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![]() H. P. Friedrichs wrote: I am interested in the origins and purpose of the "IRE (Institute of Radio Engineers) Standard Dummy Antenna," as used during the alignment of radio receivers. I first came across this circuit in some old Hallicrafter's documentation, which described the alignment of a particular radio. The "IRE Standard Dummy Antenna" consists of four components--- a 200pf cap in series with a 20 uH inductor, which links the signal generator to the receiver's antenna input. A 400 pF cap in series with a 400 ohm resistor is connected in parallel with (shunts)the inductor. I gather that this circuit models a wire antenna of some type. Is this true? What is the import of the component values and how were they arrived at? I modeled the circuit in Spice and graphed the transfer and impedance curves but it is not entirely clear to me what benefit there is to using this circuit. I've also Googled this and found some references here and there, but nothing explains the "why" of it. Is there anyone who can shed light on this? 73 Pete AC7ZL hpf (at) gainbroadband (dot) com I built an I.R.E. dummy antenna recently to perform an alignment on a Hallicrafters S-120. It is cobbled together on a small perfboard with copper lands around the holes, has a length of coax with a male BNC connector to go the the sig-gen and a female BNC connector to attach the sig-gen lead. I will post a pic on a.b.p.r when I can. Bobby KC9IHK |
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Pete, I was curious about the dummy antenna, too. Some time ago I
modeled it and checked the impedance looking back into the output leads with a 50-ohm generator at the source. The results are he http://users.tns.net/~bb/dummy.htm Before I did the model I figured that the dummy antenna was trying to simulate a certain length of wire on shortwave. But you can see that the magnitude of the output impedance (upper plot) is around 400 ohms throughout the shortwave part of the spectrum. Down in the broadcast band the network becomes almost purely capacitive, which is what a short wire will do. In fact, at 500 and 1000 kHz (the two spots I checked), the dummy impedance is almost exactly that of a wire that runs 15 feet vertically and then 90 feet horizontally over perfectly conducting ground. I imagine they had a 100-foot wire in mind, a figure I think I've seen recommended for BC antenna length in the old days. So I think the network is intended to be 400 ohms resistive at SW and at BC behave as a 100-foot wire would. I align radios with the network and then at installation I tweak the antenna capacitors, if they are easily accessible, on the actual antenna. Brian |
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Brian--
Your spice simulation looked familiar...VERY familiar. As it turns out, I had plotted similar curves and happened to have used Microcap as well! I was just not sure I understood the relationship between the transfer function I saw and some kind of physical antenna. Your comments make sense, though I do have one question: How did you calculate the impedance of the antenna with the shape and dimensions that you described? 73 Pete AC7ZL Brian wrote: Pete, I was curious about the dummy antenna, too. Some time ago I modeled it and checked the impedance looking back into the output leads with a 50-ohm generator at the source. The results are he http://users.tns.net/~bb/dummy.htm Before I did the model I figured that the dummy antenna was trying to simulate a certain length of wire on shortwave. But you can see that the magnitude of the output impedance (upper plot) is around 400 ohms throughout the shortwave part of the spectrum. Down in the broadcast band the network becomes almost purely capacitive, which is what a short wire will do. In fact, at 500 and 1000 kHz (the two spots I checked), the dummy impedance is almost exactly that of a wire that runs 15 feet vertically and then 90 feet horizontally over perfectly conducting ground. I imagine they had a 100-foot wire in mind, a figure I think I've seen recommended for BC antenna length in the old days. So I think the network is intended to be 400 ohms resistive at SW and at BC behave as a 100-foot wire would. I align radios with the network and then at installation I tweak the antenna capacitors, if they are easily accessible, on the actual antenna. Brian |
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![]() Brian wrote: The results are he http://users.tns.net/~bb/dummy.htm Nice charts, thanks for doing those. So I think the network is intended to be 400 ohms resistive at SW and at BC behave as a 100-foot wire would. Pretty much what I said initially. A uniform high impedance. As others pointed out the output attenuator of most "service" grade signal generators at the time was all over the place. What I find amazing is that what we can do with Spice in a few minutes was painstakingly done by hand until the they got the results they desired. Then published as a "cook book" standard for others to use. The bottom line was that you could introduce a signal into the receiver under test without undue de-tuning of the tuned circuits. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. |
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Your comments make sense, though I do have one question: How did you
calculate the impedance of the antenna with the shape and dimensions that you described? With a computer program. Brian |
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Pete, I forgot to mention the reason I believe the IRE dummy antenna
tries to look like a 400-ohm resistive load at shortwave instead of a certain length of wire. You can see why he http://users.tns.net/~bb/antlen.gif This is an old RCA chart showing the behavior of an end-fed wire for lengths to 125 feet. It indicates the many resonances and antiresonances a short wire can exhibit. Since the antenna impedance and the resulting performance vary so markedly with wire length, and because it would be unrealistic to expect all listeners to use one particular length, I think the dummy antenna is just intended to roughly match the input impedance of a typical radio. I'm not sure about consumer radios, but old communications receivers all seem to have a specified input impedance of either 300 or 400 ohms. On the broadcast band, any wire shorter than about 150 feet will look capacitive. It won't exhibit the resonances you see in the chart at shortwave. So even if the wire is shorter than the 100-foot length the dummy antenna seems to model and exhibits a higher capacitive reactance, it won't affect the radio's RF tracking that much. On the broadcast band, most radios seem to use rather loose antenna coupling to minimize mistracking. This allows them to accomodate antennas of various length. There is an interesting discussion about antenna coupling strategies in the Radiotron Designer's Handbook. Brian |
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GREAT info, that's why I lurk here often.
Just one teensy question, though...is this polarized?, e.g. the 200pf cap is the receiver probe, the inductor plus shunt is the signal gen connection? or versa-vice? Thanks, Terry Bakowski [see you at the Peoria Superfest] H. P. Friedrichs wrote: I first came across this circuit in some old Hallicrafter's documentation, which described the alignment of a particular radio. The "IRE Standard Dummy Antenna" consists of four components--- a 200pf cap in series with a 20 uH inductor, which links the signal generator to the receiver's antenna input. A 400 pF cap in series with a 400 ohm resistor is connected in parallel with (shunts)the inductor. |
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Brian,
This link seems to be broken. Pete AC7ZL Brian wrote: Pete, I forgot to mention the reason I believe the IRE dummy antenna tries to look like a 400-ohm resistive load at shortwave instead of a certain length of wire. You can see why he http://users.tns.net/~bb/antlen.gif This is an old RCA chart showing the behavior of an end-fed wire for lengths to 125 feet. It indicates the many resonances and antiresonances a short wire can exhibit. Since the antenna impedance and the resulting performance vary so markedly with wire length, and because it would be unrealistic to expect all listeners to use one particular length, I think the dummy antenna is just intended to roughly match the input impedance of a typical radio. I'm not sure about consumer radios, but old communications receivers all seem to have a specified input impedance of either 300 or 400 ohms. On the broadcast band, any wire shorter than about 150 feet will look capacitive. It won't exhibit the resonances you see in the chart at shortwave. So even if the wire is shorter than the 100-foot length the dummy antenna seems to model and exhibits a higher capacitive reactance, it won't affect the radio's RF tracking that much. On the broadcast band, most radios seem to use rather loose antenna coupling to minimize mistracking. This allows them to accomodate antennas of various length. There is an interesting discussion about antenna coupling strategies in the Radiotron Designer's Handbook. Brian |
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This link seems to be broken.
Pete, I remove temporary items from my web site pretty quickly due to space restrictions. I tried to e-mail the chart to you but got the following reply: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 591 your host [216.86.143.7] is blacklisted by bl.spamcop.net. No mail will be accepted) No more midnight spam for me! Anyway, the chart is back up for a couple more days. By the way, on the perfboard I used to build my dummy antenna I added a 0.1 uF coupling capacitor between the signal generator input and a second output lead with an alligator clip. This provides a 50-ohm DC-isolated signal for IF alignment. I usually align radio IFs by sweeping a signal at the front end, often just blasting through the RF and mixer stages at 455 kHz. But the alligator clip is handy when I want to drive the mixer grid directly. You can drive the grid with the dummy network, but the 50-ohm source impedance of the direct output ensures that the parallel impedance at the grid doesn't affect the sweep flatness. Brian |
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