If enough people say that conditions are too poor for SSB some people will
be daft enough to beleive it.

Whats the difference most of these New people actually believe they are Real
hams anyway

"Alun Palmer" wrote in message
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Dave Heil wrote in
:

Alun Palmer wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article , Alun Palmer
writes:

EI is the 7th country to abolish code testing by my reckoning

Ireland: Beautiful country, lovely people, but the same dumbed-down
hams! Not to worry, I'm sure us Yanks won't be far behind!
73 de Larry, K3LT

Newsflash! - Singapore has abolished the code test. Now there are
eight.

Wow! That's quite a policy statement from a country with a little more
than 120 radio amateurs and it comes hot on the heels of the big move by
Ireland with its slightly more than 1,500 hams.

Dave K8MN


I just did a quick recount, and 9V is the 9th country, not the 8th. They
are Switzerland, the UK, Belgium, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands,
Norway, Ireland and Singapore.

The funny thing is the only no-coder I have yet heard on HF was PE1RMZ. I
know that this is a Dutch no-code call from the time I worked PE1DUP
through a UK repeater. It takes time to get on HF I suppose. I was
surprised that no-one appeared to have been ready in advance.

You can try to pretend that 9V and EI don't matter, but look at the bigger
picture. You know where this will all end, and a d*mn good thing it is
too. If it wasn't for the bl**dy code test I would have been licenced and
on HF at 14.

I was licensed at 14 for HF. Why couldn't you do it? You handicaped? Or
just lazy?

Yeah buddy I sure would wait around for decades, feeling sorry for myself,
and joining NCI......sheesh.

Alun Palmer wrote in message . ..
Dave Heil wrote in
:

Alun Palmer wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in
hlink.net:


"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , Alun Palmer
writes:

EI is the 7th country to abolish code testing by my reckoning

Ireland: Beautiful country, lovely people, but the same dumbed-down
hams! Not to worry, I'm sure us Yanks won't be far behind!
73 de Larry, K3LT

Newsflash! - Singapore has abolished the code test. Now there are
eight.

Wow! That's quite a policy statement from a country with a little more
than 120 radio amateurs and it comes hot on the heels of the big move by
Ireland with its slightly more than 1,500 hams.

Dave K8MN


I just did a quick recount, and 9V is the 9th country, not the 8th. They
are Switzerland, the UK, Belgium, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands,
Norway, Ireland and Singapore.

The funny thing is the only no-coder I have yet heard on HF was PE1RMZ. I
know that this is a Dutch no-code call from the time I worked PE1DUP
through a UK repeater. It takes time to get on HF I suppose. I was
surprised that no-one appeared to have been ready in advance.

You can try to pretend that 9V and EI don't matter, but look at the bigger
picture. You know where this will all end, and a d*mn good thing it is
too. If it wasn't for the bl**dy code test I would have been licenced and
on HF at 14.

How do you reconcile your "plight" with the fact that many youngters
under 14 have passed 20 wpm code tests?

w3rv

In article , Alun Palmer
writes:

You can try to pretend that 9V and EI don't matter, but look at the bigger
picture. You know where this will all end, and a d*mn good thing it is
too. If it wasn't for the bl**dy code test I would have been licenced and
on HF at 14.

Alun:

Me too. However, by the time I was 28, I realized I was just being too
damn lazy, got off my duff, and learned the code! That was 22 years
ago. What's your excuse?

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

How do you reconcile your "plight" with the fact that many youngters
under 14 have passed 20 wpm code tests?

AND all the *written* tests.

The youngest extra I know got that license at the age of 8. That was before
restructuring, when there were 5 *written* tests.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

We're talking about two countries
with a little over 1,600 radio amateurs between them.

Maybe you know the answer to this one, Dave:

How many amateurs are there in the 9 countries that have dropped code testing?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Alun Palmer wrote:
I just did a quick recount, and 9V is the 9th country, not the 8th. They
are Switzerland, the UK, Belgium, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands,

Austria not yet.

Unfortunately there are more important issues at the moment,
see: http://tinyurl.com/lmm3 and http://tinyurl.com/nkt0
HF would be worth nothing if this is passed as an EU
directive.

/ralph

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
hlink.net:


"Alun Palmer" wrote in message
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Dave Heil wrote in
:

Alun Palmer wrote:

"Bill Sohl" wrote in
hlink.net:


"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , Alun
Palmer writes:

EI is the 7th country to abolish code testing by my reckoning

Ireland: Beautiful country, lovely people, but the same
dumbed-down hams! Not to worry, I'm sure us Yanks won't be far
behind! 73 de Larry, K3LT

Newsflash! - Singapore has abolished the code test. Now there are
eight.

Wow! That's quite a policy statement from a country with a little
more than 120 radio amateurs and it comes hot on the heels of the
big move by Ireland with its slightly more than 1,500 hams.

Dave K8MN


I just did a quick recount, and 9V is the 9th country, not the 8th.
They are Switzerland, the UK, Belgium, Germany, Austria, the
Netherlands, Norway, Ireland and Singapore.

The funny thing is the only no-coder I have yet heard on HF was
PE1RMZ. I know that this is a Dutch no-code call from the time I
worked PE1DUP through a UK repeater. It takes time to get on HF I
suppose. I was surprised that no-one appeared to have been ready in
advance.

You can try to pretend that 9V and EI don't matter, but look at the
bigger picture. You know where this will all end, and a d*mn good
thing it is too. If it wasn't for the bl**dy code test I would have
been licenced and on HF at 14.

I was licensed at 14 for HF. Why couldn't you do it?

Because I had trouble learning the bl**dy code

You handicaped?

Only if you include difficulty learning CW

Or just lazy?

Yeah buddy I sure would wait around for decades, feeling sorry for
myself, and joining NCI......sheesh.


I eventually passed code in 1993, but if it weren't for the *@#%^&! code
test I could have had an HF licence in 1971.

(N2EY) wrote in
:

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

How do you reconcile your "plight" with the fact that many youngters
under 14 have passed 20 wpm code tests?

AND all the *written* tests.

The youngest extra I know got that license at the age of 8. That was
before restructuring, when there were 5 *written* tests.

73 de Jim, N2EY


They were better at code than I am. It doesn't correlate with age, or
intelligence. I could have passed all the theory at 14.

N2EY wrote:
In article , Dave Heil
writes:

We're talking about two countries
with a little over 1,600 radio amateurs between them.

Maybe you know the answer to this one, Dave:

How many amateurs are there in the 9 countries that have dropped code testing?

176,685 in the year 2000 according to

http://www.iaru.org/statsum00.html

The UK and Germany are the bulk of that number.

Dennis Ferguson