"Dee Flint" wrote:

With so many having internet access these days, it's not hard to find the
FISTS calling frequencies.

Yeah, but how many people KNOW about FISTS to begin with?

Frankly, the first time I heard about them was in this newsgroup.

The Novice subbands are much more "well known" than FISTS or their calling
frequencies.


However, I'd recommend to the new people that they be the ones to call CQ.
Since the courteous thing to do is to answer a CQ at the speed it is sent,
they have a very good chance of getting someone who will slow down for
them.

Whenever I operate in the novice subbands, I always send CQ at 7-10wpm. I
figure a little faster will help the folks I communicate with get their
speed up, but I certainly slow down if requested.

just my .02

73
kh6hz

wrote:

likely to be worse if Dee is correct in forming us that the novice cw
bands have had general phone pushed into them for phone ops
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

and then later attempted to recant with:

corection to your corection I said nothing about licesne class



You most certainly did say "general phone".

On Feb 9, 5:26 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote:
That didn't work so well for me 20 years ago, why would it be any
different today?

Attitude.

I don't think so. My attitude about the code was much better when I
was a Novice.

On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?

On Feb 9, 7:42 pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:

On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?

Get a life and put up an antenna Burke.

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code
test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?


Not universal enough as Techs and Generals cannot operate there.

Dee, N8UZE

On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

?Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

?So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

Counterproposal:

For Casey's concept to work the QRS freqs should be where the CW
activity lives in it's largest volumes 24/7. 40M any time but mostly
at night and 20M anytime but mostly during daylight hours.

It's unreasonable to expect slocode learners and elmers to latch up
reliably on more than a couple bands at most. So there goes 80, 15,
10M and the WARC bands.

7.050 at the top of the hour and 14.050 at the half hour marks.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv










73 de Jim, N2EY

On Feb 9, 10:09 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...



On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code
test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?

Not universal enough as Techs and Generals cannot operate there.

He knows that Dee, ignore him, he's just being a mindless jerk as
usual

Dee, N8UZE

w3rv

On Feb 9, 11:47?pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:

On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

?Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

?So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

Counterproposal:

For Casey's concept to work the QRS freqs should be where the CW
activity lives in it's largest volumes 24/7. 40M any time but mostly
at night and 20M anytime but mostly during daylight hours.

Techs and Novices don't have 20. Late at night
even 40 gets iffy.

It's unreasonable to expect slocode learners and elmers to latch up
reliably on more than a couple bands at most. So there goes 80, 15,
10M and the WARC bands.

At this time of the sunspot cycle, 80 is the most reliable after
dark.

Novices and Techs don't have the WARC bands so they're not a good
choice.

7.050 at the top of the hour and 14.050 at the half hour marks.

Works for me. Plus 3.550 on the quarter hours

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Feb 9, 11:55 pm, wrote:
On 9 Feb 2007 20:54:01 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:09 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message

roups.com...
How 'bout 14.007?

Not universal enough as Techs and Generals cannot operate there.

He knows that Dee, ignore him, he's just being a mindless jerk as
usual

you are being your normal insulting ass but that is ok for an extra op
right

Correct. Kelly the Cubby Bootlegger can hurl insults because he is
untouchable. He is an Extra.

The significance of 14.007? None other than that's where the elitists
hang out.