"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...
The Magnum wrote:
Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion
are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.

Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating to
"licence conditions"
I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence... to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence? Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??
i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

Regards,
Graham

Also known as the M3/CB Fools' Licence - any 6 year old, having
no previous knowledge or experience of Ham Radio can attend a
weekend course and leave on the Monday with a licence.

The scheme is a complete joke and held in widespread
derision by any self-respecting _REAL_ Brit Radio Ham.

No 6 year old has the mathematical toolset to deal with
even the most simple of algebraic transpositions that are
necessary to deal with problems involvng Ohm's Law.

The M3 is a CB licence, nothing more, nothing less.

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

Polymath wrote:

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

huLLy wrote:
Polymath wrote:

It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!

and Citizens' Band... what a poor disgrace you are to our worldwide
associates..
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

The Magnum wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...

The Magnum wrote:

Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion

are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.


Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating to
"licence conditions"

Maybe the rules are different where you are, but in the US amateurs can
construct any of their equipment, but it *is their responsibility* to
test it and make sure it operates legally. If it doesn't they can be
held accountable by the FCC. Granted, there are few today, due to lack
of technical knowledge that can do that. It wasn't that long ago
however, that finding a ham station completely constructed by the
amateur wasn't uncommon or often surplus military gear would be modified
for use on the amateur bands. With the plug-and-talk equipment of today,
easier test with given answers that can be memorized, the technical
expertise of the amateur is sadly lacking

I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence...

In the US any ham or anyone else can legally listen in on cb frequencies.

to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence?

Since there is no requirement here for a cb license I don't suppose any
amateur would bother.

Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??

Only radios that are type accepted for cb use are legal to use on the cb
bands. There is a problem here with imported radios that have 'expanded'
channels that will also operate on the 10 meter ham band. These radios
are not 'type certified' for cb use and they are purchased by unlicensed
persons and are often used on the 10 meter band. Some time back it was a
popular thing for amateurs to take cb radios and convert them for use on
the 10 meter band, just change the crystals, peak up the circuits and
you had a nice little mobile 10 meter radio. Once modified as such the
radios were no longer type certified nor legal for cb use but perfectly
legal for amateur use.

i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

True, but there is a much larger percentage of illegal operation on the
cb band than on the amateur bands, at least here in the US. And we have
the 'freebanders' who for some strange reason think they have the right
to operate on the frequencies between the upper end of the cb band and
the lower end of 10 meters plus just about anywhere else they chose.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
The Magnum wrote:
"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
m...

The Magnum wrote:

Care to give some details like what method of SSB generation this here
radio will use? Will this be a transmitter or tranceiver? What will
the
IF frequency be? To go with your linear? So you are just another law
breaking cber I see.


Does this mean you think all CB'ers are law breakers???



No, not all chicken banders are law breakers, but a very large portion

are.

If Dr IQ is running an external linear he certainly is. If he is going
to build a cb transmitter, which will not be type accepted and put it on
the air he certainly will be.


Type approved.... hmm, its a bit of a strange one that ... which makes
me
think "type approved" for Amateur is something home made from bits of
anything.... not tested by anyone... just soldered together by an
Amateur so
it must be perfect ...right? No spurious emmisions or any interference
because the person cobbling it together is an Amateur...... Now no
disrespect here is aimed at Amateurs, just some of the laws governing
the
hobby seem to be crazy. Amateurs building their own kit and having it
tested
via some professional body before use i can accept.... but does that
ticket
mean you can build your own "boots" and use it no matter how bad it may
be
made? It seems so..... sod type approval eh. Or were you just relating
to
"licence conditions"

Maybe the rules are different where you are, but in the US amateurs can
construct any of their equipment, but it *is their responsibility* to
test it and make sure it operates legally. If it doesn't they can be
held accountable by the FCC. Granted, there are few today, due to lack
of technical knowledge that can do that. It wasn't that long ago
however, that finding a ham station completely constructed by the
amateur wasn't uncommon or often surplus military gear would be modified
for use on the amateur bands. With the plug-and-talk equipment of today,
easier test with given answers that can be memorized, the technical
expertise of the amateur is sadly lacking

Ive seen a few of the ex military gear on my frequent walks around the radio
rally meetings held in the UK at various times of the year. Ive even seen
small tanks for sale )

I know a few Amateurs who are law breakers too. Using their illegally
adapted Amateur equipment to listen in to CB frequencies i believe is a
NO
NO, unless you have a CB licence...

In the US any ham or anyone else can legally listen in on cb frequencies.

to which would Amateurs actually bother
to get a CB licence?

Since there is no requirement here for a cb license I don't suppose any
amateur would bother.

Are the radios actually legal to use on the CB bands??

Only radios that are type accepted for cb use are legal to use on the cb
bands. There is a problem here with imported radios that have 'expanded'
channels that will also operate on the 10 meter ham band. These radios
are not 'type certified' for cb use and they are purchased by unlicensed
persons and are often used on the 10 meter band. Some time back it was a
popular thing for amateurs to take cb radios and convert them for use on
the 10 meter band, just change the crystals, peak up the circuits and
you had a nice little mobile 10 meter radio. Once modified as such the
radios were no longer type certified nor legal for cb use but perfectly
legal for amateur use.

Indeed. But what i was getting at was Amateur radios that can access the CB
bands not CB's themselves. I know in the UK if an amateur wants to converse
on the 27MHz CB band he needs a CB licence.. his Amateur licence doesnt
cover him/her for it. (or whether thats just M3 im not sure) Im sure someone
will let us know.

i dont know 100% so i ask the question. We all do things from time to
time
that are deemed illegal.... so your statement on "No, not all chicken
banders are law breakers, but a very large portion are" could be said
against any group of people.

True, but there is a much larger percentage of illegal operation on the
cb band than on the amateur bands, at least here in the US. And we have
the 'freebanders' who for some strange reason think they have the right
to operate on the frequencies between the upper end of the cb band and
the lower end of 10 meters plus just about anywhere else they chose.

Whats your opinion on M3's? Do you encorage them or see them as a stain
on
Amateur radio? Im just curious by the way.

I must confess I haven't acquainted myself with M3's. Is this a test
free amateur license?

In the UK its a simple test (which only an idiot would fail) to get people
started on the Amateur bands. I think the main frequencies being 2m. Im not
sure where else they can go but its limited compaired to a full amateur and
the powers less. Most UK Amateurs are horrified that their airspace is being
invaded by these "CB type lowlife" (their words not mine) which suprises me
as i firmly believe anyone gaining their M3 licence would go on to
Intermediate... etc not stop there so i cant see why the "old hams" arent
encoraging them rather than belittling them.
http://rsgb.org.uk/beginners/ under foundation

Regards,
Graham

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:47:24 +0100, Nedlar wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:50:03 +0100, "huLLy"
wrote:


It's 'its' you ****wit!

Why don't you correct your CB chum Magnum?
His postings are typical of the semi-literate, brain-dead CBr.

Yes, but he's a Yank. Illiteracy is expected of them.

--

73 de Jock.

"You will always find that those who are most apt to
boast of national merit, have little or no merit of
their own to depend on". - Oliver Goldsmith.

In article .com,
says...
Also known as the M3/CB Fools' Licence - any 6 year old, having
no previous knowledge or experience of Ham Radio can attend a
weekend course and leave on the Monday with a licence.


So, Polymath, what have you homebrewed lately?

-- jm

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huLLy wrote:
huLLy wrote:

Polymath wrote:


It's purpose is to fill the coffers of a Brit publishing
company, the RSCB - The Radio Society for Citizen's Band.


It's 'its' you ****wit!


and Citizens' Band... what a poor disgrace you are to our worldwide
associates..

I would say the language you use makes you a much poorer disgrace to our
world wide associates than his misuse of an '.

Nedlar wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:50:03 +0100, "huLLy"
wrote:



It's 'its' you ****wit!


Why don't you correct your CB chum Magnum?
His postings are typical of the semi-literate, brain-dead CBr.

I think Magnum ask some very valid questions and makes some very valid
points.