On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote

As if there's something wrong with being in favor of
Morse Code - not the test, the mode itself.

The TEST.

Pretty much. A textbook example of how a large segment of the "No Code
Agenda" isn't about simply removing the code test, but instead is interested
in destroying the mode itself, due to some irrational hatred of the mode of
operation.

The TEST.

The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of
Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm
of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and
could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain
their Extra-class license.

Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE?

I am reminded of someone who accused certain
VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over
the license testing of a young amateur,

I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't
even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation.

I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
with the licensing process.

Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was
enough for me.

73
kh6hz

How many COLEM exams?

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On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]



So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.



Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.

Dee, N8UZE

Fair enough.

I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.

That is all.

I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.

Dave K8MN

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Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

Am I a pro-code test advocate?

For the vast majority of people (say, those who are not severely mentally
retarded), the 5wpm is a trivial examination. It involves little more than a
mental table lookup... "Dadidadit..... ummm... that's a C'".

Of course, there are always exceptions, and that's why VE teams could do a
variety of things to aid people in passing their code examination (changing
the tone of the tape, giving people more time to write things down during
the test, etc. I'm sure Dee could tell us more on how VE teams can
accomodate folks).

Memorizing the table requires some effort... but in reality probably little
more effort than people put into 'memorizing' the question pools prior to
taking an examination.


And exactly how does the 5WPM Exam disqualify them from being a VE?

Did I state somewhere that a 5wpm examination disqualified them from being a
VE? I must have missed that, or typed in invisible ink. I can't see it in my
original posting.


I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I wouldn't know who world-famous DXers are. Virtually all my contacts are
stateside. Never been much of a DX chaser myself.


I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

Who might that be? Can you give an example how these folks tell "others how
to live their amateur lives"?

Perhaps (for example purposes only) you mean some of these amateurs may have
filed comments with the FCC calling for a reduction in code testing to 5wpm
with a 'sunset clause' eliminating it altogether once the treaty requirement
was removed?

So, you don't like those types of amateurs telling you how to live your
amateur life, a-la removing the code test? Well, I suppose if you're a
die-hard 20wpm code tester, I can see how you'd be upset by that. Have no
fear though, Brian, you can continue to make those 20+wpm code contacts all
you want, even with the pesky little code test gone.


How many COLEM exams?

I've been to two. One for my General Radiotelephone and a 2nd for my GMDSS
Operator/Maintainer license (needed that for my ocean-going trawler based in
Washington, dontcha know). How about you?

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On Mar 10, 10:28 am, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote

The funny part about Mark's rant is even if there were an adequate number of
Extra-class operators around to give him a test, it is not outside the realm
of possibility that those Extras might have been licensed after 2000, and
could have only passed the fairly trivial 5wpm code examination to obtain
their Extra-class license.

Only Pro-Code Test Advocated trivialize the 5WPM Exam.

That's incorrect. Anyone who passed a 13 wpm or 20 wpm Morse test could
trivialize a 5 wpm exam. Five words per minute does not demonstrate
Morse Code proficiency.

I am reminded of someone who accused certain
VEs of "fraud" simply because they presided over
the license testing of a young amateur,
I seem to recall that too. And, if I remember correctly, the accuser wasn't
even a licensed amateur at the time of the accusation.

I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

I don't believe it is possible for one to recall something in which he
was not present or involved.

Dave K8MN

/So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
/with the licensing process. And all who have done so
/for more than 20 years, since the FCC abdicated the
/responsibility of testing for amateur radio licenses.


You're welcome.

Jim

VE-ARRL ($14)
VE-GLAARG ($4)

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I seem to recall a world famous DXer working out of band Frenchmen on
6 meters.

So this DX'er was out of his allocation? or were the Frenchman out of
theirs? Seems if the latter, than they are at fault. Perhaps being to good
little soldier, you could report them to the Ohio Ag as well.


Hmmm, I seem to recall reading about a certian someone working people not
only out band, but out of their allocation in a foreign country with no
legal written authorization

Hmmmmmm




I seem to recall an RF Commando telling others how to live their
amateur lives, all the while faking up a bunch of clubs and using an
out of CONUS PO Box to glom up a whole bunch of DX callsigns.

So I'll say "THANK YOU" to Dee, and all VEs who help
with the licensing process.

Most definitely. I've been to 4 VE sessions in my lifetime, and that was
enough for me.

73
kh6hz

By the way Bry, does you hbeing silent on the fact that the elderly one
fromm the left coast has threatened people mean you condone his viilence
against others? Seems you have a great double standard there Bry

How's that report on me going. Should be at least 500 words double spaced

Bry..you are the tool's tool

Dean
Anchors Away

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]



So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if
they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them
held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam,
they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.



Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's
area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.

Dee, N8UZE

Fair enough.

I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.

That is all.

I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.

Dave K8MN

If you notice, when a certain someone refers to a 2x4 across the head and
causing someone to have to pick their teeth off the floor, good Ol Bry is
just as silent. Guess that means he's legitimizing
the violence threatened against others. Hmmmmm He does seem to possess all
the traits of a trained monkey All he needs is to grind his organ and put
on his tim cup

On Mar 10, 11:07 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message

roups.com...

On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]

So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.

Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.

Dee, N8UZE

Fair enough.

I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.

That is all.

I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.

Dave K8MN

Sometimes? Don't hold back. What do you think of me the rest of the
time?

On Mar 10, 11:31 am, "Dean M" wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]

So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if
they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them
held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam,
they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.

Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's
area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.

Dee, N8UZE

Fair enough.

I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.

That is all.

I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.

Dave K8MN

If you notice, when a certain someone refers to a 2x4 across the head and
causing someone to have to pick their teeth off the floor, good Ol Bry is
just as silent.

I saw Dean publish that. I was not silent.

Guess that means he's legitimizing
the violence threatened against others.

Who were you threatening?

wrote:
On Mar 10, 11:07 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:15 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
wrote in message
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On Mar 9, 9:53 pm, "Mork" Dork@anon wrote:
[snip]
So less than two dozen ( 24) amateurs aren't enough to make up a VE
team? That IS news to me.
If the numbers presented earlier were correct, it would not matter if they
were all VEs. They could not have tested Mark since only one of them held a
license class higher than General. To conduct a General license exam, they
must hold either an Advanced or Extra license.
Dee is a cheerleader for Morse Code and the ARRL. That's known as
"bias."
My support of Morse code has no bearing on the number of VEs in Mark's area
who are eligible to administer the General exam.
Dee, N8UZE
Fair enough.
I was just disgusted by your legitimizing Robesin's sexual inuendo and
accusations that Mark's wife is a man.
That is all.
I sometimes get the feeling that you're about as peculiarly wired as Mark.

Sometimes? Don't hold back. What do you think of me the rest of the
time?

I wasn't writing about the rest of the time. I expressed my view
concisely. Since you've asked: Much of the time, you write like an
insecure fellow with a chip on his shoulder. There have been occasions
though, when you've posted something in a fairly rational manner.

To ascribe some sinister motivation to Dee Flint is at best, absurd.

Dave K8MN