Hello, Dwight.

Although way off topic (as are many threads here), I couldn't resist this
one.

They say where there is smoke, there is fire. The smoke is so thick around
Michael Jackson that they will probably argue that the smoke is too thick so
you can't see and therefore prove fire. I'll grant the one arguement that
will come up - there will be folks out to make money. But it would appear
that this may well not be the case this time. What really galls me is that
some folks that have a *lot* of money (I'm talking hundreds of millions of
dollars) or political connections appear to be able to buy their way out of
nasty situations (Whitewater comes to mind here as well as OJ).

Personally, I think the guy is right off his rocker, but the name of the
game should be to protect society (especially kids). Since his close call
in the early 90s hasn't seemed to have any effect on him, he is going to
have to be put away somewhere where he can't cause more damage(assuming he
is convicted). I still worry about what money can buy. If he isn't able to
buy out the victim, he can sure afford to buy a ton of attourneys. How does
one district attourney with a staff of attourneys that are already very busy
deal with someone who can keep a stable full of attourneys coming in from
every direction?

I also believe that he married Lisa Marie Presley as a smoke screen. How
many divorces so far? I believe, and please correct me if I am wrong, that
he was never married until that mess 10 years ago or so. Suddenly, he gets
married. And divorced. And ... so on and so on.

Frankly, I don't care what someone does in bed - as long as they leave kids
and non-consenting adults out of it; especially kids.

I totally agree with your accessment as to classic symptoms of a pedophile.
Neverland should be renamed Never - Ever land. Why just the kids and not
the whole family? I believe he was paying his security guards $18.00 per
hour over 10 years ago. For the wealthy, this may well be normal - but it
also tends to keep those guards' mouths shut.

Sorry for the long ramblings. I suspect, as do you, that this case is going
to be another media circus court case. In all honesty, where are they going
to find jurors? Oh - I forgot, the Michael Jackson fans. I'd be hard put
to be impartial with all of the other known facts (none of which is that he
actually molested a kid, but, as I mentioned, there is a ton of smoke and I
guarantee there is a fire).

If he isn't convicted, how old do these characters get before their libido
finally slows down?

Sorry for being so long winded, Dwight, but this case has me quite upset
(and I think most folks should be upset).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

'cmon. Read the headers. You just fed a troll

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
I'm a no code tech and a Michael Jackson fan too. don't be mean to my
hero.


Are all you CBplussers like MJ?

Dwight,

I almost agree with you except on that "clear and present danger". I
wouldn't want my kid to go near that place; then again, you mention there is
no law against stupidity. Sigh ...

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

)

Thanx for a chuckle, Mike!


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
t...
N8WWM wrote:

i wish i could sleep over jackos house.

Too old?

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
news
Hello, Dwight.

Although way off topic (as are many threads here), I couldn't resist this
one.

They say where there is smoke, there is fire. The smoke is so thick
around
Michael Jackson that they will probably argue that the smoke is too thick
so
you can't see and therefore prove fire. I'll grant the one arguement that
will come up - there will be folks out to make money. But it would appear
that this may well not be the case this time. What really galls me is
that
some folks that have a *lot* of money (I'm talking hundreds of millions of
dollars) or political connections appear to be able to buy their way out
of
nasty situations (Whitewater comes to mind here as well as OJ).

Personally, I think the guy is right off his rocker, but the name of the
game should be to protect society (especially kids). Since his close call
in the early 90s hasn't seemed to have any effect on him, he is going to
have to be put away somewhere where he can't cause more damage(assuming he
is convicted). I still worry about what money can buy. If he isn't able
to
buy out the victim, he can sure afford to buy a ton of attourneys. How
does
one district attourney with a staff of attourneys that are already very
busy
deal with someone who can keep a stable full of attourneys coming in from
every direction?

I also believe that he married Lisa Marie Presley as a smoke screen. How
many divorces so far? I believe, and please correct me if I am wrong,
that
he was never married until that mess 10 years ago or so. Suddenly, he
gets
married. And divorced. And ... so on and so on.

Frankly, I don't care what someone does in bed - as long as they leave
kids
and non-consenting adults out of it; especially kids.

I totally agree with your accessment as to classic symptoms of a
pedophile.
Neverland should be renamed Never - Ever land. Why just the kids and not
the whole family? I believe he was paying his security guards $18.00 per
hour over 10 years ago. For the wealthy, this may well be normal - but it
also tends to keep those guards' mouths shut.

Sorry for the long ramblings. I suspect, as do you, that this case is
going
to be another media circus court case. In all honesty, where are they
going
to find jurors? Oh - I forgot, the Michael Jackson fans. I'd be hard put
to be impartial with all of the other known facts (none of which is that
he
actually molested a kid, but, as I mentioned, there is a ton of smoke and
I
guarantee there is a fire).

If he isn't convicted, how old do these characters get before their libido
finally slows down?

Sorry for being so long winded, Dwight, but this case has me quite upset
(and I think most folks should be upset).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


Well, personally, I think it's rather interesting that it is the Michael
Jackson story that draws such a debate--when the Catholic priests, bishops,
and whomever else in the Catholic Church, have been in the news for at least
the last two years...and with increasing evidence, admitted guilt, admitted
"sweeping it under the rug," and adults who were kids when they were raped
by the priests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the Michael Jackson
case(s), there have been no convictions--only speculation and rumors
thusfar.

I am not pointing up innocence or guilt--only puzzled by the weirdness of
frenzy for the Michael Jackson story; when we have a whole host of
tragedies--*proven* not just supposed--from the Catholic Church... I just
don't get you folks...

Kim W5TIT

"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

Oh good grief. This is ludicrous! Do you realize what a mockery you are
making of the United States legal system?

The US legal system has made a mockery of itself, without any help from
Larry & Dwight. OJ walked, MJ will walk, Malvo will cop insanity, Scott
Peterson will walk, and Zacarias Moussaoui is making a fool of our inept
Attorney General Ashcroft.

73, Hans, K0HB

In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

Were you watching Fox television yesterday? They had a woman on who is
still planning to send her son to sleep over with Jackson, even after all
that has happened over the last few days. Don't ask me why she would do it.
I have absolutely no idea why anyone would do something that stupid.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

Dwight:

I hope she was wearing a strait jacket, and being attended by two of those
nice young men in the clean white coats while she was giving that interview.

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

He is obviously GUILTY because he has never taken an amateur
radio test or earned that epitome of radio respect: Morsemanship.

I will suggest that you contact the FCC and put forth a petition to
have Jackson permanently banned from having anything to do with
U.S. amateur radio.

dit dit

Lennie:

This thread is off-topic, by the admission of the poster who initiated it.
So far, everyone except Bruce, Kim, and yourself has recognized that
fact and has replied accordingly.

That's all I'm going to say; I'll allow everyone else to draw their own
conclusions.

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article ,
(WA8ULX) writes:

Rumor has it MJ is also a No Code CBplusser. I wonder if he is an NCI Member?

Bruce:

MJ is a sick, emotionally-twisted weirdo. What does that have to do with
being an NCI member? NCI members are simply people who disagree with
the concept of Morse code testing as a licensing requirement in the ARS.
There's nothing illegal or mentally ill about taking such a stand. To say that
there is only allows them to make the same claim about those of us on the
PCTA side.

Statements such as the one you made above are nothing less than pure
silliness, and do not serve to advance any legitimate cause.

73 de Larry, K3LT

I've thought about that too. But, how would we hold them responsible -
stupidity isn't a crime in this country? Letting a child sleep with an adult
is certainly stupid, but we'd have to prove more than that to actually hold
the parents responsible. And I can't think of anything specific in the laws
we can apply to the parents in this case. Child endangerment is the only
thing that comes close, but I don't even think that would fly. To convict,
you'd have to show the parents should have known there was a clear and
present danger. Since JUST sleeping with an adult is not illegal, that may
be a tough case to prove. Anyway, since you said "something" in the first
paragraph (not anything specific), perhaps you're having the same problem
I'm having.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

Dwight:

Any adult, other than a parent, sleeping with a child is just plain sick --
period, End Of Story. Even in the case of parents, it is definitely not a good
idea and should be discouraged to the greatest extent possible, although
there are occasional, and rare, times when it may be OK to comfort the
child in unusual circumstances causing emotional stress.

Any parent permitting their child to attend "Neverland" ranch, with it's
accused child molester and world-famous weirdo in residence, is simply
exercising nothing less than a criminal level of negligence. Criminal
charges should be sought against the parents of the 12-year old boy in
question, and he should be immediately removed from that home and
placed in protective custody in a registered foster care facility.

73 de Larry, K3LT