"Dick Carroll;" writes:

Phil Stripling wrote:



I hesitate to post this

After reading it I can see why. Date it April 1.

Oh, sorry -- I didn't realize I had to say it was a hilarious joke. :-
Forgot what groups it's posted to.

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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message m...
Only a radio specifically designed for FRS applications may be
used license free. Any other radio is GMRS and must be licensed.

Bull****.

There are MANY FRS/GMRS hybrids on sale at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc. You
CAN use them on the FRS freqs without a license.

You could use them on the GMRS repeater output freqs (and a very few
of the hybrids are even repeater-capable), but they are not very
useful on those frequencies in most environments... so don't bother
using them on those freqs, and don't bother licensing them.

The GMRS capability on the integral-antenna GMRS-FRS hybrids is
bascially a marketing gimmick, created so that the radio manufacturers
can claim "5 MILE RANGE!", and claim "22 FREQUENCIES"!

- Stewart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURS-OPEN

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:53:57 GMT, D. Stussy wrote:

The cost of a large soda at a fast-food place or a 2-liter bottle at
the supermarket once a month......

I was surprised how much spare change I had in my pocket when I
stopped buying my daily yoghurt or ice cream a while ago. And my
waistline appreciated it, too.....

But the FCC wants it all at once, not amortized over time.

As my dentist once said - take up the question of time payments with
your bank.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Phil Kane wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:53:57 GMT, D. Stussy wrote:
The cost of a large soda at a fast-food place or a 2-liter bottle at
the supermarket once a month......

I was surprised how much spare change I had in my pocket when I
stopped buying my daily yoghurt or ice cream a while ago. And my
waistline appreciated it, too.....

But the FCC wants it all at once, not amortized over time.

As my dentist once said - take up the question of time payments with
your bank.

Did he also confirm the existence of The Tooth Fairy? :-)

On 28 Jun 2003 15:54:55 -0700, stewart wrote:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message m...
Only a radio specifically designed for FRS applications may be
used license free. Any other radio is GMRS and must be licensed.

Bull****.

Yes,. "stewart", the rest of your diatribe sure is.

There are MANY FRS/GMRS hybrids on sale at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc.

That is true,

You CAN use them on the FRS freqs without a license.

That is not true.

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
A real communications lawyer who deals
in these interpretations for a living

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 00:31:47 GMT, D. Stussy wrote:

But the FCC wants it all at once, not amortized over time.

As my dentist once said - take up the question of time payments with
your bank.

Did he also confirm the existence of The Tooth Fairy? :-)

He was the opposite = you left money under the pillow and he put an
extracted tooth in its place.... ggg

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:30:24 GMT, G. M. Alf wrote:

Here is text from the Motorola Users Manual for the T4500:

"The FCC requires that all operators using General Mobile Radio
Service (GMRS) frequencies obtain a radio license before operating
their equipment."

I have two questions about this:

(1) FRS channels 8 - 14 are not GMRS frequencies. Would not the above
strongly infer that use of those channels do not require a license?

95.194 (FRS Rule 4) FRS units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified FRS unit. (You can identify an
FCC certified FRS unit by the label placed on it by the manufacturer.)

The above rule does not say that a GMRS radio may be used on FRS
frequencies. Only FRS radios are allowed.

That is true on FRS Channels 8-14.

(2) Does this not infer that a hybrid radio can only be an FRS radio
on FRS channels 8 - 14?

If the "hybrid" radio is type certified as a FRS radio AND a GMRS
radio (FCC type certification, not the manufacturer's advertising
claim) then it can be used on FRS channels 1-14 without a GMRS
license or on any GMRS channel in the radio with a GMRS license.

Again the Commission screwed up by interleaving a licensed service
with a non-licensed service.

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"Phil Kane" wrote in message . com...

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

On 29 Jun 2003 09:19:27 -0700, Steve Robeson, K4CAP wrote:

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

Go ahead...Let's see YOUR interpretation of the law, then let's
hear from the fella who helped to WRITE those laws! I wonder who has
the better understanding...?!?! Well, no, not really, but it will be
fun to watch you flail about trying!

It's always fun to see the uninformed flail about before those of us
who enforce or interpret radio regulations every day....

--
73 de K2ASP / KAE8605 - Phil Kane

"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message ...
stewart wrote:

"Phil Kane" wrote in message . com...

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah, Phil....don't try to throw reality or legality into The Stew. He's most unaccustomed to all that.

Idiots.

Quit cross-posting about issues that you Morse throwbacks know NOTHING
about. It is bad enough that you morons argue ENDLESSLY trying to
salvage what's left of the archaic Morse regulations... but when your
BS starts to spill over into other groups, your confusing,
narrow-minded negativism is totally unhelpful.... but, I suppose
THAT'S what you folks are ALL ABOUT, right?

- Stewart