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I have the MFJ 989C, and I am noticing that I can tune antenna to low SWR but I also have noticed that the SWR often was jumping or spiking and very unusual. I thought it may be coax or antenna or a short but then I noticed also that the inductance coil is very sensitive. If you touch it or tap it this will cause the SWR to spike. Also when it spikes, if you put a little pressure on the Inductance coil knob it will solve the problem. Anyone else have situation such as this? What did you do to fix the problem? I opened it up and cleaned the contacts where I thought the problem was but still didn't correct the problem. Any ideas ??? |
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![]() " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Hi I have the MFJ 989C, and I am noticing that I can tune antenna to low SWR but I also have noticed that the SWR often was jumping or spiking and very unusual. I thought it may be coax or antenna or a short but then I noticed also that the inductance coil is very sensitive. If you touch it or tap it this will cause the SWR to spike. Also when it spikes, if you put a little pressure on the Inductance coil knob it will solve the problem. Anyone else have situation such as this? What did you do to fix the problem? I opened it up and cleaned the contacts where I thought the problem was but still didn't correct the problem. Any ideas ??? 1. Check the contacts that you _don't_ think are the problem. Just because it's a roller inductor doesn't mean that you're not the victim of a garden-variety cold solder joint or a loose rivet. I'd check the whole current path from one solder joint to the other (including the other moving contacts -- there's a slip-ring _and_ a roller, yes?). 1a. You might want to try measuring resistance while you wiggle the thing to see where the problem is. This can be difficult and frustrating, but if you manage it you'll know for sure where the problem is. 2. _Only_ after you've verified that it isn't something else, see if you can increase the contact pressure on the questionable joint. I'd think long and hard before I did this on my own equipment, because it'll make it wear out quicker. |
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![]() " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Hi I have the MFJ 989C, and I am noticing that I can tune antenna to low SWR but I also have noticed that the SWR often was jumping or spiking and very unusual. I thought it may be coax or antenna or a short but then I noticed also that the inductance coil is very sensitive. If you touch it or tap it this will cause the SWR to spike. Also when it spikes, if you put a little pressure on the Inductance coil knob it will solve the problem. Anyone else have situation such as this? What did you do to fix the problem? I opened it up and cleaned the contacts where I thought the problem was but still didn't correct the problem. Any ideas ??? 1. Check the contacts that you _don't_ think are the problem. Just because it's a roller inductor doesn't mean that you're not the victim of a garden-variety cold solder joint or a loose rivet. I'd check the whole current path from one solder joint to the other (including the other moving contacts -- there's a slip-ring _and_ a roller, yes?). 1a. You might want to try measuring resistance while you wiggle the thing to see where the problem is. This can be difficult and frustrating, but if you manage it you'll know for sure where the problem is. 2. _Only_ after you've verified that it isn't something else, see if you can increase the contact pressure on the questionable joint. I'd think long and hard before I did this on my own equipment, because it'll make it wear out quicker. |
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I have the MFJ 989C, and I am noticing that I can tune antenna to low SWR
but I also have noticed that the SWR often was jumping or spiking and very unusual. I thought it may be coax or antenna or a short but then I noticed also that the inductance coil is very sensitive. If you touch it or tap it this will cause the SWR to spike. Also when it spikes, if you put a little pressure on the Inductance coil knob it will solve the problem. Anyone else have situation such as this? What did you do to fix the problem? I opened it up and cleaned the contacts where I thought the problem was but still didn't correct the problem. I had a problem similar to this with a tuner I bought from a guy at a fleamarket some time ago - a homebrew SPC based on the design in the ARRL handbook of a few years ago. The tuner was worse off than your MFJ - it was jumpy during transmission, _and_ very difficult to get to tune to a low SWR at all. The problem turned out to be the roller inductor, which (like most of the other parts he'd used) had been recycled from older equipment. It turned out to have two sets of problems: - The contacts at the end of the main roller were badly gunked up, with dirt and with some form of old lubricant. There was a similar amount of gunk in the bearing area where the contact wheel slides back and forth on its support rod. - There was a significant amount of pitting on both the contact wheel, and on several sections of the wire on the inductor. I suspect that the previous owner of this inductor had overstressed it, causing arcing which pitted the contact area. Fortunately, I was able to fix it completely with a bit of effort. I started out by cleaning all of the dust and dirt off of the roller inductor, using a combination of isopropyl alcohol, and some Caig DeOxIt spray, and wiping with a clean cloth. I also cleaned the contacts at the end of the roller, spraying with DeOxIt and then using cloth to soak up the gunk which had been flushed out by the spray. I repeated this process until all of the contact areas had been flushed out, and no longer emitted any amount of black goo when sprayed. Finally, the contact wheel's central bearing (where it slides/rolls back and forth on a metal rod) needed to be flushed out in the same way. Fixing the pitting on the roller contact wheel and the wire was the next task. The wheel was easy - it's solid silver, and I was able to burnish it and restore a flat contact surface with a small riffler file. I used the same approach to buff off the pitting on the roller wire, but in doing so the silver plating on the polished areas was removed and the underlying copper was exposed. I could have left it that way, and just cleaned the wire more often to avoid oxidation, but instead I decided to buy a small silverplating kit (from www.caswellplating.com) and re-plate the wire. Doing so took only a few minutes once I had the kit. I finished up by giving the wire another cleaning with isopropyl, and then sprayed a small amount of DeOxIt on a clean cotton cloth and wiped down the wire, the roller contact surface, and the metal rod on which the roller slides back and forth. This left all of the electrical-contact surfaces clean, lubricated, and with a thin film of antioxidant protection. The results were everything I could have hoped for. The "jumpiness" of the roller inductor is completely gone. Once tuned to a low SWR, the SWR stays low during transmission. Fine adjustment of the inductor control result in an easy, smooth change in SWR / reflected power. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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I have the MFJ 989C, and I am noticing that I can tune antenna to low SWR
but I also have noticed that the SWR often was jumping or spiking and very unusual. I thought it may be coax or antenna or a short but then I noticed also that the inductance coil is very sensitive. If you touch it or tap it this will cause the SWR to spike. Also when it spikes, if you put a little pressure on the Inductance coil knob it will solve the problem. Anyone else have situation such as this? What did you do to fix the problem? I opened it up and cleaned the contacts where I thought the problem was but still didn't correct the problem. I had a problem similar to this with a tuner I bought from a guy at a fleamarket some time ago - a homebrew SPC based on the design in the ARRL handbook of a few years ago. The tuner was worse off than your MFJ - it was jumpy during transmission, _and_ very difficult to get to tune to a low SWR at all. The problem turned out to be the roller inductor, which (like most of the other parts he'd used) had been recycled from older equipment. It turned out to have two sets of problems: - The contacts at the end of the main roller were badly gunked up, with dirt and with some form of old lubricant. There was a similar amount of gunk in the bearing area where the contact wheel slides back and forth on its support rod. - There was a significant amount of pitting on both the contact wheel, and on several sections of the wire on the inductor. I suspect that the previous owner of this inductor had overstressed it, causing arcing which pitted the contact area. Fortunately, I was able to fix it completely with a bit of effort. I started out by cleaning all of the dust and dirt off of the roller inductor, using a combination of isopropyl alcohol, and some Caig DeOxIt spray, and wiping with a clean cloth. I also cleaned the contacts at the end of the roller, spraying with DeOxIt and then using cloth to soak up the gunk which had been flushed out by the spray. I repeated this process until all of the contact areas had been flushed out, and no longer emitted any amount of black goo when sprayed. Finally, the contact wheel's central bearing (where it slides/rolls back and forth on a metal rod) needed to be flushed out in the same way. Fixing the pitting on the roller contact wheel and the wire was the next task. The wheel was easy - it's solid silver, and I was able to burnish it and restore a flat contact surface with a small riffler file. I used the same approach to buff off the pitting on the roller wire, but in doing so the silver plating on the polished areas was removed and the underlying copper was exposed. I could have left it that way, and just cleaned the wire more often to avoid oxidation, but instead I decided to buy a small silverplating kit (from www.caswellplating.com) and re-plate the wire. Doing so took only a few minutes once I had the kit. I finished up by giving the wire another cleaning with isopropyl, and then sprayed a small amount of DeOxIt on a clean cotton cloth and wiped down the wire, the roller contact surface, and the metal rod on which the roller slides back and forth. This left all of the electrical-contact surfaces clean, lubricated, and with a thin film of antioxidant protection. The results were everything I could have hoped for. The "jumpiness" of the roller inductor is completely gone. Once tuned to a low SWR, the SWR stays low during transmission. Fine adjustment of the inductor control result in an easy, smooth change in SWR / reflected power. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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Dave Platt wrote:
. . . As to RF coming out with the cover off - I've always heard that a well-designed-and-constructed tuner will not radiate a significant amount of RF even if the case is not a shielded one. Cebik, for example, writes that "Well-wired ATUs do not radiate, consisting of passive components only, so a metal case is not required" and constructed an L-C-L tuner with a case made out of plexiglass. . . . I guess we each have our own definition of "significant". Get a small fluorescent tube. Hold it near one end and wave the other near the tuner coil. Depending on your power level, tuner setting, and antenna impedance, the result might spur you to think about the meaning of "significant". Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Dave Platt wrote:
. . . As to RF coming out with the cover off - I've always heard that a well-designed-and-constructed tuner will not radiate a significant amount of RF even if the case is not a shielded one. Cebik, for example, writes that "Well-wired ATUs do not radiate, consisting of passive components only, so a metal case is not required" and constructed an L-C-L tuner with a case made out of plexiglass. . . . I guess we each have our own definition of "significant". Get a small fluorescent tube. Hold it near one end and wave the other near the tuner coil. Depending on your power level, tuner setting, and antenna impedance, the result might spur you to think about the meaning of "significant". Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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