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Old March 10th 04, 06:02 AM
Avery Fineman
 
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Default WWVB decoder circuit

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Dennis wrote:

HI,

Does anybody have a circuit that will
decode the WWVB signal,and output to a clock
led circuit?

TIA,

Dennis

Hi,
Unless you want to have fun building a clock, there are many such clocks
or watches out there. I wear a watch. Very accurate in time keeping.
Tony, VE6CGX


Yes, I have one of these clocks also. The thing is, these clocks
are set 6 times in a 24hr perod by the WWVB signal. The rest of the
time the time base is an ordinary crystal. I want my clock to be
set on a more continous basis. This could only happen with the
continous decoding of the signal. This is how the "professional"
clocks, such as those made by Spectracom work.

-Dennis


You'll find that most of the schematics on the net for atomic clocks are
of the crystal variety-they set once or twice a day with WWVB and the
rest of the time use a crystal. You'll have to do some digging to come
up with something that does continuous decoding, but I'm sure it's out
there.


The equipment is "out there" but the closest you will come to any
sort of detailed description/circuitry is the NIST site itself. An
example is the IRIG range timing, usually derived from a rubidium
or cesium standard, they may do an update via the NIST time code
but more likely it will phase-lock to the WWVB carrier.

"Ordinary" quartz crystals in the radio clocks can have all sorts of
tolerances on their frequency. There are 86,400 seconds in one
day. A common 50 ppm (parts per million) tolerance (5 x 10^-5)
would show a 4.32 second per day maximum error. By stabilizing,
or perhaps trimming, the oscillator circuit in a radio clock, one can
get it down to 5 ppm or 0.432 seconds per day error.

However, an update circuit might exhibit a quantization error of
1 second which would be additive to the radio clock's crystal
oscillator tolerance and possibly defeat the "accurate setting."

As a practical matter, I used to spot-check the Oregon Scientific
radio clock against the WWV ticks and found it to be better than
6 ppm, the worst error being about a half-second. I just checked
again and found it to be bang-on the WWV ticks. :-) The big
radio clock is in the same sync on seconds with the little one.

To avoid quantization errors of setting the internal calendar clock,
the "update" could advance or retard the crystal through a VCXO
circuit driven by a D-to-A whose digital correction is derived from
a comparison of the NIST time code to the internal calendar
clock. Kind of a very slow phase-lock done the hard way. Might
take days to get in phase. :-)

I'm very satisfied with better than +/- 1 second error from these two
inexpensive things and won't change them. Ain't in the TV BC
biz like CBS affiliate stations back in '56 that needed +/- 1 second
maximum errors to "take network" when scheduled or lose money.

Len Anderson
retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person
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