In article , Keith
writes:

As long as no code techs and others that are interested in HF ham radio
operation do nothing the FCC and the ARRL will drag their feet to keep this
dinosaur technology for the next year or so.
Write the FCC and let them know this is not satisfactory. There are 200,000+
hams that deserve immediate access to the HF bands today.

To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail
Chairman Michael K. Powell:
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy:
Commissioner Michael J. Copps:
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin:
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein:

If you do nothing then nothing can change. The squeaky wheel gets the
grease.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWProtest/

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , Keith
writes:

As long as no code techs and others that are interested in HF ham radio
operation do nothing the FCC and the ARRL will drag their feet to keep
this
dinosaur technology for the next year or so.
Write the FCC and let them know this is not satisfactory. There are
200,000+
hams that deserve immediate access to the HF bands today.

To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail
Chairman Michael K. Powell:
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy:
Commissioner Michael J. Copps:
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin:
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein:

If you do nothing then nothing can change. The squeaky wheel gets the
grease.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWProtest/

--
The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more.
http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/


Well, I did just what you asked! Here is what I sent:

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TO: Michael K. Powell, Chairman, FCC

Dear Chairman Powell,

I am an Amateur Radio Operator, licensed for over 21 years. As you know,
the recent World Radiocommunication Conference, WRC-03, has eliminated
the ITU International Treaty requirement for Morse Code proficiency
testing,
and has left the decision whether or not to require Morse code testing in
any
member nation's Amateur Radio Service up to the individual
administrations.
I appeal to you NOT to take any action to eliminate the Morse code test
(Element 1) from the U.S. FCC Amateur Radio Licensing requirements.

You will undoubtedly be receiving many petitions from current and
prospective radio amateurs to do this, but the fact is, these people are
simply unqualified to know and understand the benefits and advantages
of the Morse/CW mode in the Amateur Radio Service. Indeed they, for
the most part, simply desire to be relieved of the necessity to expend the
time and effort required to learn a useful radiocommunications skill at
a basic proficiency level. Such "dumbing-down" of Amateur Radio
serves no useful purpose, and would, in fact, probably have the effect
of placing HF radiotelephone operating privileges in the hands of a large
number of eager, yet technically uninvolved individuals. This could
cause a dramatic increase in the number of operating violations on the
HF voice allocations, increasing the FCC's enforcement workload
without having any overall positive impact on the service.

Knowledge of the Morse code gives radio amateurs the ability to
communicate effectively using low power, and under operating
conditions which cause even the latest digital modes to fail. It is the
ultimate backup communications mode. Unfortunately, the many
benefits of the Morse/CW mode will be increasingly unavailable to
radio amateurs if future operators are not required to obtain even an
entry-level exposure to the use of the Morse code through a testing
requirement for an amateur license with HF operating privileges.
Therefore, I urge you to simply leave the FCC's amateur radio
licensing structure and requirements as it is, and retain the Element
1 Morse code test forever. I assure you that this is in the best
interest of the Amateur Radio Service and the FCC.

Sincerely,

Lawrence J. Roll, K3LT
1300 S. Farm View Dr. A-31
Dover, DE 19904-7721
(302) [xxx-xxxx]

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Note: Copies to be sent to the Commissioners as well.

73 de Larry, K3LT


Bravo Bravo capital job my man. Let the whinning commence.

Dan/W4NTI

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:13:24 -0700, Keith
wrote:

As long as no code techs and others that are interested in HF ham radio
operation do nothing the FCC and the ARRL will drag their feet to keep this
dinosaur technology for the next year or so.
Write the FCC and let them know this is not satisfactory. There are 200,000+
hams that deserve immediate access to the HF bands today.

To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail
Chairman Michael K. Powell:
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy:
Commissioner Michael J. Copps:
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin:
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein:


In the meantime, let's hope the spambots capture those addresses, it
might help convince the givernment to do something on the federal
level about unsolicited commercial e-mail.

If you do nothing then nothing can change.

Is that why you've been doing nothing about trying to pass a code
test?

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Or gets tossed in the scrap heap after it's been replaced with a brand
new one.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWProtest/

Speaking of yahoos, your two signed posts came from extra.newsguy.com
as did the anonymous post encouraging no-code Techs to violate the
terms of their license. Coincidence? Or merely a troll who doesn't
realize that nothing on the Internet is truly anonymous? You decide.

73 DE John, KC2HMZ

[posted and mailed]

"Phil Kane" wrote in
.net:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:13:24 -0700, Keith wrote:

Write the FCC and let them know this is not satisfactory. There are
200,000+ hams that deserve immediate access to the HF bands today.

To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail
Chairman Michael K. Powell:
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy:
Commissioner Michael J. Copps:
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin:
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein:

If you do nothing then nothing can change. The squeaky wheel gets the
grease.

Ah, I see that you are playing lawyer, Keith.

The above is NOT the correct procedure to get the Rules changed. It
will only annoy the Five Tubeless Tyres (tm) who have no conception
of what amateur radio and code tests are all about nor do they wasnt
to acquire same. That's much lower-level staff work.....

Thank you for playing and be sure to come back some other time.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Principal Attorney (retired)
Communications Law Center
San Francisco, CA




Phil, I've written a petition. Care to take a look at it?

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:00:39 -0500, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

As I understand it a committee of the House voted to overturn it. It would
then need to go to the Senate. And all that bs.

This may indeed be the ONLY route we have to take against the FCC concerning
BPL.

No, there's also a route through the U S Court of Appeals for the
Dictrict of Columbia. This may be better because the Court doesn't
get election campaign assistance from the industry.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

"Keith" wrote in message
...
As long as no code techs and others that are interested in HF ham radio
operation do nothing the FCC and the ARRL will drag their feet to keep
this
dinosaur technology for the next year or so.
Write the FCC and let them know this is not satisfactory. There are
200,000+
hams that deserve immediate access to the HF bands today.

To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail
Chairman Michael K. Powell:
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy:
Commissioner Michael J. Copps:
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin:
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein:

If you do nothing then nothing can change. The squeaky wheel gets the
grease.



Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced...

dinosaur technology

CW ?

Hardly, CW is ALIVE AND WELL in the ham bands today.

YEA !!!

jw
wb9uai

On 26 Jul 2003 04:36:47 GMT, Alun Palmer wrote:

Phil, I've written a petition. Care to take a look at it?

Be glad to. Address OK in callbook.


--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

this dinosaur technology

Dinosaurs are extinct ... CW is NOT.

Long live the code.

jw
wb9uai

ospam (Larry Roll K3LT) wrote in message ...

.... previous quoted message elided ...



Well, I did just what you asked! Here is what I sent:

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TO: Michael K. Powell, Chairman, FCC

Dear Chairman Powell,

....

You will undoubtedly be receiving many petitions from current and
prospective radio amateurs to do this, but the fact is, these people are
simply unqualified to know and understand the benefits and advantages
of the Morse/CW mode in the Amateur Radio Service.

A mode that is now out of use by pretty much all government services
(emergency services included). I personally have an interest in
learning the code, but don't see how it should remain a requirement if
it is no longer to be the 'lingua franca' of HF throughout the world.
Yes it is a low bandwidth, low power mode that can be very useful, as
this writer points out, but without that international status I don't
think that it should be required anymore than an in depth
understanding of psk31 or any other digital mode. All operators
should know of its existance, where on the bands it is expected to be
located, and where to learn more. There will always be a place for
Morse/CW and I'm sure there will always be enthusiasts... even if it
is no longer a requirement... just like french is no longer THE lingua
franca of the world ironically enough.

Erik Swanson KG6GOP