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Hi all,
I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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Paul:
[snip] I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) [snip] Such a design can be achieved with a vert simple formula and a pocket calculator or slide rule. Why don't you just use Bennett's simple formula for the maximally flat approximation all pole element values, or Takashi's simple formulae for the equiripple approximation all pole element values? Oh... perhaps you want elliptic [Cauer or Darlington] designs or perhaps a completely general parameter design in that case ypu will need a computer and will need to do some programming or buy some programming, or better yet... Hire a consultant... :-) Hey, I've designed literally thousands of LC filters over decades in most frequency ranges, for clients who have paid me well. I have access to very sophisticated and comprehensive general parameter LC filter design programs that I have written [In Fortran BTW] over lo these many years and they are immediately at my disposal. But... unfortunately for some... I never design filters for free! I'll do it for you at my usual consulting rates. My rates are reasonable. Just call or email me to discuss the terms and conditions. :-) -- Peter Professional Consultant - Signal Processing and Analog Electronics Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL peter dot brackett at "eye" triple "e" dot org. USA area code three two one, number seven two three, nine two five five. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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Paul:
[snip] I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) [snip] Such a design can be achieved with a vert simple formula and a pocket calculator or slide rule. Why don't you just use Bennett's simple formula for the maximally flat approximation all pole element values, or Takashi's simple formulae for the equiripple approximation all pole element values? Oh... perhaps you want elliptic [Cauer or Darlington] designs or perhaps a completely general parameter design in that case ypu will need a computer and will need to do some programming or buy some programming, or better yet... Hire a consultant... :-) Hey, I've designed literally thousands of LC filters over decades in most frequency ranges, for clients who have paid me well. I have access to very sophisticated and comprehensive general parameter LC filter design programs that I have written [In Fortran BTW] over lo these many years and they are immediately at my disposal. But... unfortunately for some... I never design filters for free! I'll do it for you at my usual consulting rates. My rates are reasonable. Just call or email me to discuss the terms and conditions. :-) -- Peter Professional Consultant - Signal Processing and Analog Electronics Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL peter dot brackett at "eye" triple "e" dot org. USA area code three two one, number seven two three, nine two five five. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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Conversely, go to the WB6BLD website and download the free student version
of Elsie and do it yourself, will take an hour to learn the software and 5 minutes to design the filter. Another good filter program that is free and available and relatively easy to use is at the AADE website. Would be worth your while to learn even if you seldom design a filter. W4ZCB "Peter O. Brackett" wrote in message hlink.net... Paul: [snip] I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) [snip] Such a design can be achieved with a vert simple formula and a pocket calculator or slide rule. Why don't you just use Bennett's simple formula for the maximally flat approximation all pole element values, or Takashi's simple formulae for the equiripple approximation all pole element values? Oh... perhaps you want elliptic [Cauer or Darlington] designs or perhaps a completely general parameter design in that case ypu will need a computer and will need to do some programming or buy some programming, or better yet... Hire a consultant... :-) Hey, I've designed literally thousands of LC filters over decades in most frequency ranges, for clients who have paid me well. I have access to very sophisticated and comprehensive general parameter LC filter design programs that I have written [In Fortran BTW] over lo these many years and they are immediately at my disposal. But... unfortunately for some... I never design filters for free! I'll do it for you at my usual consulting rates. My rates are reasonable. Just call or email me to discuss the terms and conditions. :-) -- Peter Professional Consultant - Signal Processing and Analog Electronics Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL peter dot brackett at "eye" triple "e" dot org. USA area code three two one, number seven two three, nine two five five. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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Conversely, go to the WB6BLD website and download the free student version
of Elsie and do it yourself, will take an hour to learn the software and 5 minutes to design the filter. Another good filter program that is free and available and relatively easy to use is at the AADE website. Would be worth your while to learn even if you seldom design a filter. W4ZCB "Peter O. Brackett" wrote in message hlink.net... Paul: [snip] I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) [snip] Such a design can be achieved with a vert simple formula and a pocket calculator or slide rule. Why don't you just use Bennett's simple formula for the maximally flat approximation all pole element values, or Takashi's simple formulae for the equiripple approximation all pole element values? Oh... perhaps you want elliptic [Cauer or Darlington] designs or perhaps a completely general parameter design in that case ypu will need a computer and will need to do some programming or buy some programming, or better yet... Hire a consultant... :-) Hey, I've designed literally thousands of LC filters over decades in most frequency ranges, for clients who have paid me well. I have access to very sophisticated and comprehensive general parameter LC filter design programs that I have written [In Fortran BTW] over lo these many years and they are immediately at my disposal. But... unfortunately for some... I never design filters for free! I'll do it for you at my usual consulting rates. My rates are reasonable. Just call or email me to discuss the terms and conditions. :-) -- Peter Professional Consultant - Signal Processing and Analog Electronics Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL peter dot brackett at "eye" triple "e" dot org. USA area code three two one, number seven two three, nine two five five. "Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. -- The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:43:21 +0000, Paul Burridge
wrote: Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. The usual technique is to get a book that has tables of normalized LC lowpass filters of various types, pick a response you like, and scale it and map to a bandpass. Williams' "Electronic Filter Design Handbook" has all this stuff. It's mildly tedious, so I won't offer to do one for you. John |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:43:21 +0000, Paul Burridge
wrote: Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. The usual technique is to get a book that has tables of normalized LC lowpass filters of various types, pick a response you like, and scale it and map to a bandpass. Williams' "Electronic Filter Design Handbook" has all this stuff. It's mildly tedious, so I won't offer to do one for you. John |
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Paul Burridge wrote:
Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) If you have Office 2002 (XP), you can use this web site. http://www.rfcafe.com/references/_sp...er_plot_ss.htm -- A man, a plan, a cat, a canal - Panama! Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee and a couple of ha, ha, has; That's how we pass the day away, in the merry old land of Oz. |
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Paul Burridge wrote:
Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) If you have Office 2002 (XP), you can use this web site. http://www.rfcafe.com/references/_sp...er_plot_ss.htm -- A man, a plan, a cat, a canal - Panama! Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee and a couple of ha, ha, has; That's how we pass the day away, in the merry old land of Oz. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:43:21 +0000, Paul Burridge
wrote: Hi all, I need a simple design for a BPF with a centre frequency of 17.2Mhz., corner frequencies one Meg or therabouts either side of that and a reasonably good shape factor (nothing critical here). I don't mind having to do a bit of tweaking of values myself if anyone has something close to that they can post. Passive L/C combinations only, please. (assume the usual 50R nominal Zs.) Thanks, p. Try this 5 pole Chebychev with 0.1dB ripple Fc=17.2MHz BW=1MHz CAP 1 2 C=27PF PLC 2 0 L=1uH C=56PF CAP 2 3 C=4PF PLC 3 0 L=.1uH C=80PF CAP 3 4 C=3PF PLC 4 0 L=1uH C=80PF CAP 4 5 C=3PF PLC 5 0 L=1uH C=80PF CAP 5 6 C=4PF PLC 6 0 L=1uH C=56PF CAP 6 7 C=27PF tia, Remove "HeadFromButt", before replying by email. |
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