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anybody have any airdux (or similar) coil stock they wish to part with
(cheap)? Looking for something #16 wire, about 2" diameter, maybe 3" long. Needs to be about 10 turns per inch. Actually, if is is 2" diameter and 10 TPI, I need a 2" chunk for the 13-ish uH needed. It's for a 6146 homebrew transmitter final amp. tnx, Bob kb8tl at yahoo dot com |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... anybody have any airdux (or similar) coil stock they wish to part with (cheap)? Looking for something #16 wire, about 2" diameter, maybe 3" long. Needs to be about 10 turns per inch. Actually, if is is 2" diameter and 10 TPI, I need a 2" chunk for the 13-ish uH needed. It's for a 6146 homebrew transmitter final amp. tnx, Bob kb8tl at yahoo dot com Have you ever thought about winding your own? Find something of the right diameter - PVC pipe, wood dowel, cardboard roll, etc. Wrap it with waxed paper, then wind the wire on it tightly holding the ends down with tape. Mix up some epoxy (24-hour cure will be stronger and more flexible, but 5-minute epoxy will also work). Apply the mixed epoxy to your coil in lines about 1/4 inch wide. Use at least six lines to make a sturdy coil. Let the epoxy cure for several hours to overnight depending on the epoxy chosen. Carefully withdraw the form and unroll the waxed paper from the inside of the coil. It's really simple to do and you have a real homebrew rig. Make sure you use bare copper or tinned copper wire if you have to tap the coil. If you use bare copper, do not use polyester resin instead of the epoxy as it will not cure properly. I won't say why, but instead leave this as a mystery for the readers of this newsgroup. 73, Dr. Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ [transpose the digits to reply] |
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NoSPAM wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message ... anybody have any airdux (or similar) coil stock they wish to part with (cheap)? Have you ever thought about winding your own? Find something of the right diameter - PVC pipe, wood dowel, cardboard roll, etc. Wrap it with waxed paper, then wind the wire on it tightly holding the ends down with tape. Mix up some epoxy (24-hour cure will be stronger and more flexible, but 5-minute epoxy will also work). Apply the mixed epoxy to your coil in lines about 1/4 inch wide. Use at least six lines to make a sturdy coil. Let the epoxy cure for several hours to overnight depending on the epoxy chosen. Carefully withdraw the form and unroll the waxed paper from the inside of the coil. It's really simple to do and you have a real homebrew rig. Thats my plan. I cannot afford the real air/mini-dux. ![]() http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/grebe/rear.jpg Forget the epoxy and use Duco Cement. "polyester resin instead of the epoxy as it will not cure properly. I won't say why, but instead leave this as a mystery for the readers of this newsgroup." For me the Duco Cement has always held better than epoxy. -Bill |
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I'm not sure if you thought of this, but there are
a few guys who do nothing but part out Heathkits and sell the parts on eBay. Right now there's a DX-40 PA coil going for a few bucks. I've seen tons of AirDux styles (such as the DX-40), and also fiberglas and ceramic tanks from later Heathkits. I picked up a PA tank (ceramic form) for a TX project I'm planning. Often the PA tank switch is included, along with the standoff insulators. Worth a shot if nothing pans out here. Pete k1zjh |
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On Jan 24, 9:58*pm, "Tio Pedro" wrote:
I'm not sure if you thought of this, but there are a few guys who do nothing but part out Heathkits and sell the parts on eBay. *Right now there's a DX-40 PA coil going for a few bucks. I've seen tons of AirDux styles (such as the DX-40), and also fiberglas and ceramic tanks from later Heathkits. I picked up a PA tank (ceramic form) for a TX project I'm planning. Often the PA tank switch is included, along with the standoff insulators. Worth a shot if nothing pans out here. Pete k1zjh Hey OM I don't know about that, I bought an airdux coil off of ebay came with the catalog spec sheet for airdux coils The guy listed it as a 100 watt rated coil turned out to be a 1000 watt coil verified by the spec sheet that came with it Although I'll say this nobody else bid on it. And sometimes they use other ebayers pictures and tell you yup what you see is what you get. And the picture isn't a picture of the item. Personally I would roll my own. The trick that not to many people know about epoxy is: heat it up first in a microwave oven, so hot that you can't touch it. Then mix it. I roll up a newspaper, in my case junk mail advertizing flyers, for the coil form, you can get any diameter you want this way. Good luck and 73 OM de n8zu |
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![]() "raypsi" wrote in message ... On Jan 24, 9:58 pm, "Tio Pedro" wrote: I'm not sure if you thought of this, but there are a few guys who do nothing but part out Heathkits and sell the parts on eBay. Right now there's a DX-40 PA coil going for a few bucks. I've seen tons of AirDux styles (such as the DX-40), and also fiberglas and ceramic tanks from later Heathkits. I picked up a PA tank (ceramic form) for a TX project I'm planning. Often the PA tank switch is included, along with the standoff insulators. Worth a shot if nothing pans out here. Pete k1zjh Hey OM I don't know about that, I bought an airdux coil off of ebay came with the catalog spec sheet for airdux coils The guy listed it as a 100 watt rated coil turned out to be a 1000 watt coil verified by the spec sheet that came with it Although I'll say this nobody else bid on it. And sometimes they use other ebayers pictures and tell you yup what you see is what you get. And the picture isn't a picture of the item. Good luck and 73 OM de n8zu You misread what I said. My advice was to look for a PA tank that was salvaged from a DX-40, DX-60, HW-101, etc. Not NOS AirDux stock. Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of folks chopping these old rigs up for parts and selling them off piece meal. The early DX series used AirDux like coils, and they are already tapped for the five original HF bands. There isn't a big market for them so they sell cheap. Pete |
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In Bill M
wrote: I cannot afford the real air/mini-dux. ![]() This thread prompted me to look at B&W's Web site. The price of the real Airdux is breathtaking. A single piece of the 1610TL (10" long, 2" diameter, 10tpi, 16 gauge wire) that the OP is looking for is $100. Even the lesser-rated 3027 Miniductor is a hefty $40. http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/aduxlex.htm http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/mini.htm -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN |
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Bert Hyman wrote:
In Bill M wrote: I cannot afford the real air/mini-dux. ![]() This thread prompted me to look at B&W's Web site. The price of the real Airdux is breathtaking. A single piece of the 1610TL (10" long, 2" diameter, 10tpi, 16 gauge wire) that the OP is looking for is $100. Even the lesser-rated 3027 Miniductor is a hefty $40. http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/aduxlex.htm http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/mini.htm Even inflation doesn't account for those prices! In 1967 I bought some mini-inductor stock for building a receiver project from PE magazine. The #3016 mini-inductor was $1.03 and the #3013 was $0.63 each. Today, they are listed on the website at $60 and $20 each! Over a 50X increase in price! Inflation over some 40 years wasn't THAT bad (or gas would be over $15/gal today). Note that the web site implies that they are no longer making the coils anymore, and that a 'special order' might be involved. |
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NoSPAM wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... anybody have any airdux (or similar) coil stock they wish to part with (cheap)? Looking for something #16 wire, about 2" diameter, maybe 3" long. Needs to be about 10 turns per inch. Actually, if is is 2" diameter and 10 TPI, I need a 2" chunk for the 13-ish uH needed. It's for a 6146 homebrew transmitter final amp. tnx, Bob kb8tl at yahoo dot com Have you ever thought about winding your own? Find something of the right diameter - PVC pipe, wood dowel, cardboard roll, etc. Wrap it with waxed paper, then wind the wire on it tightly holding the ends down with tape. Mix up some epoxy (24-hour cure will be stronger and more flexible, but 5-minute epoxy will also work). Apply the mixed epoxy to your coil in lines about 1/4 inch wide. Use at least six lines to make a sturdy coil. Let the epoxy cure for several hours to overnight depending on the epoxy chosen. Carefully withdraw the form and unroll the waxed paper from the inside of the coil. It's really simple to do and you have a real homebrew rig. Make sure you use bare copper or tinned copper wire if you have to tap the coil. If you use bare copper, do not use polyester resin instead of the epoxy as it will not cure properly. I won't say why, but instead leave this as a mystery for the readers of this newsgroup. suggestions. 1) Fiberglass perf board is drilled on .1 centers so you can cut a piece down the middle of the holes, a bit of hacksaw work if needed, and use it as a comb spacer glued from the outside. 2) just cut several .2 inch strips of perf board with a row of holes in the middle, start at one end and feed a preformed slinky of the wire so that the strips space and support it. 2 is less work than 1, but it's real hard to get it nice looking. 3) Another way is to wind with a second wire used as an interleave, hot glue both wires and then pull out the second wire, (insulated which doesn't take the glue as well as the bare wire and stranded for flexability), from the inside after removed from the forming dowel. For transmitters, you'd probably need to treat the hot glue as a temporary scaffold and use a better glue for the final structure. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
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SUPPLY AND DEMAND....
That is the only thing the really counts....... "ken scharf" wrote in message ... Bert Hyman wrote: In Bill M wrote: I cannot afford the real air/mini-dux. ![]() This thread prompted me to look at B&W's Web site. The price of the real Airdux is breathtaking. A single piece of the 1610TL (10" long, 2" diameter, 10tpi, 16 gauge wire) that the OP is looking for is $100. Even the lesser-rated 3027 Miniductor is a hefty $40. http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/aduxlex.htm http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/mini.htm Even inflation doesn't account for those prices! In 1967 I bought some mini-inductor stock for building a receiver project from PE magazine. The #3016 mini-inductor was $1.03 and the #3013 was $0.63 each. Today, they are listed on the website at $60 and $20 each! Over a 50X increase in price! Inflation over some 40 years wasn't THAT bad (or gas would be over $15/gal today). Note that the web site implies that they are no longer making the coils anymore, and that a 'special order' might be involved. |
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