Robert Casey wrote in
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Bert Craig wrote:




State sanctioned QRM.



Well, there's the Broadband over Power Line (BPL) proposal.
Which is essentially "State sanctioned QRM".

Why do people outside the USA call countries "states"? I think
the Palestinians really want their own country, not just a state.
("State" meaning "New York", "New Jersey", "Idaho", etc)



State originally meant country, but then you formed a union.

In article , "Dan/W4NTI"
writes:

Their next step should be joining up with a terrorist group. They could be
used as human bombs.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan:

The problem with that is, if Carl Stevenson's brain were composed of
Semtex, he couldn't blow his nose!

73 de Larry, K3LT

On 9 Jul 2003 03:19:48 GMT, Alun Palmer wrote:

State originally meant country, but then you formed a union.

Actually we formed a confederation.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
"Bert Craig" wrote in message t...
Now that the ITU treaty requirement re. CW is gone, (For all intents and
purposes.) does that mean NCI's job is done? If not, what's next?


Welp, since the name of the operation is No Code Test *International*
their work is far from done. Seems like code tests will continue in a
number of countries, Russia, Germany, China, the Arab states, etc. NCI
will have to schmooze the likes of Putin (Col, ret. KGB), Jiang and
the lop-yer-head-off Arab sweethearts before they can claim mission
complete. Squiggy gets Yemen, Sohl gets Mongolia for openers. Oughta
be interesting.

w3rv

What do I get?

You just HAD to do that din ya?

"Bert Craig" wrote in message . net...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
. com...
"Bert Craig" wrote in message
t...
Now that the ITU treaty requirement re. CW is gone, (For all intents
and
purposes.) does that mean NCI's job is done? If not, what's next?


Welp, since the name of the operation is No Code Test *International*
their work is far from done. Seems like code tests will continue in a
number of countries, Russia, Germany, China, the Arab states, etc. NCI
will have to schmooze the likes of Putin (Col, ret. KGB), Jiang and
the lop-yer-head-off Arab sweethearts before they can claim mission
complete. Squiggy gets Yemen, Sohl gets Mongolia for openers. Oughta
be interesting.

w3rv

What do I get?

State sanctioned QRM.

Wouldn't do any good, he doesn't know how to put up antennas.

Brian wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

Brian wrote:

"Arnie Macy" wrote in message ...


"Penny Traytion" wrote ...

No Test International.

______________________________________________ ____________

Dang it, Penny. You took my answer. ;-)

Arnie -
KT4ST


Arnie, go ahead and let her take your answer. No sense in both of you being wrong.


Actually as a point of interest, and maybe a little trolling, Just WHY
should there be testing for a ham license?

Isn't limiting access to the Airwaves to only those who pass some kind
of test Elitist?

What of those who simply aren't smart enough to pass a test? are they
not human and have rights?


As for RF safety, I would point to the successful efforts of Motorcycle
riders to abolish helmet rules. It should be the individual's
responsibility to decide if RF safety matters are important to him or her.

As for mode specific questions, they have no business asking me about
modes of operation that I am not interested in.

No Test International could be born now!

Thoughts?

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, looks like trolling to me. Let it be known that the PCTA want
no written exams.

hmmm, asking questions is a statement like that?


OK, to use a little PCTA logic, we have exams because the test always
gets thru when nothing else will. If that reason won't work, then we
do it to be in compliance with ITU requirements, an answer which has
worked for eons.

That's not my reasoning.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Jim Hampton wrote:
Jim,

I'm going to have to look up that one. I recently went to Burger King (sigh
...). They were running a special - two burgers and two small fries for
$2.22. I ordered four burgers and four small fries only onions and ketchup
on the burgers (this is a very difficult problem; break out the slip stick
and multiply $2.22 times two). Now add two Whopper Juniors at $0.99 each.
Um ... about 2 seconds to come up with $6.42. Then the sales tax. Ok.
This poor gal starts pressing all these buttons and comes up with something
very close to $10.00. I asked her what the sales tax was. 8%. Wrong.
8.25%, but I was being accessed nearly 50%. She looked hopelessly lost, so
I offered that it should be $6.42 plus 8.25%, or something short of $7.00.
She started pressing more buttons. She smiled, hit enter (or whatever) and
then expressed dismay as the total was now around $15.00. She called the
manager over. He explained what she did wrong, hit some buttons, smiled ...
and stared at the total - now over $29.00. I was beginning to think I'd be
better off at Radio Shack. This problem is a *lot* bigger than amateur
radio. They threw out the regents math test in New York since so many kids
failed. I recall one point was made that it included geometry (unfair).
Huh? I don't know what folks think math includes, but if it is button
pushing, I've met one manager that would have failed button pushing 101

It's not just stupid people - tho' there are enough of them around. In
your cited case, the techno-weenies that designed the cash register
accounting system have made things both too simple and too complicated.
So every time there is a special, or if a mistake is made, then all h**l
breaks loose.

The weenies who put those systems together have made it unnecessary to
think most of the time. So a mistake comes along, and the person behind
the register has to use a muscle they may not have excercised in weeks -
their mind.



Say, have you seen the ad on TV touting one quick oil change place (was it
Jiffy Lube?). They have folks that have been 'certified' by an organization
called something like 'oil change specialists of America'.

Now there is some wallpaper I'd like to get. Sign me up!


Seeing these sort of events lately, I'm wondering if others have had similar
experiences. If they have, is there a chance they might see some wisdom in
having some kind of exam before turning someone loose with 1.5 KW of RF and
perhaps thousands of volts in their amp? Yep, I didn't think so either.


Hoo, that would weed out the dummies quickly! ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Penny Traytion" wrote in message
...
Bert Craig wrote:
Now that the ITU treaty requirement re. CW is gone, (For
all intents and
purposes.) does that mean NCI's job is done? If not,
what's next?

No Test International.

WRONG...

NCI still has the individual administration decisions to address...
and for the uninformed... NCI's charter does NOT address
written testing. If anyone is going to propose a "No Test
International" they'll not get my support nor (IMHO) the support
of any other NCI directors.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK
Director NCI

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dan/W4NTI"
writes:

Their next step should be joining up with a terrorist group.
They could be used as human bombs.
Dan/W4NTI

The problem with that is, if Carl Stevenson's brain were composed of
Semtex, he couldn't blow his nose!
73 de Larry, K3LT

Larry,
Sure sounds like sour grapes to me.

Did you know that Carl was in Geneva as a member of the
US delegation? Seems pretty respected in
ITU circles to me.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

"Phil Kane" wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 13:21:41 GMT, wrote:

Isn't forbidding me to operate a transmitter the same as
forbidding me to operate a printing press?

...no. The Supreme Court of the United States has so ruled...

That isn't necessarily final, of course. It is theoretically possible
for the Supremes to rule contrary to the framers intent. Some justices
seem eager to do so.

So the question merely changes to whether we should seize the
airwaves, as the Constitution provides, and then defend the
Constitution from "all enemies, foreign and domestic", by taking out
the supremes. Anyone? Anyone?

--Len.

PS I gather there's a weapons cache at Concord, Mass...