And don't try to tell him anything about the FCC. He used to know a
guy that used to work at the FCC, so he knows all about it. Past,
present, and future.


LOL!

Yea, well... i'll tell you what... I know what i'm talking about, because
I myself was told by this dude I use to know a while back, that did
some stuff.... and afterwards, I heard it all from him... and now I know
stuff.

really, I do. I know stuff.

Clint
KB5ZHT

I have clipped the intermediate sections of the reply, but
kept the useful ones that Dick Carroll posted for my
following analysis....




"Dick Carroll" wrote in message
...

snip
Babble, babble, babble & rave on! Brainiac, the Village Idiot at his
finest!

snip
BTW how would YOU know what size hole goes in the roof of cars?
You beern there and done that, hey???

snip
You sure are a fart smeller!


Dick Caroll has resorted to insults and name-calling. He's obviously run
out of debate tactics and ideas, and never in the first place had any
facts to support his position. He's lost the argument.

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...


The FCC does NOT use the term "ham" in Part 97. That's the LAW.

interesting topic spin-off, but I once researched where the term "ham" came
from... the only thing I could find was that it was simply a *******ization
of
the term "amateur"

clint
kb5zht

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article , Dick Carroll
writes:


What's to "promote," senior?

I like how you picked up on his condescending use of the age reference...

I remember on the local VHF frequencies once I got in an argument on the
air about (guess what???) cw testing... and the fellow I was arguing with
(oviously several years my elder) tried to belittle and detract from the
factual approach of my argument by referring to me as "young man"....
you know, "let me tell you what, YOUNG MAN, ...... etc etc..."

so I had the PERFECT come back. I told him "okay, we'll end the
debate right here; you are judging the accuracy of the debate and,
thus, who wins, solely on who's older, not who's more correct. I'll
go find my friend [not included here for discreetness], who just
celebrated his 82'nd birthday; i'll let him talk on my behalf and just
feed him the lines to say, and since he's OLDER than YOU, that
means i'm automatically right, even if he, vicariously through me,
claims the moon is made out of green cheese, right?"

as I recall, not too much was said after that.

it's so easy.

Clint
KB5ZHT

And Clint says Dee was spurious?

- Mike KB3EIA -


um, yea...... you see, the tactic I emplyed is called
reductio ad absurdum.... that is, demonstrating
absurdity by being absurd.

sorry you didn't "get it"

Clint
KB5ZHT

Come on Bill! NO knowledge of much of anything is needed as a
foundation. Thousands of CB ops say otherwise!

- Mike KB3EIA -


and on the citizen's band they'll stay; they will not be legally
able to get on the ham bands until they pass whatever test the FCC
dictates that they have to. If it just so happens that it no longer
includes CW, then they will simply be ham radio operators that
didn't have to take a cw test.

Clint
KB5ZHT

you're mad because YOU had to do it, bottom line.

Yep, in a nutshell. When the gubmn't said, "Jump!" DICK replied, "How
High?"

Now he feels foolish.

more or less a "bovine" mentality isn't it? the whole herd, mooing and
everything,
was herded into the trailers to be taken to the slaughterfactory.... and to
it they
went.

now that the times have changed and don't require it, they're mad because
we're smart enough to realize we don't have to respond to the cattleprods
and go up that ramp into the trailers... and off to the factory, just like
THEY did....

Clint
KB5ZHT

You and Clint are the pair in a nutshell with no clue as to how to get
out.


non-relavent statement that pertains to nothing, means nothing, and proves
nothing. basically a blanketing statement meant to provoke and insult.
nothing more.

You ARE foolish. Your past history proves it.

more of the same, with the self-fullfilling statement preceding it.

Clint
KB5ZHT

spurious analogies are in the PCTA handbook, bill.

Clint
KB5ZHT

Heh heh heh...too bad that "spark" is outlawed.

PCTA types would demand that ALL hams know "spark" theory and
operating skills if it was still legal... :-)

LHA

Oh, MAN! GOOD POINT!!!!
that's what I like about forums, enough people share ideas and group X
thinks of things that group Y didn't, and vica versa... just where IS
the PCTA's emphasis on "basics" and such, when the very basic
beginning is not only NOT pushed upon them, but outlawed?

Oh, it's TOO sweet!!!!!!

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...

Keep 1896 alive and well in the hearts of all amateurs.


yea, so much for "advancing the radio art" and so forth... that would
basically turn it into "freeze the radio art in time, and dam any possible
advancement or progress"