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Old April 19th 06, 12:20 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
Highland Ham
 
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dick on the langwang wrote:
I've kept a long, slim, scalpel (+ pack of spare blades) in my toolbox
for over 40yrs, wouldn't be without them. Can be used for cutting,
poking, as an improvised instrument probe and (if push comes to shove)
the final solution to that b****r of a problem ........ provided you
fit a new blade first !!

===========================
Talking tools , I consider different dental 'poking'utensils and
twizzers essential for dealing with circuit boards ,especially in the
homebrewing arena. I use these frequently.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

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Old April 19th 06, 03:09 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Highland Ham wrote:
dick on the langwang wrote:
I've kept a long, slim, scalpel (+ pack of spare blades) in my toolbox
for over 40yrs, wouldn't be without them. Can be used for cutting,
poking, as an improvised instrument probe and (if push comes to shove)
the final solution to that b****r of a problem ........ provided you
fit a new blade first !!

===========================
Talking tools , I consider different dental 'poking'utensils and
twizzers essential for dealing with circuit boards ,especially in the
homebrewing arena. I use these frequently.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH


....and on medical instruments: a pair or two (or three) of locking
medical forceps are indispensable...rubber gloves are handy...syringes
are good for dispensing various compounds, especially glue.

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Old April 19th 06, 03:59 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
Michael A. Terrell
 
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dick on the langwang wrote:

I've kept a long, slim, scalpel (+ pack of spare blades) in my toolbox
for over 40yrs, wouldn't be without them. Can be used for cutting,
poking, as an improvised instrument probe and (if push comes to shove)
the final solution to that b****r of a problem ........ provided you
fit a new blade first !!



You can buy an Exacto knife a lot easier, and there are a lot of
different blades available.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Old April 25th 06, 05:02 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
...
In article , Highland Ham
wrote:

What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.


Frank-

I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly
used.

Fred


In that vein, Canadians would have Robertson screwdrivers in their basic
toolbox for home use. Described, with history, at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver .

Tom


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Old April 25th 06, 06:39 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Tom Holden wrote:

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
...
In article , Highland Ham
wrote:

What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.


Frank-

I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly
used.

Fred


In that vein, Canadians would have Robertson screwdrivers in their basic
toolbox for home use. Described, with history, at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver .

Tom


I despise Robertson screws, along with the "Clutch head" screws.
Every time I run into either of them, someone has put them in with a
worn bit that strips the head and makes them almost impossible to
remove. I've used surface grinders, drills, and a cutting torch to
remove them to make repairs. I generally replace them with hex head
screws and make sure that I always inspect the bit before I start a job.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


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Old April 25th 06, 07:23 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:39:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I've used surface grinders, drills, and a cutting torch to
remove them to make repairs.


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Often a Dremel tool with a thin grinding wheel will allow you to make
a slot and then use a regular screwdriver to remove it.

Bill, W6WRT

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Old April 25th 06, 07:32 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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I've never seen anything with a posidrive screw in it.. They aren't used
very much in the USA or at least in Florida... I have yet to need a
posidrive screwdriver and I've taken all kinds of things apart in my life..
I consider a good set of torx and allen wrenches a necessity along with a
set of sockets and wrenches and of course a small set of jewlers
screwdrivers and mini torx bits, hammers, saws, etc...

The funny thing is I never knew what that weird looking phillips bit I had
was called until today.

- Mike

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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In article , Roy Lewallen
wrote:

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.



OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

I can see now that my original list should have stopped without the
additional items. The purpose was to define a really BASIC set of tools
for use around the home!

Fred



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Old April 25th 06, 07:34 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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I hate those stupid robitson bits too... Like you said they always seem to
be stripped off...


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Holden wrote:

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
...
In article , Highland Ham
wrote:

What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type
of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct
word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.

Frank-

I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett
Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more
commonly
used.

Fred


In that vein, Canadians would have Robertson screwdrivers in their basic
toolbox for home use. Described, with history, at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver .

Tom


I despise Robertson screws, along with the "Clutch head" screws.
Every time I run into either of them, someone has put them in with a
worn bit that strips the head and makes them almost impossible to
remove. I've used surface grinders, drills, and a cutting torch to
remove them to make repairs. I generally replace them with hex head
screws and make sure that I always inspect the bit before I start a job.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida



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Old April 25th 06, 07:43 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:32:43 -0400, "Michael Kennedy"
wrote:

I've never seen anything with a posidrive screw in it.. They aren't used
very much in the USA or at least in Florida...


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Tektronix used Pozidriv for many years in their scopes. Sometime after
I left the company in 1986 I was told they changed to Torx.

You can recognize a Pozidriv screw because it looks like a Phillips
but has a fine line scribed between adjacent flutes.

Bill, W6WRT

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Old April 25th 06, 09:06 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Bill Turner wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:39:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I've used surface grinders, drills, and a cutting torch to
remove them to make repairs.


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Often a Dremel tool with a thin grinding wheel will allow you to make
a slot and then use a regular screwdriver to remove it.

Bill, W6WRT


Yes, sometimes, or even a fine toothed blade in a hacksaw, but not
when you are standing on top of a ladder and struggling to reach the
crappy hardware. The moron who built my four car garage used 4" or
longer Robertson screws everywhere, and most of the heads were puled
below the surface before the #2 bit slipped and chewed up the head. I
broke two crowbars removing a dangerous hanging rack he's built to hold
plywood above one of the bays. Both were flimsy, and they hung low
enough that you could bump your head on exposed screw points sticking an
inch though the bottom 2*4 beams. I had to remove and replace a lot of
lumber that split because of the way he screwed things up.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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