All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

I have a completly different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! There is no better time than now, to join the ONLY
voice that Ham Radio has. If you don't like what you, Mr I have no balls,
than turn your radio off! You are not helping anyone!

Like I said, my membership had paid off!!!!!!

In article 7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01, says...

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Actually, it's jerks like you that are intent on destroying everyone's
enjoyment of the hobby. FYI - it's the hams that have entered the hobby
over the last 17 years that have boosted and improved the effectiveness of
the service in times of national emergency. Everyone's sick of listening to
whiners like you with your prognostications of doom and gloom.

Do the hobby at large a favor and go phuk yourself...

"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

I joined last week....

Tracy


On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:40:35 GMT, "So Phuk'em" wrote:


All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

I don't normally respond to anonymous trolls, but I feel compelled to
counter
your statements above.

IF you feel that the ARRL "is intent on destroying (your) enjoyment of the
hobby," you must get your enjoyment purely from a self-delusional sense of
superiority.

I've been licensed for well over 25 years. The ham bands have *not*
"become sounding like CB over the last 17 years" - there have always
been a few bad apples - MANY of them OTs who passed the 20 wpm
Morse test and believe they are some sort of gods.

Yes, new hams may make some operating errors and they may need
a little coaching and immersion in the "culture" of ham radio to get to
the point where they sound experienced. We ALL made such mistakes
when we first got on the air - learning by doing is the best way to learn.

So get off your high horse ...

I was unhappy with the ARRL's policy on Morse testing for a long time,
and I'm still not happy with the aspect of their new proposal that would
keep Morse testing for Extra. (Though I have nothing to gain personally,
since I'm already an Extra.)

HOWEVER, the ARRL does SO much good for ham radio that I finally
decided to take out a life membership - BEFORE their proposal came
out (not knowing what position they'd take on the code test).

If all the OT's bail out on the ARRL over this, they will be cutting off
their noses to spite their face.

I encourage everyone to maintain their ARRL membership. And, I
encourage those who aren't members to join. The best way to influence
the ARRL in a progressive direction is from the inside - join, then talk to
your ARRL Director, make your views known, and let him/her know that
your vote in the next ARRL Director election in your division depends on
their performance.

73,
Carl - wk3c

"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in
times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding
like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making
things
worse. So Phuk'em




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"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
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[snip]
HOWEVER, the ARRL does SO much good for ham radio that I finally
decided to take out a life membership - BEFORE their proposal came
out (not knowing what position they'd take on the code test).

If all the OT's bail out on the ARRL over this, they will be cutting off
their noses to spite their face.

I encourage everyone to maintain their ARRL membership. And, I
encourage those who aren't members to join. The best way to influence
the ARRL in a progressive direction is from the inside - join, then talk
to
your ARRL Director, make your views known, and let him/her know that
your vote in the next ARRL Director election in your division depends on
their performance.

73,
Carl - wk3c


I agree 100%. If one wants to influence the direction of change, they've
got to get in there and do the work. "Taking their marbles and going home"
accomplishes nothing except leave the field wide open for people with other
viewpoints. It removes the necessary balance and resulting debate that is
necessary for progress. Not everyone is going to agree with the direction
and result but the effort that goes into it will usually (but not always)
yield a better result than when a single point of view is allowed to be put
into affect without the scrutiny that comes with such debate.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:

I've been licensed for well over 25 years.

I've been licensed for well over 36 years.

The ham bands have *not*
"become sounding like CB over the last 17 years" -

Not the CW/digital subbands, anyway. The 'phone bands are another story...

there have always
been a few bad apples - MANY of them OTs who passed the 20 wpm
Morse test and believe they are some sort of gods.

SOME of them, anyway.

But ALL of them passed the written tests, too.

Yes, new hams may make some operating errors and they may need
a little coaching and immersion in the "culture" of ham radio to get to
the point where they sound experienced. We ALL made such mistakes

I didn't.

when we first got on the air - learning by doing is the best way to learn.

Not for everything.

I was unhappy with the ARRL's policy on Morse testing for a long time,
and I'm still not happy with the aspect of their new proposal that would
keep Morse testing for Extra. (Though I have nothing to gain personally,
since I'm already an Extra.)

Nor do I...

HOWEVER, the ARRL does SO much good for ham radio that I finally
decided to take out a life membership - BEFORE their proposal came
out (not knowing what position they'd take on the code test).

If all the OT's bail out on the ARRL over this, they will be cutting off
their noses to spite their face.

Agree 100%!

I encourage everyone to maintain their ARRL membership. And, I
encourage those who aren't members to join. The best way to influence
the ARRL in a progressive direction is from the inside - join, then talk to
your ARRL Director, make your views known, and let him/her know that
your vote in the next ARRL Director election in your division depends on
their performance.

Exactly.

So tell us what you think of the ARRL proposal, Carl. We already know about the
code test, so let's just skip that part.

What do you think of:

1) the "NewNovice" idea? (easy entry-level exam, limited power, more HF modes
and spectrum, less VHF/UHF)

2) closing Tech to new issues?

3) free upgrades for Techs and Tech Pluses to General?

4) free upgrades for Advanceds to Extra?

5) widening of some of the 'phone image subbands?


I say 1) and 2) are good ideas. The rest are bad ideas.

What say you?

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:26:17 -0600, "Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD"
wrote:


"So Phuk'em" wrote in message
news:7HmQb.133575$I06.1201849@attbi_s01...

All you old timers & O.M.'s, cancel your memberships! The ARRL board of
directors and section managers are intent on destroying your enjoyment of
the hobby and also in destroying the effectiveness of the service in times
of national emergency. I'm sick at how the bands have become sounding like
CB over the last 17 years, and the League is still intent on making things
worse. So Phuk'em

I have a completly different opinion!

Join the ARRL today! There is no better time than now, to join the ONLY
voice that Ham Radio has. If you don't like what you, Mr I have no balls,
than turn your radio off! You are not helping anyone!

Like I said, my membership had paid off!!!!!!



You couldn't get on HF until it was given to you, lardass.