On 2006-04-18, Silfax wrote:

6" and 12" adjustable wench

oops I meant wrench, although a flexible wench might not be a bad idea
either (but she should be bigger than 12 inches....)

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mr Fed UP wrote:
Heh heh dont forget the asprin and $50 for the headache and one
tool you'll always have to go get for each job. And a 6" or 8"
knuckle buistin adjustable wrench. LOL


Don't forget a 4" pipe wrench for those tight spots! It has been a
real life saver to remove broken studs and broken pieces of bolts. I
have one made by Rigid.

BTW, you won't bust your knuckles if you buy a real wrench. 8" is too
short to get a good grip on things. I have a 12" and a 14" "New Britain"
adjustable, along with a 4" Xcelite in my electronics tools.

A common problem is to turn the adjustable wrench around the *wrong
way*! I've had people argue that there is no wrong orientation for the
common 'C' (Crescent) wrench, but there most certainly is. Do it wrong
and you'll be fine 75% of the time; but that one time when you need it
to really bite--and you do it wrong--*you* are the one who gets bitten.

The only tools I usually have to buy these days are new ones to
replace what walks away.

Boy Howdy! I recently moved my office/shop and salvaged the buildings
on the property at the same time. I'm still trying to find all my tools....

jak

Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.

How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?

jakdedert wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mr Fed UP wrote:
Heh heh dont forget the asprin and $50 for the headache and one
tool you'll always have to go get for each job. And a 6" or 8"
knuckle buistin adjustable wrench. LOL


Don't forget a 4" pipe wrench for those tight spots! It has been a
real life saver to remove broken studs and broken pieces of bolts. I
have one made by Rigid.

BTW, you won't bust your knuckles if you buy a real wrench. 8" is too
short to get a good grip on things. I have a 12" and a 14" "New Britain"
adjustable, along with a 4" Xcelite in my electronics tools.

A common problem is to turn the adjustable wrench around the *wrong
way*! I've had people argue that there is no wrong orientation for the
common 'C' (Crescent) wrench, but there most certainly is. Do it wrong
and you'll be fine 75% of the time; but that one time when you need it
to really bite--and you do it wrong--*you* are the one who gets bitten.



Yes, most people seem to use it backwards where the stress is against
the front of the movable jaw, rather than the back where its supposed to
be. It doesn't matter if the item is fairly loose, but when you really
need the torque, it needs to be turned the right way. Maybe they need
to cast notches for your fingers to show people the right way to use it!
;-)


The only tools I usually have to buy these days are new ones to
replace what walks away.

Boy Howdy! I recently moved my office/shop and salvaged the buildings
on the property at the same time. I'm still trying to find all my tools....

jak


I'm trying to but my shop back together. I haven't really worked in
the shop since the middle of 2001, right before I got sick and lost my
job. Now, its been five years and two years of hurricanes that made the
mess even worse. Some squirrels nested in the building and chewed the
cords off of everything in sight. I had to put rat poison in there to
kill them all. I'm missing two cordless drills, two surface grinders
and enough hand tools to fill a couple large toolboxes. Since I no
longer do any work away from home I have started hanging what is left on
pegboard over the different workbenches.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a
Pozidriv screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this
combination. Any decent toolbox should include some Pozidriv drivers
or bits.



*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

The flutes on a Phillips bit are tapered; on a Pozidrive they are
parallel. In many cases you can use either bit on the other, but if
available, use the correct one.

A Phillips bit can "lever" itself out due to the taper, where a
Pozidrive will not.

Bill, W6WRT
ex Tektronix employee

Joel Kolstad wrote:
Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.

How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?

In my experience, it works better than using a Phillips driver on a
Pozidriv screw. But it still doesn't fit really well.

Roy Lewallen

In article , Roy Lewallen
wrote:

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.


OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

I can see now that my original list should have stopped without the
additional items. The purpose was to define a really BASIC set of tools
for use around the home!

Fred

In article ,
Fred McKenzie wrote:

OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I haven't seen complete Pozidrive drivers anywhere around here, but
Orchard Supply (local hardware outlet) has Pozidrive bits in several
sizes, which will go into the usual magnetic-hex-socket driver
handles. In fact, just yesterday I glanced over their $2.99 "17 bits
in a small carrying case" assortment by the cash register, and found
that it contains 3 Phillips and 3 similarly-sized Pozidrive bits.

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I've kept a long, slim, scalpel (+ pack of spare blades) in my toolbox
for over 40yrs, wouldn't be without them. Can be used for cutting,
poking, as an improvised instrument probe and (if push comes to shove)
the final solution to that b****r of a problem ........ provided you
fit a new blade first !!

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?
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Most wood screws in (at least)western Europe are now posidrive ,because
the grip is so much better ,which is necessary due to the frequent use
of electric screwdrivers.

A tool company Draper are selling chromium-vanadium steel screwdrivers
in sets with coloured plastic grips (in the UK)
A set comprises 3x3 ,total of 9 screwdrivers
Flat blade : Red grip
Phillips : Blue grip (or is it Philips?)
Posidrive : Green grip

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH