Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy bible.

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Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order
to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to
be
a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.



Surely not )another lamebrained analogy - one more emptyhead strikes a
blow for nothingness!


If you have no other refutation than to call it "lamebrained" then you have no
argument at all. You show that you are incapable of engaging in any form of
intelligent debate on the matter.


It has always been true that one cannot be persuaded when he refuses
to review the evidence. QED.


If there is evidence that I've overlooked, as you claim, please post it.

(No-coder) wrote


The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

If a "religion" is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable
statements, then Kurt Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion,
it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"No-coder" wrote in message
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Even though the testing for code was reduced to the basic 5 WPM over three
years ago, it's obvious that the debate still rages on.

The insistance that a person know Morse Code at a resonable speed in order
to
be "real ham" is similar to religious fanatics, particualrly Christian
fundamentalists, who think that a person has to believe in god in order to
be a
good and moral person. They cannot prove that their god even exists. So
with
the PCTA, they cannot prove that code is useful in light of communications
advancements that have been made over the past several decades.

Just as certain fundamentalists would like to turn the country into a
Judeo-Christian theocracy, so would certain hams go back to an outdated
communications scheme, simply because they think that Morse code is their
"god."

To expect prospective hams to believe in the fairy tale of morse code is
the
the same as expecting people to believe in the fairy tales of the holy
bible.


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

In article , "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

We pity that, Dan, many of us were optimistic that you could be
repaired...

Sorry to hear of it.

LHA

In article ,
says...


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.

In article ,
says...

If a "religion" is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable
statements, then Kurt Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion,
it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one.

73, de Hans, K0HB

That's if a religion is defined as such, but that isn't the case in the real
world. Mathematics has never been used to suppress people the way that religion
has been used, and continues to be used today. (although a college student that
has flunked calculus and can't graduate might not think so)

So, as with morse code testing, there are a few that hold onto it like a
religion.

(No-coder) wrote

That's if a religion is defined as such,
but that isn't the case in the real
world.

All reality is local at the observer.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"No-coder" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...


Just further proof of my favorite statement....

"Ya just cain't fix stupid"

Dan/W4NTI

I had hoped that my post would generate a level headed debate on this
analogy.
Apparently, you are incapable of that, and can only resort to ad hominem
attacks.


Just answer me this then....why would we bother with A N O T H E R code vs
no-code debate? In the last 10 years there has been thousands of them here.
In otherwords your a day late and a dollar short.

Try another troll.

Dan/W4NTI

"No-coder" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...


If you have no other refutation than to call it "lamebrained" then you
have no
argument at all. You show that you are incapable of engaging in any form
of
intelligent debate on the matter.

The PCTA's never have been able to. They quickly deplete thier very shallow
pool of "debate points", which are easily refuted and defeated such as the
old & dead "it's basic to all radio communication" (that one still makes me
laugh)...
and quickly they MUST resort to name calling such as "lamebrained" because
they have NO other cards in their hand. They have nothing to lean on. All
they
do is either put you on thier killfile list (read: I can't factually support
my stand
so therefore i'm going to just ignore you! so there! *nyah!*) or they start
name calling. "lamebrain" is one of the new ones; generally the pro code
dinosaurs start using "lazy", "stupid" and "moron" interspersed with various
vulgarities.

Clint
Easily whipping the PCTA's