Sorry...ain't so. Vanity calls require a payment.

Dan/W4NTI

"JJ" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I don't think that is correct 'jj'. I believe there is a charge if your
not
a member.

License renewal is FREE, any amateur can renew FREE directly with
the FCC, you don't need to go through the ARRL, W5YI, or anyone
else. Why pay someone else (either directly or through ARRL dues)
for something that is very simple and one can do themselves for FREE?

No I didn't say the ARRL would pick up the fee for a vanity call. You
insinuated that.

And stop being such a smart ass. If you want we can trade smart assed
remarks back and forth. But I really don't feel like it.

Dan/W4NTI

"JJ" wrote in message
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Well DUH! So it isn't FREE through the AARL either or are you
saying the ARRL will pick up the fee for renewing a vanity call
sign? Yea right. Renewing a non-vanity call license is FREE if you
do it directly with the FCC.

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Sorry...ain't so. Vanity calls require a payment.

Dan/W4NTI

"JJ" wrote in message
...


Dan/W4NTI wrote:

I don't think that is correct 'jj'. I believe there is a charge if
your

not

a member.

License renewal is FREE, any amateur can renew FREE directly with
the FCC, you don't need to go through the ARRL, W5YI, or anyone
else. Why pay someone else (either directly or through ARRL dues)
for something that is very simple and one can do themselves for FREE?

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, JJ wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Another reason to join the ARRL. For members license renewal is FREE.

License renewal if FREE to any licensed amateur, ARRL membership
is not necessary.

Wrong. For license renewals filed via the [ARRL's] volunteer examiner program
by non-ARRL members, a processing fee is still supposed to be applied. Some VE
teams do not enforce this.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, JJ wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I don't think that is correct 'jj'. I believe there is a charge if your not
a member.

License renewal is FREE, any amateur can renew FREE directly with
the FCC, you don't need to go through the ARRL, W5YI, or anyone
else. Why pay someone else (either directly or through ARRL dues)
for something that is very simple and one can do themselves for FREE?

1) Because they don't have the time (and don't realize it only takes 5 minutes)?
2) Because they're computer illiterate?
3) Because they're stupid?

I consider #2 above to be the only semi-valid reason (and semi-valid only
because they can often get help or a friend who is literate to do it for them).

If #1 is the reason, then when do they even operate?
If #3 is the reason, then how did they get a license in the first place?

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Alun Palmer wrote:
JJ wrote in :
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I don't think that is correct 'jj'. I believe there is a charge if
your not a member.

License renewal is FREE, any amateur can renew FREE directly with
the FCC, you don't need to go through the ARRL, W5YI, or anyone
else. Why pay someone else (either directly or through ARRL dues)
for something that is very simple and one can do themselves for FREE?

Because if you are on dial-up it is very difficult to use the free service

BS. I use dial-up and it took me 2 minutes about 2 months ago.

Now, if one were to try to renew via a chain of 300 baud HF TCP/IP packet radio
links, then timeouts would become an issue. :-)

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Sorry...ain't so. Vanity calls require a payment.

3 more years before that happens....

And those type of remarks, except in a few certain cases, yield no positive
results either, except in the mind of the one making the remarks.


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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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(snippage)

And stop being such a smart ass. If you want we can trade smart assed
remarks back and forth. But I really don't feel like it.

Dan/W4NTI

D. Stussy wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, JJ wrote:

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Another reason to join the ARRL. For members license renewal is FREE.

License renewal if FREE to any licensed amateur, ARRL membership
is not necessary.


Wrong. For license renewals filed via the [ARRL's] volunteer examiner program
by non-ARRL members, a processing fee is still supposed to be applied. Some VE
teams do not enforce this.

Where did I state anything about renewing through the ARRL?
License renewal is FREE to any licensed amateur, you don't have to
belong to the ARRL or any other ham radio organization to renew
you license for FREE directly with the FCC.

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

I have a dial-up 56k and it took over 4 hours.
The Java software had to load, then it took another hour to send the info
and confirm my renewal. If you already had the software on your system,
then that could account for the speed.

Last time I had to modify my license (change of address, late 1999), I had only
dialup access.

So I just downloaded Form 605 and instructions, read the instructions, printed
a copy of the 605, filled it out, stuck it in a stamped envelope addressed to
the FCC. New license showed up in the mail a week or two later. No special
software, no headaches.

Twenty minutes tops, start to finish.

73 de Jim, N2EY

WWHD

Careful you will be the next 'smart ass'.

Dan/W4NTI

"D. Stussy" wrote in message
rg...
On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, JJ wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Another reason to join the ARRL. For members license renewal is FREE.

License renewal if FREE to any licensed amateur, ARRL membership
is not necessary.

Wrong. For license renewals filed via the [ARRL's] volunteer examiner
program
by non-ARRL members, a processing fee is still supposed to be applied.
Some VE
teams do not enforce this.