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I've had good service from Jameco over the years but -- I recently ordered
2N5484 FETs from them. The datasheet they have on their site is the same as Fairchild's, so I figured I would be getting a prime part. If you've used 2N5484s, you know why I wanted that particular part. What they sent, however, was NTE312s. The Idss spec for the NTE312 is 5-15 mA, vs 1-5 mA for the 2N5484. I tested a few of the NTE312s and confirmed the bad news. So beware of Jameco when ordering active parts. You may not get what their Website and catalog say. In the case of the FETs, in a reasonable quantity, Mouser has the Fairchild 2N5484s for the same price. 73, "PM" |
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Yes, has happened to me too !
If the part can't be substituted, I telephone the order and specify do not substitute and that works about 9 out of ten times with jameco and mouser. Mark Paul wrote: I've had good service from Jameco over the years but -- I recently ordered 2N5484 FETs from them. The datasheet they have on their site is the same as Fairchild's, so I figured I would be getting a prime part. If you've used 2N5484s, you know why I wanted that particular part. What they sent, however, was NTE312s. The Idss spec for the NTE312 is 5-15 mA, vs 1-5 mA for the 2N5484. I tested a few of the NTE312s and confirmed the bad news. So beware of Jameco when ordering active parts. You may not get what their Website and catalog say. In the case of the FETs, in a reasonable quantity, Mouser has the Fairchild 2N5484s for the same price. 73, "PM" |
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Yes, has happened to me too !
If the part can't be substituted, I telephone the order and specify do not substitute and that works about 9 out of ten times with jameco and mouser. Mark Paul wrote: I've had good service from Jameco over the years but -- I recently ordered 2N5484 FETs from them. The datasheet they have on their site is the same as Fairchild's, so I figured I would be getting a prime part. If you've used 2N5484s, you know why I wanted that particular part. What they sent, however, was NTE312s. The Idss spec for the NTE312 is 5-15 mA, vs 1-5 mA for the 2N5484. I tested a few of the NTE312s and confirmed the bad news. So beware of Jameco when ordering active parts. You may not get what their Website and catalog say. In the case of the FETs, in a reasonable quantity, Mouser has the Fairchild 2N5484s for the same price. 73, "PM" |
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Some times too, the information placed into their computer isn't correct. I
ordered some parts for a radio repair once - from a company. They sent me what was "supposed" to be the correct part (SUB), in this case a Transistor.... What I needed was an NPN. I didn't bother to check it, as I was busy and I figured they knew what they were doing. I placed the part in the radio and since it was the only part in that unit I had to replace, I fired it up. Snap, crackle, pop. I ain't talking Rice Krispies. I seen smoke. I knew all the other parts were ok, so I took the transistor back out and looked at it. I looked the number up - personally, which turned out to be a "PNP". WOW. So much for trusting. I called the company, spoke to the tech of that firm. He at first swore it was the cross for what I ordered - while looking at the computer records they had. I said NO, the part I ordered and this was crossed for, is an NPN. This is a PNP. He checked in their cross reference book and then the computer again. He found the computer had the wrong cross type listed. He apologized and corrected it right there and then, then asked me again the part number I needed. I told him. He took care of that, which he said would be free of charge. He then asked if any other parts were damaged - they would send free of cost or if I wanted them to reimburse me labor for my time. I said no to both. It was no big deal, but the right part would be nice. I got it in short order, placed it in and whalah, the set was working. So, that company was very apologetic about the error and willing to make amends. While that may be a somewhat different scenario from "substitutes" as listed below, I guess the caveat here is make sure you check the parts BEFORE you place them in service. It could save some headaches. I learned about the same time to never trust "new" parts. To always check them if possible before placing in the circuit - as I've bought "new" components in stores such as Radio Shack, only to bring them home and find them defective. Those events were in my early years of getting into Electronics. Lessons I've carried through to this day. IF you have enough data available, or maybe to ask in here, you're better off to try to shoot for a couple subs, just in case the company you deal with doesn't have one and maybe not the other - especially listed AS subs. I try to leave nothing to chance anymore. You can't always trust the phone sales help. They go by what is in their computers. Most of them are clueless when it comes to electronics. Some people tend to forget this. IF you find a company that stocks many items of interest, such as Mouser or whoever, you're better off dealing with them to save all the hassle of sending here and there for parts and end up losing time and paying more in shipping than what the damned part or project may be worth. I have 3 companies I deal with basically. The rest I use sparingly. Mouser is one of those I use. For the record, I don't recall the company I got the "wrong" part from as aforementioned. But as I said, they did remedy it. Lou "Mark" wrote in message ... Yes, has happened to me too ! If the part can't be substituted, I telephone the order and specify do not substitute and that works about 9 out of ten times with jameco and mouser. Mark Paul wrote: I've had good service from Jameco over the years but -- I recently ordered 2N5484 FETs from them. The datasheet they have on their site is the same as Fairchild's, so I figured I would be getting a prime part. If you've used 2N5484s, you know why I wanted that particular part. What they sent, however, was NTE312s. The Idss spec for the NTE312 is 5-15 mA, vs 1-5 mA for the 2N5484. I tested a few of the NTE312s and confirmed the bad news. So beware of Jameco when ordering active parts. You may not get what their Website and catalog say. In the case of the FETs, in a reasonable quantity, Mouser has the Fairchild 2N5484s for the same price. 73, "PM" |
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Some times too, the information placed into their computer isn't correct. I
ordered some parts for a radio repair once - from a company. They sent me what was "supposed" to be the correct part (SUB), in this case a Transistor.... What I needed was an NPN. I didn't bother to check it, as I was busy and I figured they knew what they were doing. I placed the part in the radio and since it was the only part in that unit I had to replace, I fired it up. Snap, crackle, pop. I ain't talking Rice Krispies. I seen smoke. I knew all the other parts were ok, so I took the transistor back out and looked at it. I looked the number up - personally, which turned out to be a "PNP". WOW. So much for trusting. I called the company, spoke to the tech of that firm. He at first swore it was the cross for what I ordered - while looking at the computer records they had. I said NO, the part I ordered and this was crossed for, is an NPN. This is a PNP. He checked in their cross reference book and then the computer again. He found the computer had the wrong cross type listed. He apologized and corrected it right there and then, then asked me again the part number I needed. I told him. He took care of that, which he said would be free of charge. He then asked if any other parts were damaged - they would send free of cost or if I wanted them to reimburse me labor for my time. I said no to both. It was no big deal, but the right part would be nice. I got it in short order, placed it in and whalah, the set was working. So, that company was very apologetic about the error and willing to make amends. While that may be a somewhat different scenario from "substitutes" as listed below, I guess the caveat here is make sure you check the parts BEFORE you place them in service. It could save some headaches. I learned about the same time to never trust "new" parts. To always check them if possible before placing in the circuit - as I've bought "new" components in stores such as Radio Shack, only to bring them home and find them defective. Those events were in my early years of getting into Electronics. Lessons I've carried through to this day. IF you have enough data available, or maybe to ask in here, you're better off to try to shoot for a couple subs, just in case the company you deal with doesn't have one and maybe not the other - especially listed AS subs. I try to leave nothing to chance anymore. You can't always trust the phone sales help. They go by what is in their computers. Most of them are clueless when it comes to electronics. Some people tend to forget this. IF you find a company that stocks many items of interest, such as Mouser or whoever, you're better off dealing with them to save all the hassle of sending here and there for parts and end up losing time and paying more in shipping than what the damned part or project may be worth. I have 3 companies I deal with basically. The rest I use sparingly. Mouser is one of those I use. For the record, I don't recall the company I got the "wrong" part from as aforementioned. But as I said, they did remedy it. Lou "Mark" wrote in message ... Yes, has happened to me too ! If the part can't be substituted, I telephone the order and specify do not substitute and that works about 9 out of ten times with jameco and mouser. Mark Paul wrote: I've had good service from Jameco over the years but -- I recently ordered 2N5484 FETs from them. The datasheet they have on their site is the same as Fairchild's, so I figured I would be getting a prime part. If you've used 2N5484s, you know why I wanted that particular part. What they sent, however, was NTE312s. The Idss spec for the NTE312 is 5-15 mA, vs 1-5 mA for the 2N5484. I tested a few of the NTE312s and confirmed the bad news. So beware of Jameco when ordering active parts. You may not get what their Website and catalog say. In the case of the FETs, in a reasonable quantity, Mouser has the Fairchild 2N5484s for the same price. 73, "PM" |
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john graesser wrote,
The last time I ordered from Jameco was years ago, back in the Z80 cpu days, I ordered a Z80B (6mhz cpu) and they sent me a Z80C (4mhz). Never ordered from them again. Buyer beware. thanks, John. KC5DWD Jameco is a pretty good company. I've never had any problems with them. I don't suppose you bothered to let them know they sent you the wrong part. Anyone can make a mistake. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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john graesser wrote,
The last time I ordered from Jameco was years ago, back in the Z80 cpu days, I ordered a Z80B (6mhz cpu) and they sent me a Z80C (4mhz). Never ordered from them again. Buyer beware. thanks, John. KC5DWD Jameco is a pretty good company. I've never had any problems with them. I don't suppose you bothered to let them know they sent you the wrong part. Anyone can make a mistake. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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Tdonaly wrote:
john graesser wrote, The last time I ordered from Jameco was years ago, back in the Z80 cpu days, I ordered a Z80B (6mhz cpu) and they sent me a Z80C (4mhz). Never ordered from them again. Buyer beware. thanks, John. KC5DWD Jameco is a pretty good company. I've never had any problems with them. I don't suppose you bothered to let them know they sent you the wrong part. Anyone can make a mistake. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH Last time I ordered from Jameco was when they had a closeout sale on some discontinued parts real cheap.. I got about two dozen CA3028's intended for a future project. They had cut, formed leads to plug into an 8 pin dip socket, otherwise prime. The're still in my parts bin and will probably get used in a rig I'm designing. As far as computer stuff goes, Jameco is about 2 years behind the state of the art as far as what they have to sell (anybody STILL building Pentium II computers, you can get your mother boards at Jameco!). |
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Tdonaly wrote:
john graesser wrote, The last time I ordered from Jameco was years ago, back in the Z80 cpu days, I ordered a Z80B (6mhz cpu) and they sent me a Z80C (4mhz). Never ordered from them again. Buyer beware. thanks, John. KC5DWD Jameco is a pretty good company. I've never had any problems with them. I don't suppose you bothered to let them know they sent you the wrong part. Anyone can make a mistake. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH Last time I ordered from Jameco was when they had a closeout sale on some discontinued parts real cheap.. I got about two dozen CA3028's intended for a future project. They had cut, formed leads to plug into an 8 pin dip socket, otherwise prime. The're still in my parts bin and will probably get used in a rig I'm designing. As far as computer stuff goes, Jameco is about 2 years behind the state of the art as far as what they have to sell (anybody STILL building Pentium II computers, you can get your mother boards at Jameco!). |
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