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On Mar 10, 1:02 pm, Dave Heil wrote:
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On Mar 10, 11:07 am, Dave Heil wrote:
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On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]
So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.
Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.
Dee, N8UZE
Fair enough.
I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.
That is all.
I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.
Sometimes? Don't hold back. What do you think of me the rest of the
time?

I wasn't writing about the rest of the time. I expressed my view
concisely.


Nothing was said about your inability to express a view concisely.
And I asked for you to cover all of the bases.


At your request, I expanded my remarks. Happy?

Since you've asked: Much of the time, you write like an
insecure fellow with a chip on his shoulder.


See? I knew you could do it. All it took was a little gentle
coaxing.


I didn't expose any secrets. Nothing I wrote about you was not known
earlier.

There have been occasions
though, when you've posted something in a fairly rational manner.

To ascribe some sinister motivation to Dee Flint is at best, absurd.


Dee was an unwitting accomplice in Robesin's plan.


My view is that if there is an unwitting accomplice, it is you. Who is
Robesin?

She could have
snipped that part out if she had read it and understood what she was
reading.


What was her requirement to do so? Dee made no derogatory comments
about the head case in Michigan. Mark's claims about Dee's actions and
your statements are erroneous and ridiculous.

Dave K8MN
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On Mar 11, 8:29?am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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Perhaps this was the same VE team that tested the 4 1/2 year old?


I doubt it.


Yes, I realize that. Unfortunately there is no emoticon for
"tongue-in-cheek".


How about this one:

;-^


His proposed "cure" for that "problem" was to
propose that no one under the age of 14 years
be allowed to earn a US amateur radio license.


Why would one suggest a "cure" for a non-existant "problem"?

I can think of a couple of reasons:

1) Doesn't like children, or doesn't want to deal with them.

2) Doesn't want amateur radio to be "G-rated".

3) Thinks radio should be an adults-only activity.
(There's a quote to this effect).

4) Wants to cut off a source of new amateurs

5) Wants to spite those amateurs who were
licensed at an early age. (I earned my Novice
at age 13, Technician and Advanced at 14, and Extra at 16. The only
reason I took me to 16 to get
the Extra was the old 2 year experience rule.)

6) Is jealous of the accomplishments of young
amateurs

7) Believes that young people learn Morse Code
more easily, and are more likely to become
skilled in its use and actually use it as radio
amateurs. Cutting off the supply of young, Morse-
Code-skilled amateurs at the source is one way to
fight the *use* of the mode.

How's that?

As for "bitter old geezers", there's never been any
sort of age requirement, maximum or minimum, for
any class of US amateur radio license.


However, should there be periodic retesting, such as with driver's licenses?


Possibly. The problem is that such retesting would
place a burden both on the licensees and the VE
system.

It would be a shame, for instance, if a geezer's amplifer malfunctioned,
arc'd over to his oxygen bottle, and an explosion resulted.


Yes, that would be a shame.

Ex-KG6IRO, who lived less than 25 miles from AF6AY
and was recently sentenced to seven years in prison
for radio-related crimes, is well past retirement age.
So is the unlicensed person in Florida (Flippo?) who
is still behind bars IIRC.


Seems to happen a lot, unfortunately.


Actually it's quite rare. But it's certainly a lot
more common
than such violations by young amateurs.

Just think how embittered you would be if you had to wait 80 years to get
your ham ticket.


Heck, I'd be embittered if I'd had to wait until I was
14 years old!

AF6AY did not have to wait 80 years, however. When *he* was young,
there was no age requirement. He wants to impose a requirement
that *he* did not have to deal with.

He has always been eligible to get an amateur radio license. He could
have earned an amateur
radio license whenever he wanted. He *chose*
to wait all those years.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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On Mar 11, 12:18 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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Is Michigan one of those states? You need to check your facts before
running your mouth.


Immaterial. Mark could easily travel to VT, MA, NJ, or any other state which
offers same-sex marriages.


It isn't legal in his state of residence. You just keep running that
mouth, doncha?

Mark *is* capable of travelling, isn't he?


Moreso than you. You live vicariously through other people's PO
Boxes.


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On Mar 11, 12:03 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...

wrote:


Dee was an unwitting accomplice in Robesin's plan. She could have
snipped that part out if she had read it and understood what she was
reading.


More rubbish.


Besides it's not my job to edit Steve's posts simply to make other's happy.


That's easy to say when you are not the target of Robesin's attacks.

I was replying sole to the error.


Which one? Robesin made several.

When I have the time to do some snipping,
I'll do so on longer posts but don't bother on shorter ones as it's not
worth the effort.

Dee, N8UZE


So if Robesin's attacks are short and sweet, you're good with it?

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On Mar 11, 10:38 am, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 11, 9:35 am, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
groups.com...
On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
roups.com...
On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:


How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double
spaced


The report was completed back when I said I made it.


I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer


I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:


You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.


Oh my gosh gee whiz there Bry You stated previously that you reported
this
to the Ohio AG.


No. You jumped to a conclusion because you're a paranoid little
freak. I let you work under a false assumption all this time.


I did HHmmmm


Yep. You did. Are you now admitting to harassing behavio[u]r?

This post from your stubby little fingered keyboard sez you're
wrong


Nope, it proves I'm right.

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On Feb 10, 11:38 am, "Dean M" wrote:

why? don;t you like getting male


"Getting male?" Are you a pervert?

Suspicious US mail is opened by the postal inspector.

Suspicious packages from other carriers get opened by the Sheriff.

Harassing emails are both forwarded to the state attorney general, and
printed and mailed to the attorney general.

Your stalking is now documented. Proceed at your own risk. Best of
Luck.

Note the mention of attorney general at least twice


I see what I wrote. Do you see what I wrote?

Now you back pedal and state you reported to my ISP. Which
one is the truth there Bry? Taking lessions from Marcus Stupideous I C.


No backpedalling. I'm just not responsible for how your freaky little
mind works.


Backpedaliing. Classic example Now you'll refute


No backpedalling. See what I wrote. Understand what I wrote. Then
compare it to your actions.

No problem, My ISP, if indeeed I am posting from them gave you comlaint
the
same weight and thoght as I imagine the Ohio AG did NONE!!!! ha ha he he


I never contacted the AG's office. You made that assumption up all by
yourself.


See above


Yep. I see above. Do you see above?

Oh that's right You're Bluster Man.


I am? I've never claimed to be him.

Say one thing but don't do another.


Huh? It's supposed to be, "Say one thing but DO another."

Kinda like when monkeys bear their teeth in an attempt to bluster
their way out of a situation.


Monkey's "bare" "thier" teeth.

Are you bearing your teeth right now Bluster
Man??


Am I Mr. Riff-Ralph?

You make me raff


You make yourself riff and raff.


You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.


How can you be harrassed in a public forum there BRY? No one forces you
to
read anything, no one forces you you to reply. Taking lessons from thae
ither trained monkey Marcus Idiotous I C


You you make all kinds of assumptions. Too bad for you.


You continue to operate under false assumptions. Too bad for you.

Feel free to report me to the FCC as well there Bry. I am sure they'll
give
you the same consideration as the others


Nah. I'll wait for you to really screw up, then... "Dialing..."


You very funny man, you make me raff or on this case ralph


So now you're claiming to be Riff-Ralph? How appropriate.


That's you're claim Phineas T.


Awww. You act stupid and now it's my fault?

Ta ta Turtle man give my regards to the rest of the Bizzaro people


Hey Bry could be a new Batman villian... Bluster Man a villian who
attempts to defaet his enemies with lies, inneuendo and various blustery
phrases


Maybe you should go back to Michigan there Bry, I am sure Marcus
Deviatous
would puit you up


It's been fun Have a week


Sayonara Mr. Riff-Ralph.


Sayonara Mr. Rfff-Ralph.



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On Mar 11, 12:34 pm, wrote:
On Mar 11, 8:14?am, wrote:
On Mar 10, 9:59 pm, wrote:


Jim, N2EY- Hide quoted text -


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Jim, get over yourself.


What would you have me do, Mr. "Cheese"? (I'd use your
name and/or callsign, but you don't include either in your
postings.)


(Shhhh. I'm working undercover for Riley.)

It seems you want me to stop posting the facts here,
particularly when you don't like the facts presented.


Most thinking people know enough to smile and move on. Like some of
the things Mark says.

Is it really worth a mailing campaign to his neighbors and neighboring
hams? Does that make you feel better?

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On Mar 10, 5:37 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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A quick search of Chassel, MI shows 19 licensed amateurs, 1 of which you
live with.


so?


You can't claim someone "lied" simply because their figures are different.


You can't? Tell that to Jim.

You could also claim that there are 600K+ licensed amateurs in your "area",
depending on how large of an "area" you want to use.


You could also claim they are all in Jeff Hermann's PO Box. And you'd
almost be right.

that is not the region from which the VE';s of the area are drawn


It is safe to say that in areas with low population density, there will be
an equally low number of licensed amateurs.


In this group it's never safe to say anything. Just the facts, Ma'am.

Of those licensed amateurs, only
1/6th of them are likely to be Extra-class operators.


So there cannot be enclaves of Extra class hams who are mostly VE's?

If so then there can't be two (2) four and a half year olds (4.5)
passing amateur exams.

They don't fit the normal distribution.

What are their callsigns?


why so you can harrass thme further


Translation: I don't want to say 'cuz then they'd refute my claims I was
discriminated against, and I can't be a victim any longer.


Translation: Mike is out to get Mark.

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On Mar 10, 8:36 pm, wrote:
On 10 Mar 2007 16:32:33 -0800, wrote:

On Mar 10, 4:22 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote:
whoe ever it was lied about the hams of in area i n number


How, exactly?


A quick search of Chassel, MI shows 19 licensed amateurs, 1 of which you
live with.


A quick search of one Jeff Hermann's PO Box used to show what?


C'mon Mad Dog Mike, you of all people should know that you don't have
to reside in Chassel, MI to be a VE there.


I spuse I confused stave when I said Local as oposed to
houghton/hancock area


With Robesin it wouldn't have mattered.

and mike just followed suit


He smelled blood in the water.

For the record I have never asked for session in chassell but one in
Houghton in the same room that can be used by Husky ARS members and
CCARS member almost anytime (if MTU is hosting some conference
restrictions aplly)http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/


For teh record, these guys just want to hang you.

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On Mar 11, 9:29 am, wrote:
On 11 Mar 2007 06:27:11 -0700, wrote:

On Mar 11, 4:55 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of irate applicants posing a threat to
the Volunteer Examiners.


I stand corrected.


Wouldn't that be a good reason for VEs to "pack heat"?


The RF Commando's will deal with any such issues!


amazing how fast he and steve get to tlaking about gunshttp://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/


Compensating...

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wrote in message
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On 11 Mar 2007 10:27:30 -0700, wrote:

On Mar 11, 10:38 am, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 11, 9:35 am, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
groups.com...
On Mar 10, 8:32 pm, "Dean M" wrote:
wrote in message
roups.com...
On Mar 10, 11:29 am, "Dean M" wrote:

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words
double
spaced

The report was completed back when I said I made it.

I so doubt that. You're all bluster like your trainer

I so don't care. But here's an interesting little factoid so that
you'll sleep better at night:

You asked for my State's Attorney General and I gave his info to
you,
but I had merely reported you to your ISP.

Oh my gosh gee whiz there Bry You stated previously that you
reported
this
to the Ohio AG.

No. You jumped to a conclusion because you're a paranoid little
freak. I let you work under a false assumption all this time.

I did HHmmmm


Yep. You did. Are you now admitting to harassing behavio[u]r?

This post from your stubby little fingered keyboard sez you're
wrong


Nope, it proves I'm right.


indeeed unless (after the quoted message

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
From:
Date: 10 Feb 2007 18:52:28 -0800
Local: Sun, Feb 11 2007 2:52 am
Subject: Schlecks' Schlock!
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On Feb 10, 11:38 am, "Dean M" wrote:

why? don;t you like getting male

"Getting male?" Are you a pervert?

Suspicious US mail is opened by the postal inspector.

Suspicious packages from other carriers get opened by the Sheriff.

Harassing emails are both forwarded to the state attorney general, and
printed and mailed to the attorney general.

Your stalking is now documented. Proceed at your own risk. Best of
Luck.

Note the mention of attorney general at least twice


I see what I wrote. Do you see what I wrote?


.....did dean send you harrassing email?


nope, wouldn't waste the time, besides, a private e-mail wuldn't allow
everyone else the ability to see good ol Mr Bluster in action

Whay have fun with invitations all around to join in watching the Circus
side show. It's more fun to see "superior intellect" with a group than a
one on one, even if that's your sort of thin


if did then you did or did forward and report him or then maybe you
could be lying


definitely the former and complete true about the latter, or is it the other
way around. Either case, Ol Phineas T was all bluster or as you'll say, he
am a lier

he's not the notorious Batman villian Mr Bluster for nothing




Now you back pedal and state you reported to my ISP. Which
one is the truth there Bry? Taking lessions from Marcus Stupideous I
C.

No backpedalling. I'm just not responsible for how your freaky little
mind works.

Backpedaliing. Classic example Now you'll refute


No backpedalling. See what I wrote. Understand what I wrote. Then
compare it to your actions.

No problem, My ISP, if indeeed I am posting from them gave you
comlaint
the
same weight and thoght as I imagine the Ohio AG did NONE!!!! ha ha
he he

I never contacted the AG's office. You made that assumption up all by
yourself.

See above


Yep. I see above. Do you see above?

Oh that's right You're Bluster Man.


I am? I've never claimed to be him.

Say one thing but don't do another.


Huh? It's supposed to be, "Say one thing but DO another."

Kinda like when monkeys bear their teeth in an attempt to bluster
their way out of a situation.


Monkey's "bare" "thier" teeth.

Are you bearing your teeth right now Bluster
Man??


Am I Mr. Riff-Ralph?

You make me raff

You make yourself riff and raff.

You jump to conclusions then harass me when the AG office doesn't
check on you. What an idiot.

How can you be harrassed in a public forum there BRY? No one forces
you
to
read anything, no one forces you you to reply. Taking lessons from
thae
ither trained monkey Marcus Idiotous I C

You you make all kinds of assumptions. Too bad for you.


You continue to operate under false assumptions. Too bad for you.


and blame others for his mistakes


Sorry Marcus Ridiculous , we can't all emulate you and be Professional
Victims


Feel free to report me to the FCC as well there Bry. I am sure
they'll
give
you the same consideration as the others

Nah. I'll wait for you to really screw up, then... "Dialing..."

You very funny man, you make me raff or on this case ralph

So now you're claiming to be Riff-Ralph? How appropriate.

That's you're claim Phineas T.


Awww. You act stupid and now it's my fault?


of course it is juist like with Robeson

Ta ta Turtle man give my regards to the rest of the Bizzaro people

Hey Bry could be a new Batman villian... Bluster Man a villian who
attempts to defaet his enemies with lies, inneuendo and various
blustery
phrases

Maybe you should go back to Michigan there Bry, I am sure Marcus
Deviatous
would puit you up

It's been fun Have a week

Sayonara Mr. Riff-Ralph.


Sayonara Mr. Rfff-Ralph.


too bad we can't realy say goodbye to his ilk



You could, trying putting your head in the oven, playing with a loaded gun,
catching moving cars out on the freeway. There are loads of ways for you to
say good bye

Please feel to try several until you succeed


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