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Old June 29th 04, 02:18 AM
 
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I'm testing some 10/100 ethernet transformers and I need a 50:100 ohm
balun for 30 - 80 MHz. How do I make one? (I need to measure return
losses on the transformer. The spec is LT -18 db.)
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I assume you want to measure them on a 50 ohm test system. A bit mathy, but
you could use a minimum loss T pad and include the pad's loss in the math...

For a transformer, ther turns ratio would be square root two...
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I'm testing some 10/100 ethernet transformers and I need a 50:100 ohm
balun for 30 - 80 MHz. How do I make one? (I need to measure return
losses on the transformer. The spec is LT -18 db.)



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Upon looking, I think the easiest thing to do is to buy a 50:100
balun. Something small with leads I can solder into a fixture. I found
one at TeleTech,model TT57E in a TO5 can.
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I assume you want to measure them on a 50 ohm test system. A bit mathy, but
you could use a minimum loss T pad and include the pad's loss in the math...

For a transformer, ther turns ratio would be square root two...


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Upon looking, I think the easiest thing to do is to buy a 50:100
balun. Something small with leads I can solder into a fixture. I found
one at TeleTech,model TT57E in a TO5 can.


Don't forget that it will factor into your measured data. Can't figure out
what "LT -18 dB" is...Loss Tangent doesn't make sense...

If what you want to measure is a return loss of -18 dB, then the transformer
you buy better be better than that and you'll have to measure it into the
100 ohm load and do the math if is near -18.
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I knowand itstough finding onwith return lossless than -18 db. BTW: LT
-18 db,.I meant return loss is lessthan -18 db(or below -18db).
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Upon looking, I think the easiest thing to do is to buy a 50:100
balun. Something small with leads I can solder into a fixture. I found
one at TeleTech,model TT57E in a TO5 can.


Don't forget that it will factor into your measured data. Can't figure out
what "LT -18 dB" is...Loss Tangent doesn't make sense...

If what you want to measure is a return loss of -18 dB, then the transformer
you buy better be better than that and you'll have to measure it into the
100 ohm load and do the math if is near -18.




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Old July 1st 04, 04:45 PM
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Ahhhh! Gotit! LT = Less Than... I'da used ""

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I knowand itstough finding onwith return lossless than -18 db. BTW: LT
-18 db,.I meant return loss is lessthan -18 db(or below -18db).
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:42:00 -0500, "Steve Nosko"
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wrote in message
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Upon looking, I think the easiest thing to do is to buy a 50:100
balun. Something small with leads I can solder into a fixture. I found
one at TeleTech,model TT57E in a TO5 can.


Don't forget that it will factor into your measured data. Can't figure

out
what "LT -18 dB" is...Loss Tangent doesn't make sense...

If what you want to measure is a return loss of -18 dB, then the

transformer
you buy better be better than that and you'll have to measure it into the
100 ohm load and do the math if is near -18.




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