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August 18th 03, 09:14 PM
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The BPL of rrap
Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap!
The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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August 19th 03, 07:14 AM
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In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap! The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? It's definitely a four-way tie between Kim, Lennie, Brian, and Dwight! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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August 20th 03, 02:02 AM
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , Mike Coslo writes: Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap! The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? It's definitely a four-way tie between Kim, Lennie, Brian, and Dwight! 73 de Larry, K3LT Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Kim W5TIT |
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#5
August 20th 03, 09:01 AM
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Did you notice anything noteworthy about this thread, Kim? It mainly consists of those like Larry (the pro-code troublemakers) maliciously nominating people without code skills. These guys, specifically Larry, claim the no-code crowd is always the ones attacking them, while they're simply defending themselves with the rhetoric they spew. Instead, what is seen here is an example of the real truth - Larry and his ilk targeting specific people in the hopes of dragging them into an argument and the no-code crowd not nominating anyone in the hopes of avoiding an argument. It does say a lot about the character of the two groups, doesn't it? Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
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August 20th 03, 10:55 AM
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"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. . "Kim W5TIT" wrote: Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Did you notice anything noteworthy about this thread, Kim? It mainly consists of those like Larry (the pro-code troublemakers) maliciously nominating people without code skills. These guys, specifically Larry, claim the no-code crowd is always the ones attacking them, while they're simply defending themselves with the rhetoric they spew. Instead, what is seen here is an example of the real truth - Larry and his ilk targeting specific people in the hopes of dragging them into an argument and the no-code crowd not nominating anyone in the hopes of avoiding an argument. It does say a lot about the character of the two groups, doesn't it? Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ Yep. You got it... Kim W5TIT |
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#7
August 20th 03, 02:27 PM
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(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. BTW, other than Mark Morgan, to WHOM do you refer as "never served"...The nature of just about everyone's (regulars, that is...) military or government service here is well documented. For countless lies, mistruths (especially that one about "get my Extra Lite out of the box...) and use of profanity and insults... We have all desired things which we have not achieved. Ahhhhhh....too true. But then none of us here have "not achieved" anything for which we were so otherwise eminently qualified, now have we...?!?! Of if anyone has, they are not making an issue of it! The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ |
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#8
August 21st 03, 07:21 AM
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"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote:
(snip) Furthermore, it is the "no code" crowd (really only two or three people) who keep making "code testing" debates out of EVERY subject brought to this forum. For example, NO ONE who is "pro code" made an issue of the code at all. We simply (and so far accurately) pointed out the rantings of a few. Steve, you obviously didn't notice that the people Larry nominated are those he most often targets with his code debate ramblings. By mentioning those people here, his ultimate goal was to bring that debate here. After all, the main reason he disagrees with those people, hence his nomination here, is their opposition to his position on code. Therefore, any response to his nomination of those people had to include something about the code debate. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
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#9
August 21st 03, 12:16 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? BTW, other than Mark Morgan, to WHOM do you refer as "never served"...The nature of just about everyone's (regulars, that is...) military or government service here is well documented. Brian Kelly/W3RV. For countless lies, mistruths (especially that one about "get my Extra Lite out of the box...) and use of profanity and insults... We have all desired things which we have not achieved. Ahhhhhh....too true. But then none of us here have "not achieved" anything for which we were so otherwise eminently qualified, now have we...?!?! Of if anyone has, they are not making an issue of it! Point. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? |
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#10
August 22nd 03, 01:12 AM
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In article ,
(Brian) writes: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. "DX" as a term/phrase, came from commercial communications folks standing for "distance." It used a very long time ago as a kind of morse code shorthand. Steamy just doesn't know about that. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. :-) Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Steamy cannot possibly understand the importance of primary comm needs of an area command or that it must continue to be available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. Back before the DSN and optical fiber lines and communications satellites, the primary long- distance communication medium was HF radio. Army radio ADA served the all-branch Far East Command in the early 1950s and never failed...even during a 3-hour solar flare in 1955 that disrupted the longest circuites...the shorter ones continued to operate uninterrupted. "Overwhelming power" must be the 4 KW PEP Western Electric LD-T2, all of 6 db higher than maximum legal US amateur RF output. It could be the old Press Wireless 15 KW CW (but always used FSK TTY), the 40 KW Collins-made AN/FRT-22 didn't arrive until 1955. All that plus a small airfield containing the wire antennas helped "Get The Message Through" 24/7. The thousands who were assigned to ADA didn't have much choice but to make sure the communications got through. It did. Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli. Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. :-) For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. Steamy can't handle real truth. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. Steamy is louder than any BPL QRM in here. :-) For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they are pejoratives. Fact is, long ago I served in the US Army and was assigned to a Signal Battalion that had 19 casualties (all killed) on July 1, 1950, in Korea. They and the four USAF crew members were on a TDY under direct orders from General MacArthur's headquarters to help improve the communications in Korea during the first two weeks of the Korean War. In the next six years there would be four more members of that Signal Battalion who became casualties of the Korean War and the Korean Truce (which is still in effect, the War never being officially over). I've stood retreat for those 19 and the billet where I was in for nearly two years was renamed for one of the casualties, Cpl Elmer Hardy. Hardy Barracks still exists today in Tokyo, much reduced in size, but still holding the offices of the Pacific Stars & Stripes military newspaper. Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. He still lives in a fantasy world of amateurism where ONLY amateur radio has "conquered" HF and ALL radio communications is rated and gauged by amateur recreational and hobby activities on HF radio. That is a terribly elitist...and very false...viewpoint. All it shows is his ignorance of the larger world of commercial and government radio. Steamy can't admit to such ignorance. To do so would be to "lose face" and he would disgrace his personal opinion by such admission. He MUST keep up the image of the "expert," the "pioneer of HF radio" through amateurism of the 1930s. Such is a substitute for his terminated military career. He glories in the rank, status, privilege of amateur extra and looks down on all not achieving his personal stature...typical of those who have not achieved much rank, status, or privileges in real life. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steamy has his Fantasy. He can change the "truth" in that Fantasy to be whatever he wants. It pleasures him greatly to heap abuse on those who have made it in the real world and done more than he was able to do. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. :-) Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? Steamy is still wrapped up in his Fantasy. I've had a full working career in radio-electronics and that is archived in records other than "Google." My military record is archived at NARA in St. Louis and Eugene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, served in my Signal Battalion at the same time I did. Gene is also in retirement from a career at FAA but very much alive. My colleague at Rocketdyne and manager at RCA is Jim Hall, KD6JG. A good friend is Al Walston, W6MJN, who was Best Man at my wedding. I've been in contact with Jim Brendage, a civilian engineer at ADA and a former USAF NCO who served at ADA's old transmitter site after the USAF took over all HF comm in 1963. The callsign of the US Army Pacific Headquarters (Hawaii) is still ADA. According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls anything I say a "lie." It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a psychotic. Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to brag. Leonard H. Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
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