On Jan 28, 12:47 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in ...

[snip]

What is objectionable is that there are several people who seem to feel a
need to stoop to name calling, profanity, vulgarity, ad hominem attacks and
so on rather than indulge in the simple pleasure of debate.

Dee Flint you are one of those offender

You will notice that the most vehement of those opposing the moderated news
group are those that have the worst behavior. It seems that all they really
want is to insure that they have targets to continue their tactics.

ah yes everyone that disagrees is eveil and an offender

same stuff from the code wars

Of course we could just filter them but every few days you have to add
another as they keep coming up with new IDs. My killfile is huge these
days.

Dee, N8UZE

an_old_friend wrote:

...
Dee Flint you are one of those offender
You will notice that the most vehement of those opposing the moderated news
group are those that have the worst behavior. It seems that all they really
want is to insure that they have targets to continue their tactics.

ah yes everyone that disagrees is eveil and an offender

same stuff from the code wars
Of course we could just filter them but every few days you have to add
another as they keep coming up with new IDs. My killfile is huge these
days.

Dee, N8UZE


AOF:

Dee is one of the few which has managed to keep some perspective.
Please do NOT name call or abuse Dee. I would suspect her one of the
"most capable" of accepting our new licensees ...

Dee engages in discussion, that speaks volumes about the caliber of this
woman, I like what I see, think about it, don't you?

You will make no friend here if you continue attacks upon her ...

Regards,
JS

"John Smith I" wrote in message
...
an_old_friend wrote:

...
Dee Flint you are one of those offender
You will notice that the most vehement of those opposing the moderated
news
group are those that have the worst behavior. It seems that all they
really
want is to insure that they have targets to continue their tactics.

ah yes everyone that disagrees is eveil and an offender

same stuff from the code wars
Of course we could just filter them but every few days you have to add
another as they keep coming up with new IDs. My killfile is huge these
days.

Dee, N8UZE


AOF:

Dee is one of the few which has managed to keep some perspective. Please
do NOT name call or abuse Dee. I would suspect her one of the "most
capable" of accepting our new licensees ...

Dee engages in discussion, that speaks volumes about the caliber of this
woman, I like what I see, think about it, don't you?

You will make no friend here if you continue attacks upon her ...

Regards,
JS

What can I say but Thank You.

Dee, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:

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What can I say but Thank You.

Dee, N8UZE



Dee:

Don't thank me, you did that yourself. Your past posts to me on "proper
elmer-ing of the youngsters" immediately pop to my mind ...

Regards,
JS

wrote:

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atckks I merely point she has enaged in the behavoir she oposes most
of us Have some more so than others
Regards,
JS
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/


Mark:

Now is the time to look at what common goals we can share. What
benefits and what detracts from amateur radio. Now is the time for
truth and logical discussion. Now is the time to allow people to
re-think past thinking and behaviors ...

And, yes, now is the time to forgive. None of us, including myself,
have been perfect ...

Let us rethink our past behaviors and band together to chase out forces
who would still work to lead us astray. Let what has gone before, be no
more.

Regards,
JS

wrote:

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for me no the time is not yet here

not till I KNOW for a fact something I can't know for a fact till it
happens, I expect to begin serious collection of that shortly after
the 23 of feb (depending on weather allowing me access to a VE
session,

need I explain further?
...

Mark:

Let me make the "picture" as clear as I can, as short as I can ...

You either choose to be part of the problem, or you will choose to be
part of the solution ...

Now choose ...

Regards,
JS

wrote:
Universities and the public would be better served with teachers
having a Masters degree and real work experience... instead of a bunch
of bickering eggheads who've never had to earn a living.

Master's degrees are acceptable for a lot of university
teaching jobs. However, Bachelor's degrees alone are often
not acceptable.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Michael Black wrote:
It would take a pretty incapable person to not be able to tell the difference
between what was on-topic and what doesn't belong.

So is a discussion on the nature of the quantum structure
of empty space on-topic for an antenna group?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Dee Flint wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I'm not convinced that the moderators for this proposed newsgroup actually
need to be hams. Some guy walking in off the street is just as capable
as making most of those judgements as anyone else. The caveat being
that their unfamiliarity with the hobby might make them let things slip
through, when they didn't know the difference between amateur radio and
CB or something else. But even then, that's not tied to needing a piece
of paper, it's tied to whether someone is familiar enough with the hobby.

I would argue that there is a bias in even making an analogy to higher
learning. Because there is something about the tone of all this proposed
newsgroup that sure seems to place it in academia, and I'm not convinced
that is a good thing.

Michael VE2BVW


I would agree that the moderators only really need to be people of good
judgment.

I agree to a point.

I would also add that they should be knowledgeable about the subject,
and willing to require proof of claims made by posters.

For example, some time back, it was posted here that *all* amateurs
whose
licenses were expired but in the grace period could continue to
operate.
The reality is that such operation is a violation of FCC rules unless
the
licensee has filed for renewal.

Someone who is not familiar with the rules might accept that mistake
as fact,
and allow it to be posted unchallenged. Not a good thing.

None of us really object to off-topic posts to any great degree.
What is objectionable is that there are several people who seem to feel a
need to stoop to name calling, profanity, vulgarity, ad hominem attacks and
so on rather than indulge in the simple pleasure of debate.

I agree 100%.

You will notice that the most vehement of those opposing the moderated news
group are those that have the worst behavior. It seems that all they really
want is to insure that they have targets to continue their tactics.

I am convinced that, for some the "pleasure of debate" consists almost
entirely of those attacks.

Of course we could just filter them but every few days you have to add
another as they keep coming up with new IDs. My killfile is huge these
days.

Exactly.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Cecil Moore wrote:

...
Master's degrees are acceptable for a lot of university
teaching jobs. However, Bachelor's degrees alone are often
not acceptable.

Cecil:

Why that Masters may make you suitable for the position, if a suitable
doctorate shows up--hes' got the job ...

Too bad too, I have met a lot of Masters I would like to work with, more
so than the disagreeable doctorate they hired

Regards,
JS