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#21
September 27th 07, 11:37 AM
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Where Is Everybody?
On Sep 26, 10:40 pm, "Rogie" anon@anon wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 25, 8:40 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:17:22 -0700, John Smith wrote: Leo wrote: ... Just wondering - what's up with Len, Mike,Dave, Jim, Brian, Steve, Dee, Kim, and the rest of the old regulars on the group? Hope all is well! 73, Leo The perverts have rein--however, what is new, the same thing has happened to my city ... :-( Besides, it seems that policy was not an interest, it was just a "stated ruse" to allow the CW Proclaimers to have voice and attempt to maintain control. sadly that seemed to have been the whole root of of that issue Sadly they grew upset that folks who weren't code advocates found a voice on policy, so they created a moderated group to exclude the no- coders. After the initial back-slapping, they found that they didn't have much to say to each other. In all reality, despite your claims otherwise, they formed the moderated group mainly in response to Mark Morgan's hundreds upon hundreds of inane posts that were more of a pestilence than a welcome addition to this group. Mark is THE primary culprit, with one or two others bringing up a very distant second and third place. Your spin stops here. Nope, go back and read the archives. The cronies originally put forth the idea of a moderated group to exclude non-amateurs from having a voice in an amateur newsgroup. That's where the idea come from. They discovered it was "too hard" so one of the cronies proposed that he would make a BBS. He decided that was "too hard." So they sat on their duffs until someone else came along and did the hard work. Morse Code is truly their only claim to fame. BTW. Did you "reign" as in dominating power? Or "rein" as in any means of curbing or controlling? Mark would certainly fit the latter definition. You'll have to go back up the chain and ask "assembly whiz" or whoever wrote that. Regardless, Robesin was the catalyst for most of the bad behavio[u]r on rrap. If he had apologized for mining the web and bringing back non-amateur related information to policy, and his incessant outrageous claims and accusations.... He's a bad citizen no matter what neighborhood he pops in to. |
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#22
September 27th 07, 11:50 AM
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Where Is Everybody?
On Sep 27, 12:37 am, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:40:18 -0500, "Rogie" anon@anon wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Sep 25, 8:40 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:17:22 -0700, John Smith wrote: Leo wrote: ... Just wondering - what's up with Len, Mike,Dave, Jim, Brian, Steve, Dee, Kim, and the rest of the old regulars on the group? Hope all is well! 73, Leo The perverts have rein--however, what is new, the same thing has happened to my city ... :-( Besides, it seems that policy was not an interest, it was just a "stated ruse" to allow the CW Proclaimers to have voice and attempt to maintain control. sadly that seemed to have been the whole root of of that issue Sadly they grew upset that folks who weren't code advocates found a voice on policy, so they created a moderated group to exclude the no- coders. After the initial back-slapping, they found that they didn't have much to say to each other. In all reality, despite your claims otherwise, they formed the moderated group mainly in response to Mark Morgan's hundreds upon hundreds of inane becuase they supported the atack made against of course anything ebing justified to selence a nocoders As despicable as many of Mark's posting were and are, they were the only means available to counter the incessant heinous attacks he suffered at the hands of Robesin, Wiseman, with the nod from the cronies. Unfortunately, Mark's postings were necessary. posts that were more of a pestilence than a welcome addition to this group. BTW I never claimed they were a welcome addition or that they should have been That's the way I see it, too. Mark is THE primary culprit, with one or two others bringing up a very distant second and third place. funny if Steve and owger and YOU were not eneging in your gaybashing jewbashing etc Everyone posts something off topic at some time or another, but a select few incessantly posted objectional, despicable material. That's been covered ad infinitum. Anyway, Robesin is mostly absent from RRAP which is a good thing. If only the cronies had suggested that he cool it with his incessant homo- erotic attacks. Hell everything from Morse Code to Military Service to MARS was attack material for that jerk... |
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#24
September 27th 07, 05:33 PM
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:16:50 -0500, "Rogie" anon@anon wrote:
In all reality, despite your claims otherwise, they formed the moderated group mainly in response to Mark Morgan's hundreds upon hundreds of inane becuase they supported the atack made against of course anything ebing justified to selence a nocoders posts that were more of a pestilence than a welcome addition to this group. BTW I never claimed they were a welcome addition or that they should have been Then you admit that you flamed. no I admit no such thing ou were told time after time that your floods were not welcome so what they were regretaable needed and it worked by and large In short, by your own admission, you selfishly flamed. no you need to learn to read I made no such admission "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams woger you are a Congress all in your own head http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/ and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well G -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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#25
September 27th 07, 05:36 PM
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Where Is Everybody?
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:50:49 -0700,
wrote: On Sep 27, 12:37 am, wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:40:18 -0500, "Rogie" anon@anon wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Sep 25, 8:40 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:17:22 -0700, John Smith wrote: Leo wrote: ... Just wondering - what's up with Len, Mike,Dave, Jim, Brian, Steve, Dee, Kim, and the rest of the old regulars on the group? Hope all is well! 73, Leo The perverts have rein--however, what is new, the same thing has happened to my city ... :-( Besides, it seems that policy was not an interest, it was just a "stated ruse" to allow the CW Proclaimers to have voice and attempt to maintain control. sadly that seemed to have been the whole root of of that issue Sadly they grew upset that folks who weren't code advocates found a voice on policy, so they created a moderated group to exclude the no- coders. After the initial back-slapping, they found that they didn't have much to say to each other. In all reality, despite your claims otherwise, they formed the moderated group mainly in response to Mark Morgan's hundreds upon hundreds of inane becuase they supported the atack made against of course anything ebing justified to selence a nocoders As despicable as many of Mark's posting were and are, they were the only means available to counter the incessant heinous attacks he suffered at the hands of Robesin, Wiseman, with the nod from the cronies. Unfortunately, Mark's postings were necessary. and as long as the forgers contiue to post stuff bearing mine and my wife name/ call on a daily basis they contiue to be they were only resulted to after 9 years of such assualt as well posts that were more of a pestilence than a welcome addition to this group. BTW I never claimed they were a welcome addition or that they should have been That's the way I see it, too. Mark is THE primary culprit, with one or two others bringing up a very distant second and third place. funny if Steve and owger and YOU were not eneging in your gaybashing jewbashing etc Everyone posts something off topic at some time or another, but a select few incessantly posted objectional, despicable material. of course it normaly a few with tactic support of others rather like the actions of NAZI's That's been covered ad infinitum. Anyway, Robesin is mostly absent from RRAP which is a good thing. If only the cronies had suggested that he cool it with his incessant homo- erotic attacks. Hell everything from Morse Code to Military Service to MARS was attack material for that jerk... indeed resriting it to ham targets or even to those and my dyslexica were never enough "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams woger you are a Congress all in your own head http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/ and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well G -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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#26
September 27th 07, 05:38 PM
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Where Is Everybody?
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:37:52 -0700,
wrote: On Sep 26, 10:40 pm, "Rogie" anon@anon wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 25, 8:40 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:17:22 -0700, John Smith wrote: Leo wrote: ... Just wondering - what's up with Len, Mike,Dave, Jim, Brian, Steve, Dee, Kim, and the rest of the old regulars on the group? Hope all is well! 73, Leo The perverts have rein--however, what is new, the same thing has happened to my city ... :-( Besides, it seems that policy was not an interest, it was just a "stated ruse" to allow the CW Proclaimers to have voice and attempt to maintain control. sadly that seemed to have been the whole root of of that issue Sadly they grew upset that folks who weren't code advocates found a voice on policy, so they created a moderated group to exclude the no- coders. After the initial back-slapping, they found that they didn't have much to say to each other. In all reality, despite your claims otherwise, they formed the moderated group mainly in response to Mark Morgan's hundreds upon hundreds of inane posts that were more of a pestilence than a welcome addition to this group. Mark is THE primary culprit, with one or two others bringing up a very distant second and third place. Your spin stops here. Nope, go back and read the archives. The cronies originally put forth the idea of a moderated group to exclude non-amateurs from having a voice in an amateur newsgroup. That's where the idea come from. They discovered it was "too hard" so one of the cronies proposed that he would make a BBS. He decided that was "too hard." So they sat on their duffs until someone else came along and did the hard work. Morse Code is truly their only claim to fame. factsare too hard for morse cronies BTW. Did you "reign" as in dominating power? Or "rein" as in any means of curbing or controlling? Mark would certainly fit the latter definition. You'll have to go back up the chain and ask "assembly whiz" or whoever wrote that. Regardless, Robesin was the catalyst for most of the bad behavio[u]r on rrap. If he had apologized for mining the web and bringing back non-amateur related information to policy, and his incessant outrageous claims and accusations.... He's a bad citizen no matter what neighborhood he pops in to. or if he had choosen to merely state he would stop suchattacks and and then follow through on it that would have suffied "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams woger you are a Congress all in your own head http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/ and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well G -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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#27
September 27th 07, 05:39 PM
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:48:42 -0700, John Smith
wrote: wrote: ... Sadly they grew upset that folks who weren't code advocates found a voice on policy, so they created a moderated group to exclude the no- coders. After the initial back-slapping, they found that they didn't have much to say to each other. Yes, as usual, you are relevant ... Will this result in some learning/changes? No? :-( it could what RRAP needs a is good Policy related issue to sink our teeh into Regards, JS "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams woger you are a Congress all in your own head http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/ and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well G -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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#28
September 27th 07, 07:29 PM
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Moderated newsgroup daily activity
"Leo" wrote:
Since the new moderated group was created (whose mission was to improve communication and raise the bar on decency over the Policy group), everyone seems to have disappeared. The moderated group is virtually dead, containing primarily bulletins from Amateur groups around the world and the odd post hare and there.... I suspect the reason why the .moderated group is dead is due to the 'standards' the moderators have decided to implement. For example, I was recently banned from the .moderated group. My "crime"? I had 3 rejected postings in a period of 4 months. Now, I was a staunch supporter of the .moderated group (and still believe a moderated group is a good thing.) I carefully went back and reviewed all the discussion on the group creation, and didn't see anywhere that such silly standards would be used. As the previous moderator of biz.sco.sources in the mid 90's, I would have thought such quantitative standards were outright silly. Over the years, I have participated in many moderated groups, comp.dcom.telecom being one I used extensively in the mid 90's when Pat Townsend(sp?) was the moderator. I can't count the number of rejected postings I've had from .telecom. Dozens. Yet, I never got any silly email from him telling me I was "banned". Instead, my messages were either rejected or simply never showed up. No big deal. That's his job, as moderator. To steer the discussion. If my comments didn't with within the discussion, it was his right to reject them. I actually laughed out loud when I got the email telling me I was suspended from .moderated on the basis of having 3 rejected postings over a 4 month period. I don't know who created that idea, but that's some serious anal-retentive tendencies there. The most disturbing part of the entire episode is none of these 'standards' were discussed up front. How many months have to go by before one of the rejected postings falls off the list? What happens if you have 3 rejected postings in 6 months? 12 months? 5 years? Do you still get banned if you have 3 rejected postings over a 10 year period? So, the reality is they are simply arbitrary ways for the moderators to squash those with dissenting opinion. No biggie, really. This summer I had to build a new barn, and right now I'm in the process of rehabbing the single-pane windows in my 300 year old ranch. Then I have to build wooden storm windows, and crawl into the attic and insulate. All before winter hits. I check in here maybe once every 2 to 3 weeks. Moderated even less. 73 kh6hz |
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#29
September 27th 07, 07:32 PM
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Where Is Everybody?
"Leo" wrote:
Since the new moderated group was created (whose mission was to improve communication and raise the bar on decency over the Policy group), everyone seems to have disappeared. I think most people have moved on to bigger and better things. Why spend time here when you can be operating on the air? This forum has become a quagmire, pretty much singlehandedly at the hands of the Mark Morgan, who somehow feels he has to spew a response to each and every message someone posts, including his own, proclaiming he is a victim (watch, he will feel compelled to respond to this posting as well, much like Pavlov's dog.) |
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#30
September 27th 07, 07:40 PM
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Moderated newsgroup daily activity
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:29:15 -0400, "KH6HZ" wrote:
"Leo" wrote: Since the new moderated group was created (whose mission was to improve communication and raise the bar on decency over the Policy group), everyone seems to have disappeared. The moderated group is virtually dead, containing primarily bulletins from Amateur groups around the world and the odd post hare and there.... I suspect the reason why the .moderated group is dead is due to the 'standards' the moderators have decided to implement. For example, I was recently banned from the .moderated group. My "crime"? I had 3 rejected postings in a period of 4 months. indded Now, I was a staunch supporter of the .moderated group (and still believe a moderated group is a good thing.) even i was willing to consider the idea I carefully went back and reviewed all the discussion on the group creation, and didn't see anywhere that such silly standards would be used. that aterail was sated here in RRAP when when I was banned form even testing there moderation after to being expressly invited to do As the previous moderator of biz.sco.sources in the mid 90's, I would have thought such quantitative standards were outright silly. for once we agree Over the years, I have participated in many moderated groups, comp.dcom.telecom being one I used extensively in the mid 90's when Pat Townsend(sp?) was the moderator. I can't count the number of rejected postings I've had from .telecom. Dozens. Yet, I never got any silly email from him telling me I was "banned". Instead, my messages were either rejected or simply never showed up. No big deal. That's his job, as moderator. To steer the discussion. If my comments didn't with within the discussion, it was his right to reject them. I actually laughed out loud when I got the email telling me I was suspended from .moderated on the basis of having 3 rejected postings over a 4 month period. I don't know who created that idea, but that's some serious anal-retentive tendencies there. it seems to have been Puals idea from the beginning but I truly don't know The most disturbing part of the entire episode is none of these 'standards' were discussed up front. How many months have to go by before one of the rejected postings falls off the list? What happens if you have 3 rejected postings in 6 months? 12 months? 5 years? Do you still get banned if you have 3 rejected postings over a 10 year period? as I understand the matter 3 post over 50 years would get one banned unless the server counting them crashed in the period So, the reality is they are simply arbitrary ways for the moderators to squash those with dissenting opinion. as I said from the first No biggie, really. This summer I had to build a new barn, and right now I'm in the process of rehabbing the single-pane windows in my 300 year old ranch. Then I have to build wooden storm windows, and crawl into the attic and insulate. All before winter hits. I check in here maybe once every 2 to 3 weeks. Moderated even less. 73 kh6hz "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams woger you are a Congress all in your own head http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/ and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well G -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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