In article , JJ
writes:


Larry Roll K3LT wrote:

Precisely. On amateur radio, one never knows when one will encounter
something which may make someone think twice about our hobby being
a wholesome and proper activity for a young person. When that happens,
whether or not what was said was "legal" within the letter of the law, the
potential exists for the effect to bring the ARS "...one step closer to
extinction."

73 de Larry, K3LT

Larry, our society has pretty much come to the point that people don't
care what others think of them any more.

JJ:

sigh Yes, isn't that the truth?

Foul, vulgar language is used
so much now that it is spoken in homes as if it were accepted language
and the kids pick up on it.

Every time I run into one of those potty-mouthed kids, I feel like feeding them
the business end of a baseball bat -- after it had been accelerated to home-run
hitting velocity!

I have heard five year olds use words that I
would never dared to speak in front of an adult when I was a youngster.

I have had my mouth washed out with soap (by a teacher at school no
less, would like to see one try that now), for saying much less.

I remember one time I called one of my brothers a *******. I was too young
to even know what the word meant. My father overheard me -- he immediately
made me go to my room, say an Act of Contrition, and immediately go to
bed for the rest of the evening. Before slamming the door of my bedroom,
he asked if I knew what a "*******" was, and I said no. Now I do. To this
very day I wish I'd looked in the dictionary before using that word!

I grew up in a farming community and when around the men, sure a few
cuss words would fly occasionally, especially when the wrench slipped
and a busted knuckle was the result, or over at the local shop where the
farmers gathered as their trucks and tractors were being serviced, a
hell or damn was pretty common, but never in a public place where women
and children were around.

As a youth in my mid-teens, I used to hang around one of the local gas
stations myself, so I can certainly identify with the colorful language.
However, whenever a female customer came in, everyone was strictly
on their best behaviour. One day this past summer, I was at a local
gas/convenience store, and a lady walked in and said to the young girl
behind the counter, "How come that ____ing pump won't ____ing turn
on for me?" I immediately replied, "because it's probably turned off by
your foul language!" You can imagine how she responded, but it's not
printable here, even with a lot of blank spaces.

There was respect for others then. It isn't
uncommon for me to step into an elevator with my wife and hear others
using very vulgar language with no regards to who is listening and may
be offended by such language. The sad part is, they think it is just
accepted that everyone has lowered themselves to such a common level.

Indeed. I myself, partly due to my having been exposed to the common
element during my military service, used to occasionally allow my language
to ripen a bit. I am now extremely cautious about that, and try to present
myself in a very polite, considerate manner at all times.

Ever set at the mall and just watch the people pass by? Look at the
sloppy dress, some look like they stepped out of a cartoon. Few have
pride in themselves anymore. And if you really want to see some
sloppyness, go to a ham fest. It is a sad commentary on our society today.

Yes. I myself like to dress comfortably; my off-duty "uniform" consists
almost exclusively of kakhis and a pullover shirt, and New Balance
trainers. But my clothes are always clean and in good order -- I wouldn't
want to be caught dead dressed in the sloppy, baggy, totally disorganized
manner young people seem to prefer these days. I wonder who they
think they're impressing. Anyone dressed like that coming to me for a job
is only going to get my standard warning about the door.

73 de Larry, K3LT

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

(snip) One day this past summer, I was at a local
gas/convenience store, and a lady walked in and
said to the young girl behind the counter, "How
come that ____ing pump won't ____ing turn on
for me?" I immediately replied, "because it's
probably turned off by your foul language!" You
can imagine how she responded, but it's not
printable here, even with a lot of blank spaces.


LOL. That is funny, Larry. I would have paid to have been there to see
that.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

Foul, vulgar language is used
so much now that it is spoken in homes as if it were accepted language
and the kids pick up on it.



Every time I run into one of those potty-mouthed kids, I feel like feeding them
the business end of a baseball bat -- after it had been accelerated to home-run
hitting velocity!


Way back in the late 60's when I was in Catholic high school, and away
from adults
with direct authority over us (parents or teachers or cops) we sometimes
had
contests to who could out-vulgar each other. Like yelling dirty
comments from the
school bus as we passed our arch rival (football league) school.
Probably as
"venting steam" when away from the excessive discipline they used to do
in Catholic
schools back then (each nun was issued 15 inch rulers...). What they
call "child
abuse" nowadays. If "fear-loathing-hatred" = "respect", then we "respected"
authority. It didn't help things any when the entire class got punished for
something, whether or not if you individually were guilty of whatever it
was.

/rant

Anyway, the kids are likely just blowing off steam, purposly being
annoying to adults as a kind of payback for their teachers and parents
annoying them. You see it say when high school kids walk in the street
partially blocking traffic in areas where sidewalks are avaliable.
And kids using bad language in the Mall, "what are they gonna do
to us?".

Most young adults grow out of this by the time they get real jobs
(not McJobs) and ham licenses.