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July 8th 03, 11:21 PM
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"Arnie Macy" wrote in message ...
"Brian" wrote ... Arnie, go ahead and let her take your answer. No sense in both of you being wrong. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Not so fast there, Brian. NCI has been on the record as saying that the tests should be made less technical. Not a far leap at all to presume they will try and "dumb" them down even more. Arnie - KT4ST Arnie, citation please. It is the disgruntled PCTA that have advocated a "No Test International" concept. I do not speak for NCI, but am on record for saying that the entry level exam is far to technical for an entry level license, and the entry level priveleges of 1,500 watts of UHF radiation are far too great for an entry level safety. Of course, the Technician license was never meant to be an entry license, being the consolation prize for General-level knowledge w/o the outdated, superfluous and irrelevant psycho-motor skills to twiddle a paddle at 13wpm. Brian |
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#12
July 8th 03, 11:24 PM
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#13
July 9th 03, 12:25 AM
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"Brian" wrote in message
om... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... "Bert Craig" wrote in message t... Now that the ITU treaty requirement re. CW is gone, (For all intents and purposes.) does that mean NCI's job is done? If not, what's next? Welp, since the name of the operation is No Code Test *International* their work is far from done. Seems like code tests will continue in a number of countries, Russia, Germany, China, the Arab states, etc. NCI will have to schmooze the likes of Putin (Col, ret. KGB), Jiang and the lop-yer-head-off Arab sweethearts before they can claim mission complete. Squiggy gets Yemen, Sohl gets Mongolia for openers. Oughta be interesting. w3rv What do I get? State sanctioned QRM. -- 73 de Bert WA2SI |
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#14
July 9th 03, 12:58 AM
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:46:08 -0400, Arnie Macy wrote:
"Penny Traytion" wrote ... No Test International. _________________________________________________ _________ Dang it, Penny. You took my answer. ;-) That's where I draw the line...... -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
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#16
July 9th 03, 02:22 AM
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In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Actually as a point of interest, and maybe a little trolling, Just WHY should there be testing for a ham license? Because we already know what happens with no testing. Isn't limiting access to the Airwaves to only those who pass some kind of test Elitist? Nope. What of those who simply aren't smart enough to pass a test? are they not human and have rights? Everyone has the right to take the test. Nobody has the right to a guaranteed pass on the test. As for RF safety, I would point to the successful efforts of Motorcycle riders to abolish helmet rules. It should be the individual's responsibility to decide if RF safety matters are important to him or her. Actually, that makes sense IF the effects can be contained to just the person making the decision. But that's rarely the case. As for mode specific questions, they have no business asking me about modes of operation that I am not interested in. I learned about televison screen aspect ratio and interlaced scanning because it was in the Extra study guide back when. I've never operated ATV. No Test International could be born now! Thoughts? See my rant on replacing the code test with a Smith Chart test. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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July 9th 03, 03:04 AM
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Bert Craig wrote:
Now that the ITU treaty requirement re. CW is gone, (For all intents and purposes.) does that mean NCI's job is done? If not, what's next? EXTINCTION. |
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#18
July 9th 03, 03:24 AM
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Robert Casey writes:
Why do people outside the USA call countries "states"? Because "state" means "country". It meant that to the US founders, too: in 18th century English, they named us "The United Nations of America", and envisioned each state as sovereign except in matters of war and commerce. Subsequent developments robbed states of their autonomy, and reduced them to provinces. Pity. Regards, Len. |
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#20
July 9th 03, 04:55 AM
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Jim,
I'm going to have to look up that one. I recently went to Burger King (sigh ....). They were running a special - two burgers and two small fries for $2.22. I ordered four burgers and four small fries only onions and ketchup on the burgers (this is a very difficult problem; break out the slip stick and multiply $2.22 times two). Now add two Whopper Juniors at $0.99 each. Um ... about 2 seconds to come up with $6.42. Then the sales tax. Ok. This poor gal starts pressing all these buttons and comes up with something very close to $10.00. I asked her what the sales tax was. 8%. Wrong. 8.25%, but I was being accessed nearly 50%. She looked hopelessly lost, so I offered that it should be $6.42 plus 8.25%, or something short of $7.00. She started pressing more buttons. She smiled, hit enter (or whatever) and then expressed dismay as the total was now around $15.00. She called the manager over. He explained what she did wrong, hit some buttons, smiled ... and stared at the total - now over $29.00. I was beginning to think I'd be better off at Radio Shack. This problem is a *lot* bigger than amateur radio. They threw out the regents math test in New York since so many kids failed. I recall one point was made that it included geometry (unfair). Huh? I don't know what folks think math includes, but if it is button pushing, I've met one manager that would have failed button pushing 101  Say, have you seen the ad on TV touting one quick oil change place (was it Jiffy Lube?). They have folks that have been 'certified' by an organization called something like 'oil change specialists of America'. Seeing these sort of events lately, I'm wondering if others have had similar experiences. If they have, is there a chance they might see some wisdom in having some kind of exam before turning someone loose with 1.5 KW of RF and perhaps thousands of volts in their amp? Yep, I didn't think so either. As to the ATV, remember the flying spot scanner? 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 7/4/03 |
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