(Brian) wrote in message . com...

Now you've done it. Rev Jim will stop reading at this point ?(unless
he invokes the PCTA double standard).

Did you enjoy it? What antenna (aerial) did you use? What detector
(receiver) did you use?

MIG, TIG, or ordinary ARC welding?

STOP! Do not attempt to inject authority into the equation.

Imagine if he had forgotten where he had put his microphone, re Larry,
Dick, an Moe.

Alex-ANDERSON has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

Wonder if Mother Brakob lived in a shoe?

Cudbe a Jody song for the USN?

Yet another example of emulating your pathological liar mentor, Brain?

Steve, K4YZ

(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?

What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.

Steve, K4YZ

Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
"N2EY" wrote in message
om...
[snip]

How will we counter that argument?


One approach would be to stop planting it in peoples'
minds numerous times a day ... things that are repeated
often enough sometimes catch on, even if they are BAD
ideas ...


Hoo, Carl. I think that has to be a null here. Your comments on Morse
code might be looked at as the same thing.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Dick Carroll wrote in message ...

(huge snippage)

You really should try to keep up with Fred and his cohorts.

Dick,

Fred who?

They're
about to leave you behind to enjoy, with the rest of us, what little
useful part of ham radio that will be left, if any, when you-all are
finished.

There's an old story about how a frog tossed into a pan of hot water
will jump right out, but if put in a pan of cool water that is slowly
warmed, frog will be cooked before noticing the gradual change in
temperature.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dick Carroll wrote in message ...
Steve Robeson, K4CAP wrote:
(Brian) wrote in message . com...

(N2EY) wrote in message ...

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:


Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?


What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.


I used to think that Brian had missed something. Turns out he missed
everything!

ROTMFFLMMFAO ! ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ

In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Oh jeesh Larry, add more to the alphabet soup eh? (PCTA, NCTA, ECTA,
etc.)

Ryan:

Y knot?

73 de Larry, K3LT

predicate
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

And, DICK, what modes would be your failure to communicate your way of an
emergency if the fate of the planet depends on it? I wish, for once, you'd
answer an honest question.

Kim:

Dick can't possibly answer this question because it doesn't make sense.
It is missing several important parts.

I suspect it'll be the usual, though. Complete
silence because my question is not only one you can't answer (yeah, I'll
make the bet that you are *NOT* proficient in all available modes of ham
radio), and it's also one that makes a counter to the point you attempted to
illustrate, above.

So, DICK, what mode would be our shortcoming if we were all looking to you
to "save the planet?"

Good thing you restated the question. OK, Dick, proceed. She asked for it.

73 de Larry, K3LT

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?

What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.

Steve, K4YZ

I think I already know and understand Jim's game. He built an
Elecraft kit, then professes to have engineered and built his own
amateur station.

73, Brian

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om...
Dick Carroll wrote in message ...
Steve Robeson, K4CAP wrote:
(Brian) wrote in message . com...

(N2EY) wrote in message ...

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:


Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?


What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.


I used to think that Brian had missed something. Turns out he missed
everything!

ROTMFFLMMFAO ! ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ

What kind of "AO" are you laughing off?

(N2EY) wrote in message ...

How'd I miss this?

Here's an experience I had recently (post-restructuring):

Relatively new ham got started via the Tech route. Decided he wanted HF and
passed the required elements, including code, which was learned from CDs and
computer software.

But then he discovered that learning enough code to pass the test was a far
different thing from copying and sending live on the air in a real QSO.

Now remember, this ham had already passed all the code tests he'd ever need to
pass. He had all bands and modes open to him, and a nice HF station set up.
There was absolutely no requirement that he ever do any Morse code operating at
all, ever. Nor was there any requirement to spend more time and effort learning
to send and copy real-world off-the-air Morse.

But this ham *wanted* to use the mode, based on its merits alone. With a small
amount of help and encouragement, he learned the skills of on-air copy,
sending, abbreviations, procedure, etc.

I had the privilege and honor of being his first CW QSO. Since then he's had
many more, his skills have improved, and he's on the way. CW SS is a few
weekends away.........

Well Folks, the "relatively new ham" Jim is referring to is me. I too
am priviliged and honored, especially so to have worked my Elmer as my
first CW contact. Was passing Element 1 easy? Yeah, once the
characters started flowing. Was working another AR station OTA using
CW for the first time easy? Nope...but it gets better, and more so
every time out. The common denominator is the feeling of
accomplishment and the associated pride that comes from both
experiences. If any other newbies are out there reading this, DON'T
let ANYBODY minimize this factor. Experience it for yourself and then
YOU be the judge. Betcha you'll like it.

So when folks talk about having to demonstrate Morse "proficiency" to
get on HF, don't believe 'em. Memorizing 43 Morse code characters and
passing Element 1 at 5-wpm is nowhere near any level of "proficiency"
needed to effectively get OTA. What it did do for me though was allow
me to make an educated decision as to whether I wanted to pursue it
any further or not. The new QSL cards on the wall speak for themselves
re. my feelings about CW's merits.

Worked a fellow in Rochester, NY (From LI, NY.) with a QRP rig putting
out 2.5 Watts into a dipole, simply fantastic. I'm fortunate enough to
live in an antenna friendly neighborhood, HOWEVER, no antenna
restrictions could ever keep me off the air with this type of QRP
capability available. I'll bet many a wire get dropped from windows to
work 40 at night. (Very affordable too.) That's just one example of a
practical real-world benefit, there are more that Jim's already
touched on. Something to think about.

And this ham is the kind who will share what he has learned with others and
repeat the cycle. Test or no test.

You betcha! My first customer is in first grade.

TNX AGN N2EY es CUL.

--
73 de Bert
WA2SI