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(WA8ULX) wrote in message
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Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to
there
Free
Handout Ham Licenses?


We didn't "lose" 11M, we just had use CB reddios radios

It's "reddios" on 11M and radios on 12M and elsewhere. "When in Rome
do as the Romans do."

Sorry, Brian. Within the circles that I operate, It's "radios." (On both 11m
and the ham bands. YMMV.)

It sure does!!

FYI, folks here are QSX when they're monitoring
the frequency. I rarely hear the annoying "I'm QRT and on the side" anymore,
thank goodness. :-)

I was involved in trying to use CB for it's original intended purpose
in the mid-'70s in 23 channel days. Specifically for comms for a
municipal Townwatch group of 135 citizens 95% of whom had no interest
at all in hobby radio and just wanted reasonably decent local
neighborhood mobile comms. The disgusted group would have fallen apart
if I hadn't moved the operation up onto a VHF business freq to get
away from the CB crud. Cost a bundle but they're still on that freq.

Every once in a blue moon when I've had absolutely nothing better to
do with my life I've gotten on 27Mhz and looked for intelligent life.
On the rare occasions when I've actually found some it lasts maybe
five minutes at most before the bozos blow it off the freq.

YMMV . . !

w3rv

(WA8ULX) wrote in
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Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order
to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the
corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who
don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have
to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot.

All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the
ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us
over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio
Service.



No Code.... No Ham!

"No Code, No Ham" wrote:
(WA8ULX) wrote in
:

Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

-snippage-
Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump.

--
GO# 40

wrote:
"No Code, No Ham" wrote:

(WA8ULX) wrote in
:


Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.


-snippage-
Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump.

hey mopar did ya get to see the new audioslave video on mtv showing
challengers and coronets? brings back memories of the old mans '70
coronet 440 with a 383....first car i broke a 100 in....

jim wrote:
wrote:
"No Code, No Ham" wrote:

(WA8ULX) wrote in
:


Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.


-snippage-
Take that cross posted stink bait outta' here, chump.

hey mopar did ya get to see the new audioslave video on mtv showing
challengers and coronets? brings back memories of the old mans '70
coronet 440 with a 383....first car i broke a 100 in....

No I didn't Jim, I usually scan right past mtv. What is it a
music video from a band called audioslave?

--
GO# 40

Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket. Now that Im a coded tech, I still say,
rid the code test. You may say it dumbs it down, to me it makes for
more conversation and more to converse with. Who wants to talk on a
piece of equipment that cost $1000 + but no-one to hear you? Why not
let these CB'rs get there license so they can learn the principals of
ham radio instead of bootlegging. I realise that you guys are all
stuck in 1950, but WAKE UP!!!!!! This is 2003!!!!! This reminds me,
Wasnt it quite a few years ago that a bunch of HAMS like yourselves
were complaining about solid-state over tube? Oh my god! There dumbing
down radio with RF transistors!!!! What is next!!!!! Quit whining and
get involved in making the radio better for all. All you pro-coders
are just wasting your breath. They still make tubes, but you have a
choice if you want to use tube or transistor equipment. Isnt that
nice, To have a choice? I chose to advance in my hobby by going to
Extra soon, and I dont need a code holding me back. Do you actually
think that the bad CB'rs are going to go get a license so they can JAM
and CUSS at you? NO!!! The good ones will! So where is the FREE at?

Cya, wouldnt want to be ya.

73
KF6FOZ


On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:44:19 -0000, "No Code, No Ham"
wrote:

(WA8ULX) wrote in
:

Do Hams get 11 Meters Back, as soon as all the CBers upgrade to there
Free Handout Ham Licenses?


There has been a free ham license ever since the codeless tech was
introduced a few years back. The 5 wpm code requirement has further
moved things in that direction. Idiots on the ham bands.

11 meters has come to the ham bands. I listen to the bands and it's
certainly not the way things were in the 1980's when I got licenced. I
might as well just listen to CB channel 19, it all sounds the same now.

ARRL plan back fired on them. They worked to dumb things done in order
to produce more licensee's who might join the organization and fill the
corporate bank accounts, but instead, they got a bunch of idiots who
don't care bacause getting a license is easy now and when you don't have
to work to get the benefits, the benefits you get don't mean a whole lot.

All real hams out there who remember how the bands used to be, send the
ARRL a nasty-gram and cancel your League memberships. They screwed us
over big time by not protecting the integrity of the Amateur radio
Service.



No Code.... No Ham!

West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

--
GO# 40

wrote:
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat..

--
GO# 40

No, Mopar, the VEs charge. It used to be free at the FCC, but, for me at
least, that meant a 60 mile trip (120 miles round trip) to the FCC in
Buffalo, NY, and one minute of perfect copy at 20 words per minute. When I
had dropped my tickets and decided to retest in 1993, I believe it was under
$6.00 for the session. That was 20 words per minute, but multiple guess.
Now it is 5 words per minute, but the testing charge is considerably higher
(don't ask me, I don't know. I simply showed up for the tests in '93. You
don't have to score 100%). So, while someone may pay for the exam, that 120
mile round trip savings is worth something. Don't worry too much though. I
hear the FCC is going to try to package the licenses in boxes of Cracker
Jax.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

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wrote:
West Coast Radio wrote:
Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.

You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?

Heads up. This guy is your next extra class. dit dat..

--
GO# 40


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wrote:

West Coast Radio wrote:


Sounds like you old pro-coders are getting upset! I worked and had to
pay to get my no-code ticket.



You paid someone to help you get through a dumbed down IQ test?



Application fee. It's not as if he was guaranteed to pass by paying
someone....