)
and one in Deland (county seat, and where Walt Maxwell, W2DU, lives).

I asked Dave whether Tim or Tom is the right. He says it's Tim.

I'm not much for knocking on doors, so I'll let your friend take it
from here.

You have earned your star.

LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Wanna see some woodwork I did?
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/shankland/emeraude
Look at the green one near the bottom of the page.

73
Rich
November Seven Francis Xavier Rodriguez
)

"Rich S." wrote:

"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
.. .
(Rich S.) wrote:

I am trying to help a friend track down an old acquaintance. He can't
remember the fellow's name, but he remembers being in the his shack
and hearing him call CQ from "Willy Able Four John Tere Marie, slant 4
Charlottesville".

From 1973 Callbook:
WA4JTM (C) Tom Carey 102 Essex Dr Ormond Beach FL 32074

Thank you, Aaron. The information has been forwarded to my friend Dave in
Richmond and the name clicked in his memory. He now has a place to start
looking for his old mentor.

You're welcome. After reading other posts here I rechecked the 1973 listing.
While I copied the zip correctly, I flubbed on the name. It should be Tim, not
Tom. Sorry about that. It's amazing how much smaller that font has gotten since
I got that book. BTW I went ahead and checked my 1984 call book and the
call had disappeared. I also checked my oldest 'searchable' database (Sams 1994)
for the name 'Tim Carey' and WA4JTM and nothing there either. It seems Tim left
the ham scene. One can only speculate. Maybe a silent key, or inactivity? And of
course your friend might have gotten the phonetics wrong. I can't remember ever
hearing a ham using "Tere" or "Marie" before. Let us know how your friend makes
out and if he has any other guesses, or clues, I'd be happy to try again.

"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...

You're welcome. After reading other posts here I rechecked the 1973
listing.
While I copied the zip correctly, I flubbed on the name. It should be Tim,
not
Tom. Sorry about that. It's amazing how much smaller that font has gotten
since
I got that book. BTW I went ahead and checked my 1984 call book and
the
call had disappeared. I also checked my oldest 'searchable' database (Sams
1994)
for the name 'Tim Carey' and WA4JTM and nothing there either. It seems Tim
left
the ham scene. One can only speculate. Maybe a silent key, or inactivity?
And of
course your friend might have gotten the phonetics wrong. I can't remember
ever
hearing a ham using "Tere" or "Marie" before. Let us know how your friend
makes
out and if he has any other guesses, or clues, I'd be happy to try again.

Aaron..........

Dave verified that Tim Carey is indeed the person he remembers. As soon as I
wrote the name to him, he remembered.

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Rich

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:26:07 -0700, "Rich S."
wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Interestingly, one of the messages from this newsgroup that I have
archived is about phonetic alphabets. You probably learned this one:

Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet:

(Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra

I cut-and-pasted this from the original post.

When I retired from the FAA in 1997 after 30 years, there were still
occasions when I'd hear a couple of those (not counting the ones like
Victor and X-Ray that are also on the ICAO list).

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html


Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet: (Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra


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I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare" (Dave spelled
it
Tere and I just copied what he wrote) was common for "T". "Nan" "November"
or "Nectar" for "N" and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

'Course, I learned my Morse code when Truman was pres.

Rich

"Rich S." wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare"

Yes, Tare for "T" seems to ring a bell. "Tere" threw me as I read it as 'tear'.

"Nan" "November"

Yep remember these being used too.

or "Nectar" for "N"

Nectar? Maybe a CB crossover??

and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

Well Mary was the correct one anyway.

'Course, I learned my Morse code

That's one of the nice things about Morse, no Phonetics...

when Truman was pres.

Well the closest to Truman I can come is my 1947 Callbook. It would have been
'John Thomas Mary' using that books ARRL list. That was only slightly different
from 'John Tom Mary' in the "Western Union Key Words" phonetics for amateurs in
my 1934 Callbook. However in the 1973 Callbook the "ARRL adopted International
Civil Aviation Organization" phonetics list had changed things completely to
'Juliet Tango Mike'. So what the hey, maybe we can get Nectar in officially
someday.

FYI Phonetic Tare

Main Entry: 2tare
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Old Italian tara, from
Arabic tarha, literally, that which is removed
1 : a deduction from the gross weight of a substance and its container made
in allowance for the weight of the container; also : the weight of the
container


And as I sed

From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html


Pre-1954 U.S. Navy Radio Alphabet: (Communications Handbook, 1945)

Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
William X-ray Yoke Zebra

Also from the same website:
German army handbook 90/91: Alfa Foxtrott Juliett.
Italian version: Alfa Charly FoxTrot Giuliet Romio Wiskey.
An Indonesian phrase book: Beta Ultra Volvo Whisky X-ray.
A precursor of the present alphabet (1952?) had: Alfa Coca
Metro Nectar Siera Union Whisky Extra]



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"Aaron Lake" wrote in message
...
"Rich S." wrote:

I remember a lot of the different phonetics used and "Tare"

Yes, Tare for "T" seems to ring a bell. "Tere" threw me as I read it as
'tear'.

"Nan" "November"

Yep remember these being used too.

or "Nectar" for "N"

Nectar? Maybe a CB crossover??

and I seem to remember "Marie" or "Mary" for "M".

Well Mary was the correct one anyway.

'Course, I learned my Morse code

That's one of the nice things about Morse, no Phonetics...

when Truman was pres.

Well the closest to Truman I can come is my 1947 Callbook. It would have
been
'John Thomas Mary' using that books ARRL list. That was only slightly
different
from 'John Tom Mary' in the "Western Union Key Words" phonetics for
amateurs in
my 1934 Callbook. However in the 1973 Callbook the "ARRL adopted
International
Civil Aviation Organization" phonetics list had changed things completely
to
'Juliet Tango Mike'. So what the hey, maybe we can get Nectar in
officially
someday.

"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in message
news:Oaawc.39467$oi5.27584@fed1read07...

A precursor of the present alphabet (1952?) had: Alfa Coca
Metro Nectar Siera Union Whisky Extra

That's the one my Dad used on his aircraft radio in his Cessna 120 back in
1952 or so. The aircraft registration number was 1927 Nectar.

Rich
N7FXR