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![]() "John Smith I" wrote in message ... wrote: ... To those who say "NAY! NEVER!" I award the venerable "cat-ass-trophy." Len: I think all whos' only purpose is for the continuation of amateur radio in a relevant and up-to-date manner will agree, logical questions, exams, examiners, methods and procedures need to be established, followed, and upheld--and, especially in regards to realignment with present rules and regulations. Attrition should continue on at its' accelerating pace and shortly remove any doubt as to the death of morse. CW is a problem which has fittingly supplied its' own fix and is now engaged in implementing that fix (death.) Do you call yourself an amateur operator? Do you have problems with loyalty? Interesting how you have no problem smearing the very people who have kept the service alive. So, maybe you're not even loyal to your own mother. Who cares? All new hams need only be aware of the past sins of arrl and the fanatic devotion to CW and personalities as opposed to principals which has caused cat-ass-trophy-type-damage to amateur radio and to steer clear of the arrl or any movements to re-establish some pseudo-class system amongst amateurs and thereby replace the "CW class system" with a new and equally insane and damaging one. Ha ha, yes, like a written test. And do you think your buddy LA could even hope to pass today's element 4? I don't think this alleged IEEE illuminati could pass extra anymore. He's too retired...been out of the business for too long. He still calls a capacitor a condenser and a tube a valve. The test has become a better filter than morse code, (for extra only). Let's move on to fixing the general class test. Len is stuck in the past, recirting the history of radio science and denigrating the use of morse code which has long become a moot issue (science the institution of 5 wpm no code). I find it interesting that you and Len want to trash the old yet you both still communicate via usenet. I mean, isn't there something newer you could go to, like blogs? We need history to help us avoid making the same old mistakes anew ... Hahahaha...good one. The old-timers need to be avoided like the plague. Yes, out with the old, in with the new, from the very same people who brought you jobs outsourcing and illegal immigration, Al Gore and global warming. Those old paradigms ain't no good anymore. Time to ruin the culture. The old failed methods and tactics need to be avoided. The future needs to meet up with amateur radio and bring it to life in the new millennium. Unfortunately, today's EE graduate learn nothing about analog design. They cannot even design a linear power supply much less a switch mode. And to think of them trying to design an SSB transmitter or even a linear amp! If it's not prepackaged on a chip, throw it away. Digital rules. SW |
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Stefan Wolfe wrote:
[a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. My interests in electronics and things relating to electronics have also held my interests and "loyalties." However, electronics have evolved. Most of the electronic "gear" I now work with is never meant to be built, maintained nor repaired by human hands. It is meant to grow obsolete in a matter of years and be replaced. When amateur radio becomes current, its' gear will be of a likewise state. Things change. Amateur radio does not exist in a vacuum, it must adapt also. It has been held hostage by a relative few who have stalled its' advancement. However, it always has been subject to the same rules which govern all: Adapt and evolve or become extinct. Now, at this brink of extinction, it is time for change ... and no one likes change but a wet baby--and even they often cry when the change is implemented ... All of us will die, let amateur radio live on and eventually reach a state where none alive today would ever recognize it, but most of all, let it become relevant and important and of valid use to those of the future who we will never meet. Let us leave them something they can thank us for. JS |
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![]() "John Smith I" wrote in message ... Stefan Wolfe wrote: [a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. You are only loyal to your own cause. damn the rest of the world. "It's all about me." |
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Stefan Wolfe wrote:
You are only loyal to your own cause. damn the rest of the world. "It's all about me." Blame it on the design of the species. Even when one is benevolent, it is because one gets pleasure from being benevolent. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Feb 22, 3:59�pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
"John Smith I" wrote in ... Stefan Wolfe wrote: [a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. *Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. *I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. You are only loyal to your own cause. damn the rest of the world. "It's all about me." Oh! Understand. It is all about YOU! :-) Everyone MUST be loyal to YOUR opinions? LA |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:59:54 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote: "John Smith I" wrote in message ... Stefan Wolfe wrote: [a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. You are only loyal to your own cause. damn the rest of the world. "It's all about me." Actually, I think that, if you look really close, you would see that it was the rest of the world who advanced before we did in this particular instance. We have just caught up. |
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On Feb 23, 6:25�am, Bob Brock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:59:54 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote: "John Smith I" wrote in message ... Stefan Wolfe wrote: [a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. *Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. *I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. You are only loyal to your own cause. damn the rest of the world. "It's all about me." Actually, I think that, if you look really close, you would see that it was the rest of the world who advanced before we did in this particular instance. *We have just caught up. True enough. The USA wasn't even "second best." In fact, it wasn't even twentieth best. LA |
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On Feb 21, 11:56�pm, John Smith I wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote: * [a LOT of stuff I clipped] Yes. *Yes I am loyal to amateur radio. However, I am not loyal to antique radio gear, nor antiquated methods, beliefs and practices. *I am NOT loyal to personalities, but DAMN LOYAL to principals, advancement and progress. OK so far - as long as there's room for the old as well as the new. My interests in electronics and things relating to electronics have also held my interests and "loyalties." Same here. *However, electronics have evolved. Most of the electronic "gear" I now work with is never meant to be built, maintained nor repaired by human hands. * It is meant to grow obsolete in a matter of years and be replaced. * What used to be called "planned obsolescence". Not a new idea at all the term has been around more than 50 years. Is planned obsolescence a good thing? When amateur radio becomes current, its' gear will be of a likewise state. Is that really in our best interests? Things change. * *Some* things change. And not all change is for the better. Amateur radio does not exist in a vacuum, it must adapt also. *It has been held hostage by a relative few who have stalled its' advancement. You mean the FCC. *However, it always has been subject to the same rules which govern all: *Adapt and evolve or become extinct. Ever hear of a fish called the coelecanth? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelecanth The oldest fossil coelecanths date back 410 million years. Coelecanths were though to have gone extinct more than 65 million years ago - until living specimens were found... How did they survive so long without changing? There are lots of other examples. Evolution is more complex than "Adapt and evolve or become extinct." Now, at this brink of extinction, it is time for change ... and no one likes change but a wet baby--and even they often cry when the change is implemented ... What brink of extinction? There are over 650,000 hams in the USA alone. And I, for one, do like change - if it's change for the better. All of us will die, let amateur radio live on and eventually reach a state where none alive today would ever recognize it, but most of all, let it become relevant and important and of valid use to those of the future who we will never meet. *Let us leave them something they can thank us for. Such as? Jim, N2EY |
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From: on 22 Feb 2007 16:38:35 -0800
On Feb 21, 11:56?pm, John Smith I wrote: Stefan Wolfe wrote: Ever hear of a fish called the coelecanth? I've seen a Fish Called Wanda...enjoyable comedy. Are coelecanths good with garlic butter? The oldest fossil coelecanths date back 410 million years. Coelecanths were though to have gone extinct more than 65 million years ago - until living specimens were found... How can a fish "were though to have gone extinct?" Are you thinking? Have you any thoughts on it? How did they survive so long without changing? They were morse code qualified? They were members of the ACLU [Ancient Coelecanth Longevity Union, Oldington, CT] ? There are lots of other examples. Evolution is more complex than "Adapt and evolve or become extinct." They became code-tested amateur extras and reached immortality? Now, at this brink of extinction, it is time for change ... and no one likes change but a wet baby--and even they often cry when the change is implemented ... What brink of extinction? There are over 650,000 hams in the USA alone. Other than yourself, how many are coelecanths? Are any of them coelecans? And I, for one, do like change - if it's change for the better. Tsk, ancient coelecanth, you've stated over and over that elimination of the US amateur radio code test is a BAD THING. Bad, bad...go sit in corner. The CHANGE was obviously not a good one to you. Did they find you in Woods Hole? Do you know what time it is on your Fossil watch? LA? |
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