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Old April 19th 04, 11:45 PM
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"xpyttl" wrote in message ...
If you don't want to spend an afternoon building a programmer for a
PIC, AVR
or whatever, be prepared to pay the long dollar. There are few folks
these
days who would build an IDer from discrete circuits. However, it's a
pain
in the butt trying to make an IDer programmable for someone who
doesn't want
to program!

The Hamtronics suggestion was most welcomed... As I'd stated .... I
don't have the knowledge or expertise at programming, debugging
software, etc. to indulge in the PIC. I'm sure it is a useful device
and honestly, if I had the time to spend, I'd go that route, 73, Mike.
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Old April 19th 04, 11:45 PM
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"xpyttl" wrote in message ...
If you don't want to spend an afternoon building a programmer for a
PIC, AVR
or whatever, be prepared to pay the long dollar. There are few folks
these
days who would build an IDer from discrete circuits. However, it's a
pain
in the butt trying to make an IDer programmable for someone who
doesn't want
to program!

The Hamtronics suggestion was most welcomed... As I'd stated .... I
don't have the knowledge or expertise at programming, debugging
software, etc. to indulge in the PIC. I'm sure it is a useful device
and honestly, if I had the time to spend, I'd go that route, 73, Mike.
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Old April 19th 04, 11:55 PM
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Do a search on Ebay for "repeater controller". You might try one of Boyds
BD-1 repeater controllers, which also make killer ID'ers. B&D Enterprises
has a web site that can be found with google.

For about $69 you get a complete controller, that programs as an ID'er
and/or repeater controller. You can talk to it with your computer (serial
port) and program what ever message you want to transmit. The unit also
responds to dtmf commands.

Very Cool!

cheers
skipp

www.radiowrench.com

: zerobeat wrote:
: Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
: used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
: seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
: small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
: Mike.
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Old April 19th 04, 11:55 PM
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Do a search on Ebay for "repeater controller". You might try one of Boyds
BD-1 repeater controllers, which also make killer ID'ers. B&D Enterprises
has a web site that can be found with google.

For about $69 you get a complete controller, that programs as an ID'er
and/or repeater controller. You can talk to it with your computer (serial
port) and program what ever message you want to transmit. The unit also
responds to dtmf commands.

Very Cool!

cheers
skipp

www.radiowrench.com

: zerobeat wrote:
: Anyone know of an easy to build ider? I know a basic stamp can be
: used, but I don't have the programming abilities. The QST ones I've
: seen all use outdated components and are complex. I'm building a
: small broacast band beacon (low end, around 530 khz) Thanks, 73,
: Mike.


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Old April 20th 04, 10:32 PM
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"Skipp has a BD-1" wrote in message
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Do a search on Ebay for "repeater controller". You might try one of Boyds
BD-1 repeater controllers, which also make killer ID'ers. B&D Enterprises
has a web site that can be found with google.

For about $69 you get a complete controller, that programs as an ID'er
and/or repeater controller. You can talk to it with your computer (serial
port) and program what ever message you want to transmit. The unit also
responds to dtmf commands.


Depending on how small and low power this has to be, you might even go the
large route and buy a $15-20 used 386 or 486 computer with sound card, that
way you could have a voice id, interfacing to the radio isn't too difficult.
Something like the psk or mntty interface to trigger the radios ptt, and a
simple program to do the timing and send out the audio.


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Old April 20th 04, 10:32 PM
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"Skipp has a BD-1" wrote in message
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Do a search on Ebay for "repeater controller". You might try one of Boyds
BD-1 repeater controllers, which also make killer ID'ers. B&D Enterprises
has a web site that can be found with google.

For about $69 you get a complete controller, that programs as an ID'er
and/or repeater controller. You can talk to it with your computer (serial
port) and program what ever message you want to transmit. The unit also
responds to dtmf commands.


Depending on how small and low power this has to be, you might even go the
large route and buy a $15-20 used 386 or 486 computer with sound card, that
way you could have a voice id, interfacing to the radio isn't too difficult.
Something like the psk or mntty interface to trigger the radios ptt, and a
simple program to do the timing and send out the audio.


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Old April 20th 04, 10:56 PM
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Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with
various options. Some people are choosing products at over
$50 and the most recent one suggested a PC. Everyone has
had their reasons for these.


A problem I have here is the OP hasn't really given us a fair
chance of replying well, due to lack of information/feedback.

If the OP basically wanted a CW ID Keyer as suggested, I really
fail to see why a simple K1EL keyer for aroud $10 can be beat.
A K10 is programmed by CW, it has a beacon mode and lot's of
potentially useful features.

Please OP, tell us what you really want as this thread is beginning
to frustrate me due to all of the options, wide price range and
huge variations in complexity.

I understand we're all trying to help but the thread is getting
crazy on price and complexity for an oh-so-simple problem!

Rv!


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Old April 20th 04, 10:56 PM
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Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with
various options. Some people are choosing products at over
$50 and the most recent one suggested a PC. Everyone has
had their reasons for these.


A problem I have here is the OP hasn't really given us a fair
chance of replying well, due to lack of information/feedback.

If the OP basically wanted a CW ID Keyer as suggested, I really
fail to see why a simple K1EL keyer for aroud $10 can be beat.
A K10 is programmed by CW, it has a beacon mode and lot's of
potentially useful features.

Please OP, tell us what you really want as this thread is beginning
to frustrate me due to all of the options, wide price range and
huge variations in complexity.

I understand we're all trying to help but the thread is getting
crazy on price and complexity for an oh-so-simple problem!

Rv!


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Old April 21st 04, 03:15 AM
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"Rv!" wrote in message
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Hi all,
I seem to have missed something here.
The OP wanted a CW ID Keyer and we've all came up with


Actually, the OP said IDer, not ID Keyer. Since the application was in the
broadcast band, it seemed odd to me that he wanted an IDer, but clearly, I
don't understand his application. I sort of wondered whether the COR was
part of the problem, too, but he never revealed that much about his app. He
seemed relatively happy with the Hamtronics choice, kinda pricey I thought,
but they program it. That, apparently, is worth something to the OP. I
suspect he may not know Morse so the K1EL keyer wouldn't be much use. In
any case, he seemed to totally ignore the keyer suggestions, liked the high
priced spread, and indicated he wouldn't mind rolling his own if he had the
time.

I thought the 386 was a great suggestion in the true ham tradition. We're
always looking for small, sexy solutions, when an old boat anchor could be
pressed into service practically free. Well, except for the time, and that,
apparently, is an issue for the original poster.

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