Hello
I have known radio-amateurism and its rules for years and I have
recently met someone who claims to be a cibist and communicate all
around the world, send and recieve postcards, talks about any subject,
belongs to a club and says it is new CB and it is legal. In my opinion
it is not. Is it?
Marc Louat

depends on your country's rules, but in the United States and many other
countries it is not legal.

"Louat Marc" wrote in message
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Hello
I have known radio-amateurism and its rules for years and I have
recently met someone who claims to be a cibist and communicate all
around the world, send and recieve postcards, talks about any subject,
belongs to a club and says it is new CB and it is legal. In my opinion
it is not. Is it?
Marc Louat

I live in France. What you say is not surprising.

David Robbins a écrit :

depends on your country's rules, but in the United States and many other
countries it is not legal.

"Louat Marc" wrote in message
...
Hello
I have known radio-amateurism and its rules for years and I have
recently met someone who claims to be a cibist and communicate all
around the world, send and recieve postcards, talks about any subject,
belongs to a club and says it is new CB and it is legal. In my opinion
it is not. Is it?
Marc Louat

He is someone who has gotten a Ham license in the past 3 years. :-)

"Louat Marc" wrote in message
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Hello
I have known radio-amateurism and its rules for years and I have
recently met someone who claims to be a cibist and communicate all
around the world, send and recieve postcards, talks about any subject,
belongs to a club and says it is new CB and it is legal. In my opinion
it is not. Is it?
Marc Louat

"David Robbins" a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour
:

Hi all

depends on your country's rules, but in the United States and many
other

In France, it is not legal :

The french CB rules are very precise : freqs from 26960 Khz to 27410 Khz,
step 10 Khz according the FCC freqs in USA (smiley), exactly 40 channels,
output power 4w in AM (2 side bands and carrier), FM and SSB (LSB and
USB). Phone only.

countries it is not legal.

I don't know exactly why French (and other) administration let the CBers
working around the legal band : I think (but only me) this band is not
good enough for HF transmissions... But what about 10 m ? Very
strange....


"Louat Marc" wrote in message
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Hello
I have known radio-amateurism and its rules for years and I have
recently met someone who claims to be a cibist and communicate all
around the world, send and recieve postcards, talks about any subject,
belongs to a club and says it is new CB and it is legal. In my opinion
it is not. Is it?
Marc Louat




--
Gilbert F4ASK
LE HAVRE

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"F4ASK" wrote in message
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I don't know exactly why French (and other) administration let the CBers
working around the legal band : I think (but only me) this band is not
good enough for HF transmissions... But what about 10 m ? Very
strange....


The CB band, being between the 10m and 12m ham bands, will follow the same
physics of radio propagation as the surrounding ham bands. When conditions
are good, you can work the world on a few watts. When conditions are bad,
all the power in the world won't help.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, I wished I were able to keep all of my QST's, but I tend to move
a lot and can't keep hauling everything I'd like.

Anyway, about 10 years ago, QST featured a ham in Texas that kept
records of his 10M activity. He was able to make contacts beyond
ground wave when most everyone else thought 10M prop was closed. It
was a good story and worth looking up if you have access to back
issues or the CD-ROMS.

But power does help, always has, always will. And a few watts may
work, but not necessarily reliably.

There is quite a network of 10M beacons, and you can often hear the
beacons when you hear no other traffic higher up in the band. 10M
just isn't glamorous, some OT hams calling it the "kiddie band." And
you risk running in to the Ten-Tenners (I am told). ;^)

73, Brian

Anyway, about 10 years ago, QST featured a ham in Texas that kept
records of his 10M activity. He was able to make contacts beyond
ground wave when most everyone else thought 10M prop was closed. It
was a good story and worth looking up if you have access to back
issues or the CD-ROMS.


Back then I has one or two QSOs at 10:30 PM on ten. Usually the band is
dead at
that time. Wonder if I QSOed with that ham?

"Brian" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
igy.com...
"F4ASK" wrote in message
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I don't know exactly why French (and other) administration let the
CBers
working around the legal band : I think (but only me) this band is not
good enough for HF transmissions... But what about 10 m ? Very
strange....


The CB band, being between the 10m and 12m ham bands, will follow the
same
physics of radio propagation as the surrounding ham bands. When
conditions
are good, you can work the world on a few watts. When conditions are
bad,
all the power in the world won't help.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, I wished I were able to keep all of my QST's, but I tend to move
a lot and can't keep hauling everything I'd like.

Anyway, about 10 years ago, QST featured a ham in Texas that kept
records of his 10M activity. He was able to make contacts beyond
ground wave when most everyone else thought 10M prop was closed. It
was a good story and worth looking up if you have access to back
issues or the CD-ROMS.


I've worked stations on 10 when the band was "closed" as there are other
propagation modes besides the normal ionospheric refraction that occurs
during times of high solar flux.

But power does help, always has, always will. And a few watts may
work, but not necessarily reliably.


Up to a point power helps. If there is no propagation mode currently
between you and the other station, power won't help no matter how much you
use. However if there is some propagation, then additional power can indeed
let you maintain clear communications under marginal conditions. If the
other station is already receiving you at say S9 and there is no background
static, more power will not help. You get a higher meter reading but there
is no enhancement of the communication.

There is quite a network of 10M beacons, and you can often hear the
beacons when you hear no other traffic higher up in the band. 10M
just isn't glamorous, some OT hams calling it the "kiddie band." And
you risk running in to the Ten-Tenners (I am told). ;^)

I scan for the beacons myself but even when they are not coming through, I
still scan the band for propagation to areas that just might not have a
beacon but is open due to phenomena like E skip.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE