Dave Heil wrote in message ...

Not deliberately, Kim. In my three years back in the U.S., I've logged
over 100,000 miles on the highways. I've not even been stopped for a
warning. On the interstate highways I set my cruise control for the
speed limit and let those who are in a hurry blow by.

Not in Ohio. Since the trucks have to go 10mph slower than auto
traffic it jams up the whole works. I'm suprised DOT doesn't withhold
some federal money until they reconcile the speed limit laws as a
safety issue.

Brian

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
Not just in our youth, Bert, either. But, apparently, Dave has never, in
any way, broken the law. Not even for speeding. Of course, he'll
probably
respond that he's never gotten a ticket. Neither have I.

Kim W5TIT

Well, radiowise, I'd have to say my errors are pretty much confined to my
"young and selfish" youth. I still cruise with the pack at 60/65 m.p.h.
though and I sure do jay walk occassionally. What can I say? Lock me up and
throw away the key. (hihi)

I'm sure Dave is a fine person, just as I'm certain about you. Anybody with
a gorgeous antenna farm like that is a-ok with me. Besides, this is USENET
and if you take any of this stuff seriously, you'll just drive yourself
nuts. Like I said, the important thing is to learn from your mistakes and
possibly help others avoid the same. Jim, N2EY, made a very good comment
about why folks that follow the rules are granted "privileges," and those
who send false distress signals and such are not. Not to worry though,
that's why there are "statute of limitations." (hihi) Take care. :-)

--
73 de Bert
WA2SI

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:15:40 GMT, Dave Heil wrote:

How about addressing the point of whether you believe that you can pick
and choose which laws to obey?

The renegade CB violators that we used to nail would say "proudly"
"I only obey the legal laws..."

Maybe he wants to be lumped into that category.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

Not deliberately, Kim. In my three years back in the U.S., I've logged
over 100,000 miles on the highways. I've not even been stopped for a
warning. On the interstate highways I set my cruise control for the
speed limit and let those who are in a hurry blow by.

Not in Ohio.

Not in Ohio what?

Since the trucks have to go 10mph slower than auto
traffic it jams up the whole works.

I do a lot of my driving in Ohio. Except for steep uphill grades, many
of those blowing by me are truckers.

I'm suprised DOT doesn't withhold
some federal money until they reconcile the speed limit laws as a
safety issue.

A bigger problem is the lack of enforcement of existing speed laws by
the states, though Ohio and Pennsylvania seem to do a better job than
most. These diversions aside, what's your honest opinion of Kim's
admission to deliberately taking to the airwaves as a bootlegger.
You're often the individual who writes of a double standard here. Are
you operating under one of your own?

Dave K8MN

On 24 Jul 2003 03:28:06 GMT, ospam (Larry Roll K3LT)
wrote:

Kim:

Uh huh. I'm sure they do. And how are these people being killed? Who
is killing them? And what are they being killed with?

Ummm...Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the candlestick?

I'll save you the bother of responding. They are being killed by CRIMINALS
using GUNS. Criminals will always have guns in this country, because
criminals, by definition, are not constrained by the moral necessity to
observe the law, including gun laws. Just ask any victim of gun crime in
Great Britain, where the law-abiding citizens have no rights to keep and
bear arms, and even sporting shotguns must be kept in gun club armories,
instead of in the owner's home. Over there, violent criminals have no
problem getting guns -- they're brought into the country by the SEALAND
container load under the watchful eye of Customs officers who have nice
fat pockets full of payoff money. They are quickly distributed throughout
the criminal and terrorist underground at obscene profits, and end up in
the hands of the same kinds of criminals that they've always ended up
in. Even unarmed criminals are having a "field day" of their own. They can
simply walk into the homes of innocent citizens, even in broad daylight,
since they know with absolute certainty that they will not be faced with the
barrel of a shotgun or a 9mm pistol, as they may have been years before.
The net result is that British citizens are being robbed and killed by
criminals with guns at a rate three times what it was before the country
went to total civil disarmament. Crimes against property have risen to
the point where it is now estimated that fully 50% of the British population
has been or will be crime victims within their lifetimes.

This is exactly why NRA used to sell bumper stickers that said, "If
guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

It is a proven fact that everywhere in the United States where "Shall Issue"
Right-to-Carry concealed weapon laws exist, violent crime drops at a
dramatic rate. Your own home state of Texas is one of the leading examples.
It is also a proven fact that the only force that can stop a criminal with a
gun is a law-abiding citizen with another gun. You see, the guns don't
know who is using them -- they are inanimate objects which require a
responsible human agency to utilize them for good or evil.

From a bumper sticker that I had on my Blazer before selling it: "No
gun pulls its own trigger."

The best
solution to the problem of violent gun crime is to ensure that the criminals
have as much to fear from their victims as their victims have to fear from
them.

Better yet, ensure that criminals have *more* to fear from their
victims than their victims have to fear from them:

Punk On Street: Hand over the wallet, buddy! (Sound of switchblade
knife opening and blade locking open)

Intended Victim: Not very bright, young man, bringing a knife to a
gunfight. (Sound of hammer being cocked on Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum
revolver...followed by sound of Punk On Street turning into an albino
with brown pants on and running away at Warp 9)

73 DE John, KC2HMZ
Criminals love gun control, it makes their jobs easier.

"Radio Amateur KC2HMZ" wrote in message
...
On 24 Jul 2003 03:28:06 GMT, ospam (Larry Roll K3LT)
wrote:

Kim:

Uh huh. I'm sure they do. And how are these people being killed? Who
is killing them? And what are they being killed with?

Ummm...Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the candlestick?

I'll save you the bother of responding. They are being killed by
CRIMINALS
using GUNS. Criminals will always have guns in this country, because
criminals, by definition, are not constrained by the moral necessity to
observe the law, including gun laws. Just ask any victim of gun crime in
Great Britain, where the law-abiding citizens have no rights to keep and
bear arms, and even sporting shotguns must be kept in gun club armories,
instead of in the owner's home. Over there, violent criminals have no
problem getting guns -- they're brought into the country by the SEALAND
container load under the watchful eye of Customs officers who have nice
fat pockets full of payoff money. They are quickly distributed
throughout
the criminal and terrorist underground at obscene profits, and end up in
the hands of the same kinds of criminals that they've always ended up
in. Even unarmed criminals are having a "field day" of their own. They
can
simply walk into the homes of innocent citizens, even in broad daylight,
since they know with absolute certainty that they will not be faced with
the
barrel of a shotgun or a 9mm pistol, as they may have been years before.
The net result is that British citizens are being robbed and killed by
criminals with guns at a rate three times what it was before the country
went to total civil disarmament. Crimes against property have risen to
the point where it is now estimated that fully 50% of the British
population
has been or will be crime victims within their lifetimes.

This is exactly why NRA used to sell bumper stickers that said, "If
guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

It is a proven fact that everywhere in the United States where "Shall
Issue"
Right-to-Carry concealed weapon laws exist, violent crime drops at a
dramatic rate. Your own home state of Texas is one of the leading
examples.
It is also a proven fact that the only force that can stop a criminal
with a
gun is a law-abiding citizen with another gun. You see, the guns don't
know who is using them -- they are inanimate objects which require a
responsible human agency to utilize them for good or evil.

From a bumper sticker that I had on my Blazer before selling it: "No
gun pulls its own trigger."

The best
solution to the problem of violent gun crime is to ensure that the
criminals
have as much to fear from their victims as their victims have to fear
from
them.

Better yet, ensure that criminals have *more* to fear from their
victims than their victims have to fear from them:

Punk On Street: Hand over the wallet, buddy! (Sound of switchblade
knife opening and blade locking open)

Intended Victim: Not very bright, young man, bringing a knife to a
gunfight. (Sound of hammer being cocked on Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum
revolver...followed by sound of Punk On Street turning into an albino
with brown pants on and running away at Warp 9)

73 DE John, KC2HMZ
Criminals love gun control, it makes their jobs easier.


First thing you said that makes sense John.

Dan/W4NTI

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

These diversions aside, what's your honest opinion of Kim's
admission to deliberately taking to the airwaves as a bootlegger.

Operating illegally is wrong. I condemn her actions.

You're often the individual who writes of a double standard here.

Yes, I am.

Are
you operating under one of your own?

No.

An Metet wrote in message ster...

Like you should've kept mum about your downloading...

Not cool.

Wow, I just checked nearly all the messages since a couple of days
ago...and, to my NOT surprise, there's no answer yet?! Wow...

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...

Maybe you should have kept mum on your bootleg radio operations, Kim.

Dave K8MN

Why, Dave? Oh, and by the way--have you answered the question yet? The
question is: Have you ever, in any way, broken the law?

Kim W5TIT


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