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Old July 4th 03, 02:37 AM
Alun Palmer
 
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Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html
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Old July 4th 03, 07:35 AM
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Alun Palmer wrote in message . ..
Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html


Easy there fellas...The TREATY requirement may be negated, but we
are still under FCC regulation...let's give them a day or two to see
how they are going to handle this.

73

Steve, K4YZ
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Old July 5th 03, 01:23 PM
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In article , "D. Stussy"
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And adopted July 4, 2003 Independence Day!


....OK, so when do the "no code extras" start? :-)

You in The Pool, yet? (see thread by that name)

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Old July 5th 03, 03:09 PM
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I wrote:

Its Fri 10pm, July 4, Independence Day- Ham. DOH!!!

HaHaHaHaHa!


Sorry, I take that back. Although there are more fitting times when you did
deserve it, on this occasion it does not necessarily deserve a HaHa.

Too bad. Now it has lost its impact. I already said that (HaHaHaHaHa!), so now
I can't say that again when it truly does apply.

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Old July 6th 03, 02:19 AM
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"Vshah101" wrote ...

I wrote:

Its Fri 10pm, July 4, Independence Day- Ham. DOH!!!

HaHaHaHaHa!


Sorry, I take that back. Although there are more fitting times when you

did
deserve it, on this occasion it does not necessarily deserve a HaHa.

Too bad. Now it has lost its impact. I already said that (HaHaHaHaHa!), so

now
I can't say that again when it truly does apply.


As I see it, your nothing but a big JERK. When the day comes that you need
some help with that antenna, electronics, or building project, remember how
you treated the guys you disagreed with when they tell you to pound sand.

Arnie -
KT4ST





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Old July 6th 03, 02:48 AM
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Arnie Macy wrote:
"Vshah101" wrote ...


I wrote:


Its Fri 10pm, July 4, Independence Day- Ham. DOH!!!

HaHaHaHaHa!


Sorry, I take that back. Although there are more fitting times when you


did

deserve it, on this occasion it does not necessarily deserve a HaHa.

Too bad. Now it has lost its impact. I already said that (HaHaHaHaHa!), so


now

I can't say that again when it truly does apply.



As I see it, your nothing but a big JERK. When the day comes that you need
some help with that antenna, electronics, or building project, remember how
you treated the guys you disagreed with when they tell you to pound sand.


Remember Arnie, we're talking about the same guy who says he'll help
fellow amateurs put an antenna up, but not take it down because he isn't
learning anything doing that.

He doesn't realize that *he* is his own worst enemy.

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old July 6th 03, 05:02 AM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote ...

Remember Arnie, we're talking about the same guy who says he'll help
fellow amateurs put an antenna up, but not take it down because he isn't
learning anything doing that.

He doesn't realize that *he* is his own worst enemy.


Doesn't surprise me, Mike. Based on what I've read of his posts.

Arnie -



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Old July 6th 03, 05:01 AM
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"D. Stussy" wrote in message
. org...
On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, N2EY wrote:
In article , "Bill Sohl"
writes:

"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
. com...
Alun Palmer wrote in message
...
Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html

Easy there fellas...The TREATY requirement may be negated, but

we
are still under FCC regulation...let's give them a day or two to

see
how they are going to handle this.
Steve, K4YZ

No one said otherwise.


Actually, didn't the FCC say back in 2000 that the ONLY reason they kept a

code
element in the requirements was the International Treaty requirement,

which has
now disappeared?


That's how most of us read the R&O.

Look at the thread title, Bill. "CW Requirement Abolished" - not "Treaty

No
Longer Requires Code Test" or "S25.5 Revised" or anything like that. The

casual
observer would think the code test is gone. Not yet,

Clearly the issue of code testing now becomes
a country by country decision.


Only once the new treaty is accepted by the various countries.


There is no global vote of acceptance. It is NOW a country
by country decision. Some countries probably have no formal
ratification at all and simply accept the new treaty as of 7/5/03.

The USA goes through a "ratification" of the treaty which takes
some time...but it will be ratified because to not ratify leaves
the USA totally out of the agreement. If the USA didn't
ratify the new treaty, the old treaty isn't "resurrected", but
rather the USA would simply not be a party to the treaty
at all.

Simple: Congress ratifies it and the next day, the FCC creates the "no

code
extra."


Works for me.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



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Old July 6th 03, 07:33 PM
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In article , "D. Stussy"
writes:

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, N2EY wrote:
In article , "Bill Sohl"
writes:

"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
. com...
Alun Palmer wrote in message
...
Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html

Easy there fellas...The TREATY requirement may be negated, but we
are still under FCC regulation...let's give them a day or two to see
how they are going to handle this.
Steve, K4YZ

No one said otherwise.


Actually, didn't the FCC say back in 2000 that the ONLY reason they kept a
code element in the requirements was the International Treaty requirement,
which has now disappeared?


That's how I read it.

Look at the thread title, Bill. "CW Requirement Abolished" - not "Treaty No
Longer Requires Code Test" or "S25.5 Revised" or anything like that. The
casual observer would think the code test is gone. Not yet,

Clearly the issue of code testing now becomes
a country by country decision.


Only once the new treaty is accepted by the various countries.


Simple: Congress ratifies it and the next day, the FCC creates the "no code
extra."

Naw, simpler than that. FCC just says "Element 1 waived for all applicants" or
"All applicants get credit for Element 1" or some such. One sentence and done.

You put a date in The Pool yet?

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old July 7th 03, 06:02 AM
Alun Palmer
 
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(N2EY) wrote in
:

In article , "Bill Sohl"
writes:

"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
.com...
Alun Palmer wrote in message
. ..
Yes it's true. The final report of WRC 2003 is he-

http://www.iaru.org/rel030703.html

Easy there fellas...The TREATY requirement may be negated, but
we
are still under FCC regulation...let's give them a day or two to
see how they are going to handle this.
Steve, K4YZ


No one said otherwise.


Look at the thread title, Bill. "CW Requirement Abolished" - not
"Treaty No Longer Requires Code Test" or "S25.5 Revised" or anything
like that. The casual observer would think the code test is gone. Not
yet,

Clearly the issue of code testing now becomes a country by country
decision.


Only once the new treaty is accepted by the various countries.

73 de Jim, N2EY




OK. I could have worded it better. What I meant was the international
requirement to have code tests is gone. Actually, though, in several EU
countries the test will go within the next few weeks. The FCC will take a
little longer, though.


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