"One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds. "

Hold on a mo. I'm a class B licence holder - G8LIR, and have been for,
oh about 30 years I think. My main interest was in fast scan ATV on 70
Cms and 23cms, and with a small team we competed in many ATV contests,
setting new (and I think unbroken) records. All our equipment was home
built - yes I do mean ALL - including narrow band ATV receivers
utilising inline cavities and integrating receivers to subtract noise
and reveal lost images when only a weak sync pulse was available. We
also DESIGNED and built the linear amplifiers using 4cx250's in push
pull, with 2kv on the anodes and tuneable cavities (not copied
designs). And, oh yes, we designed filters using laplace transforms to
calculate the correct vaues for the inductors, wound them ourselves and
tuned then with second hand spectrum analysers.

Now to me, that level of technical expertise speaks to a certain
intellectual level over a 6 year olds.

I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

Andy

wrote:

I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

The person who wrote the so-called 'faq' was himself a B licensee for
many years, before taking the morse test and getting an A. The excuse
he trotted out for this - after much prompting about the
more-than-a-decade gap between these two events - was 'an interest in
VHF/UHF techniques'.

Unfortunately for this belated post-justification, he has never
published what he accomplished in that extended period.

It is said that 'empty vessels make the most noise'.

If you want to return to the hobby, then do so and enjoy it. Do not be
put off by someone who doesn't believe there is such a thing as 'slope
detection', or who sold an FT-101 because the tune-up pages were
missing from the manual.....don't ask......

from
Aero Spike

In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew wrote:
"One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds. "

Hold on a mo. I'm a class B licence holder - G8LIR, and have been for,
oh about 30 years I think. My main interest was in fast scan ATV on 70
Cms and 23cms, and with a small team we competed in many ATV contests,
setting new (and I think unbroken) records. All our equipment was home
built - yes I do mean ALL - including narrow band ATV receivers
utilising inline cavities and integrating receivers to subtract noise
and reveal lost images when only a weak sync pulse was available. We
also DESIGNED and built the linear amplifiers using 4cx250's in push
pull, with 2kv on the anodes and tuneable cavities (not copied
designs). And, oh yes, we designed filters using laplace transforms to
calculate the correct vaues for the inductors, wound them ourselves and
tuned then with second hand spectrum analysers.

Now to me, that level of technical expertise speaks to a certain
intellectual level over a 6 year olds.

I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

Yes, indeed.

You can discount without loss anything the writer of that so-called
"FAQ" has written, is writing, or will ever write. He attempts to
demean people who have attained heights he can't even see, much less
comprehend. He has nothing to say, and insists on doing so at length.

Don't let him put you off anything. Jump in; the water's fine.

--
Mike Andrews W5EGO

Tired old sysadmin

In message .com,
writes


I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

Andy

With a G8L call I would have expected you to recognise an obvious troll
by now. You either want to get back to the hobby or you don't, if this
puts you off then frankly perhaps its not for you!

Trev G3ZYY
--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org

I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

Andy

Good man....

wrote:
I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

The point of view posted by "Orator for Decency" is not the FAQ for
this newsgroup. It is in fact the deranged rantings of one Gareth Alun
Evans, ex-G8DXY, G4SDW. He posts this "FAQ" approximately every week,
apparently trolling for trouble (and frequently finding it!) Those that
react to his FAQ are then subjected to systematic harassment.

If G4SDW learns of the employer of the individual who reacts, he makes
a nuisance of himself the
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...9?dmode=source

If G4SDW finds that the individual who reacts has a hobby outside
amateur radio, he makes a nuisance of himself in newsgroups relating to
that hobby:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...f?dmode=source

When he fails to get a reaction to the harassment described above, he
will start making offensive posts using ludicrous anagrams of the
individuals name:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e?dmode=source

But amateur radio is not Gareth's only hobbyhorse. He frequently airs
his unorthodox views on....

The Royal Family:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e=source&hl=en

The Scouts:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.re...daeabe9ee12509

July 7th 2005:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...6?dmode=source

The Armed Forces:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e?dmode=source

Don't let him put you off. Welcome back to the hobby!

73
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk

wrote:
I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

The point of view posted by "Orator for Decency" is not the FAQ for
this newsgroup. It is in fact the deranged rantings of one Gareth Alun
Evans, ex-G8DXY, G4SDW. He posts this "FAQ" approximately every week,
apparently trolling for trouble (and frequently finding it!) Those that
react to his FAQ are then subjected to systematic harassment.

If G4SDW learns of the employer of the individual who reacts, he makes
a nuisance of himself the
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...9?dmode=source

If G4SDW finds that the individual who reacts has a hobby outside
amateur radio, he makes a nuisance of himself in newsgroups relating to
that hobby:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...f?dmode=source

When he fails to get a reaction to the harassment described above, he
will start making offensive posts using ludicrous anagrams of the
individuals name:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e?dmode=source

But amateur radio is not Gareth's only hobbyhorse. He frequently airs
his unorthodox views on....

The Royal Family:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e=source&hl=en

The Scouts:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.re...daeabe9ee12509

July 7th 2005:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...6?dmode=source

The Armed Forces:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e?dmode=source

Don't let him put you off. Welcome back to the hobby!

73
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk

wrote:

"One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds. "

Hold on a mo. I'm a class B licence holder - G8LIR, and have been for,
oh about 30 years I think. My main interest was in fast scan ATV on 70
Cms and 23cms, and with a small team we competed in many ATV contests,
setting new (and I think unbroken) records. All our equipment was home
built - yes I do mean ALL - including narrow band ATV receivers
utilising inline cavities and integrating receivers to subtract noise
and reveal lost images when only a weak sync pulse was available. We
also DESIGNED and built the linear amplifiers using 4cx250's in push
pull, with 2kv on the anodes and tuneable cavities (not copied
designs). And, oh yes, we designed filters using laplace transforms to
calculate the correct vaues for the inductors, wound them ourselves and
tuned then with second hand spectrum analysers.

Now to me, that level of technical expertise speaks to a certain
intellectual level over a 6 year olds.

I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

Andy

Ignore this creep Andy.

It's people like yourself that are the lifeblood of amateur radio.

Good luck and see you on the air.

Jack

wrote in message
oups.com...
I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

Anyone care to comment ?

You'll find one in every crowd. He doesn't speak for me. Rebutting it only
adds to the noise level. Just add him to the kill file.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:10:10 GMT, Trevor Day
wrote:

With a G8L call I would have expected you to recognise an obvious troll
by now. You either want to get back to the hobby or you don't, if this
puts you off then frankly perhaps its not for you!


Beanie is not a troll Trevor... his writings on the Soham murders and
the monarchy confirm that he is of sick mind..

Peter, G3PHO