Brian wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

That isn't my point, Dan. That wasn't a good signal W1AW was putting
out, and it was making a mess out of the local neighborhood. Usually PSK
and OOK Morse get along just fine.

My point is that by coming out with a ratty signal, W1AW was doing what
so many hams were complaining about K1MAN does. Fire it up, and too bad
for the rest of you.

That and wondering what a CW signal Bandwidth was in the first place.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, Mike, my boy, you just don't understand.

The ARRL is kind of like that "Home on the Range" song... where never
is heard a discouraging word, and the skies are not cloudy all day.

Don't be sayin nuttin bad bout the ARRL, nor their flagship broadcast
station W1AW. You'll get the wrath of the Old Man himself when you
get up to the Pearly Gates.

I'll carry a Wouff Hong wit' me for protection!!

- Mike KB3EIA -

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , Mike Coslo writes:

That wasn't a good signal W1AW was putting
out, and it was making a mess out of the local neighborhood.

Are you sure the W1AW signal was dirty? An overloaded receiver or
soundcard
will do exaclty what you describe.

That doesn't mean it's impossible that W1AW had a problem, just that all
things
need to be checked out. Have you listened to W1AW since then?

Usually PSK and OOK Morse get along just fine.

Depends on who's doing what. 3579 used to be a popular "glowbug" frequency
for
Morse folks using simple rigs and a colorburst crystal. Then the freq was
taken
over by PSK-31 due to the popularity of the "Warbler".

My point is that by coming out with a ratty signal, W1AW was doing
what so many hams were complaining about K1MAN does. Fire it up, and too
bad
for the rest of you.

W1AW transmits bulletins and code practice on a published schedule, and is
on
every HF amateur band simultaneously. Been doing that for almost 70 years
now.
However, the signal should be clean.

Didja email them? Even that "professional" Harris stuff can go wacko.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I agree with Jim. If their signal had a problem, I'm sure that they would
want to know so email them about it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


That wasn't a good signal W1AW was putting
out, and it was making a mess out of the local neighborhood.


Are you sure the W1AW signal was dirty? An overloaded receiver or soundcard
will do exaclty what you describe.

I'll never say never, but I don't think it was too likely. I tried a
number of things with the RTTY party last weekend, and even though there
were lots of strong, wide signals, the few psk signals on at the same
time were no problem to copy. And the other people on the air had to be
suffering the same malfunction I might have been.



That doesn't mean it's impossible that W1AW had a problem, just that all things
need to be checked out. Have you listened to W1AW since then?


Usually PSK and OOK Morse get along just fine.


Depends on who's doing what. 3579 used to be a popular "glowbug" frequency for
Morse folks using simple rigs and a colorburst crystal. Then the freq was taken
over by PSK-31 due to the popularity of the "Warbler".

My point is that by coming out with a ratty signal, W1AW was doing
what so many hams were complaining about K1MAN does. Fire it up, and too bad
for the rest of you.


W1AW transmits bulletins and code practice on a published schedule, and is on
every HF amateur band simultaneously. Been doing that for almost 70 years now.
However, the signal should be clean.

Didja email them? Even that "professional" Harris stuff can go wacko.

Well, I thought about it, but after the reaction of a number of people
here that I think know more about the suject than I do, I would imagine
they would write it off to pilot error.

- Mike KB3EIA -

I suspect that for Farnsworth - just use the character speed - not the
overall speed with extended spacing.

--
73 From The Wilderness Keyboard
"Brian" wrote in message
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"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message
news:JhiKb.46924$m83.10369@fed1read01...
Someone wrote;
That and wondering what a CW signal Bandwidth was in the first
place.
------------------------

From the ARRL License Manual 1976:

CW Bandwidth = wpm X 4
"With proper shaping, the necessary keying bandwidth is equal to 4
times the speed in words per minute for International Morse Code;
e.g. at 25 words per minute, the bandwidth is approximately 100 cycles.
e.g., 40 WPM = approximately 160 Hz"

Does the ARRL License Manual of 1976 address Farnsworth code and
bandwidth?

"Mike Coslo" wrote


Well, I thought about it, but after the reaction of a number of people
here that I think know more about the suject than I do, I would imagine
they would write it off to pilot error.


Not a chance that you'd have been blown off! The crew at W1AW takes their
responsibility very seriously. You should have sent a quick email to


73, de Hans, K0HB

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo writes:

That wasn't a good signal W1AW was putting
out, and it was making a mess out of the local neighborhood.

Are you sure the W1AW signal was dirty? An overloaded receiver or
soundcard will do exaclty what you describe.

I'll never say never, but I don't think it was too likely.

OK.

I tried a
number of things with the RTTY party last weekend, and even though there
were lots of strong, wide signals, the few psk signals on at the same
time were no problem to copy. And the other people on the air had to be
suffering the same malfunction I might have been.

Certainly possible.

That doesn't mean it's impossible that W1AW had a problem, just that all
things
need to be checked out. Have you listened to W1AW since then?

The reason I ask is that if it only happened that once it was likely their
problem.

Usually PSK and OOK Morse get along just fine.

Depends on who's doing what. 3579 used to be a popular "glowbug"
frequency for
Morse folks using simple rigs and a colorburst crystal. Then the freq was
taken over by PSK-31 due to the popularity of the "Warbler".

My point is that by coming out with a ratty signal, W1AW was doing
what so many hams were complaining about K1MAN does. Fire it up, and too
bad for the rest of you.

W1AW transmits bulletins and code practice on a published schedule, and is
on
every HF amateur band simultaneously. Been doing that for almost 70 years
now.
However, the signal should be clean.

Didja email them? Even that "professional" Harris stuff can go wacko.

Well, I thought about it, but after the reaction of a number of people
here that I think know more about the suject than I do, I would imagine
they would write it off to pilot error.

As Hans said, I doubt that very much! At the very least they'd have someone a
few miles away listen in.

And they have a spare rig for just such situations, too.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone *did* let them know, and it got fixed right
away.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote

There was an ARRL HQ station before W1AW. What was its callsign?

----- W1MK

You are correct, sir! And before that, it was 1MK

There's a second callsign for the ARRL lab. What is/was it?

----- W1INF

"It's Never Finished" - again correct.

More trivia: There is an IARU HQ call sign. What is it?

That's easy: NU1AW

While it may
have a certain familiarity about it, especially the suffix, what is the
significance of the prefix?

The original system for licensed amateur calls was a number and two or three
letters. Maxim held 1AW, for example. This worked fine until amateur began
working internationally and there was no way to tell what country a ham was
in. When the first shortwave QSO was made by in November of 1925, the stations
involved were 1QP, 1MO and 8AB - the last one being in France.

So amateurs invented the idea of unofficial prefixes. "NU" meant "North
america, United states". So while Maxim's call was shown on the license as 1AW,
on the air he would use NU1AW to indicate where he was. Other countries had
different prefixes, all according to the unoffficial system

To emphasize that the prefixes were unofficial, they were usually written lower
case: nu1AW

They had a shift key on their paddles or what??


The situation was finally sorted out at one of the radio conferences of the
'20s (1927, I think) and the USA decided that American ham calls would all
start with W (in CONUS) and K (outside CONUS).

73 de Jim, N2EY

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