(William) wrote in message . com...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message hlink.net...

Real hams. Not these wanabees we have today.

Dan/W4NTI

Not real hams. Amateur Radio was suspended at the time, unless you
consider a real ham to be one without operating priveleges.

And hopefully they weren't operating WAR using W3GRF, W0DX,
W9BRD/VA3ZBB, W0US, or other callsigns.

Hey Dan, tell me about these wannabees we have today. C'mon Dan, tell
me about them.

If you unzip very slowly you might get your tie out w/o too much
damage, hihi.

"We've got another bleeder!"

"William" wrote in message
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(William) wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net...

Real hams. Not these wanabees we have today.

Dan/W4NTI

Not real hams. Amateur Radio was suspended at the time, unless you
consider a real ham to be one without operating priveleges.

And hopefully they weren't operating WAR using W3GRF, W0DX,
W9BRD/VA3ZBB, W0US, or other callsigns.

Hey Dan, tell me about these wannabees we have today. C'mon Dan, tell
me about them.

If you unzip very slowly you might get your tie out w/o too much
damage, hihi.


Hey look everybody....another CBPlusser.

Dan/W4NTI

"We've got another bleeder!"

In article ,
(William) writes:

Operators there at that time included W3GRF(sk), W0DX (sk) W9BRD/VA3ZBB,
W0US
and others.

Nice trip down mammary lane, but what has this to do with amateur radio?

TAFKARJ is trying to "prove" something by connecting SK hams
with the U.S. Army and Washington Army Radio of early 1942.

You know, Len, when you want to talk Army radio, its considered
completely irrelevant. Its just NOT Amateur Radio!

When TAFKARJ wants to talk Army radio, it is wholesome and wunnerful,
and has everything to do with amateur radio somehow, even though
amateur radio was OUTLAWED at the time he speaks of.

Careful about those emotionally-loaded words, next thing you know
we will have another Sermon On The Antenna Mount about the
glory and the majesty of morse code.

Washington Army Radio (WAR) had as much to do with amateur
radio as ham-astronauts got into spaceflight through ham radio. :-)

I don't think these guys are complete fools, but there edging their
way over.

Not fools in the true sense. They are just BELIEVERS in the
Church of St. Hiram. None of them had anything to do with Army
radio and so they grasp at idolized imagination straws trying to
promote morse code and the old ways. If they find some scrap
of information that supports their evangelism, they will want to
scrap with anyone about it and its veracity. :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

When TAFKARJ wants to talk Army radio, it is wholesome and wunnerful,
and has everything to do with amateur radio somehow, even though
amateur radio was OUTLAWED at the time he speaks of.

Careful about those emotionally-loaded words, next thing you know
we will have another Sermon On The Antenna Mount about the
glory and the majesty of morse code.

I don't think these guys are complete fools, but there edging their
way over.

Not fools in the true sense. They are just BELIEVERS in the
Church of St. Hiram. None of them had anything to do with Army
radio and so they grasp at idolized imagination straws trying to
promote morse code and the old ways. If they find some scrap
of information that supports their evangelism, they will want to
scrap with anyone about it and its veracity. :-)

"Poor baby. Still INVOLVED with tossing personal insults and nasty
comments to others that don't agree with your views."

--Leonard H. Anderson, Feb. 27, 2004

Dave K8MN

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

Nice trip down mammary lane, but what has this to do with amateur radio?

TAFKARJ is trying to "prove" something by connecting SK hams
with the U.S. Army and Washington Army Radio of early 1942.

As opposed to YOU "connecting" Army KIA's to YOUR service in the
Army three years after they became KIA's, Your Scumminess...?!?!

The rest of your vain, "See, I Know Radio History Better Than
You" rant snipped...You only "proved" that you were enbarrassed that
some "mere amateur" demonstrated as much interest in radio history as
you...

Scumbag. Your wife still sleeping with Ben-Gay undr her nose to
smotehr the stench?

Steve, K4YZ

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

Washington Army Radio (WAR) had as much to do with amateur
radio as ham-astronauts got into spaceflight through ham radio. :-)

Actually, Scummy, WAR has played host to actual licensed Amateurs
as "guest operators" on more than one occassion over it's several
decade history.

Also, if you really knew as much about the space program as you
allude, you'd know that at least two Astronauts have credited Amateur
Radio as thier "intro" to technology in grade school and subsequent
career path to engineering.

Too bad your career path in engineering wasn't sufficient to
prepare you for licensure in Amateur Radio. Maybe a licensing course
at a local middle school...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

Not fools in the true sense. They are just BELIEVERS in the
Church of St. Hiram. None of them had anything to do with Army
radio and so they grasp at idolized imagination straws trying to
promote morse code and the old ways. If they find some scrap
of information that supports their evangelism, they will want to
scrap with anyone about it and its veracity. :-)

"Poor baby. Still INVOLVED with tossing personal insults and nasty
comments to others that don't agree with your views."

--Leonard H. Anderson, Feb. 27, 2004

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"

--Leonard H. Anderson on occassions too numerous...

Steve, K4YZ

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message thlink.net...
"William" wrote in message
om...
(William) wrote in message
. com...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net...

Real hams. Not these wanabees we have today.

Dan/W4NTI

Not real hams. Amateur Radio was suspended at the time, unless you
consider a real ham to be one without operating priveleges.

And hopefully they weren't operating WAR using W3GRF, W0DX,
W9BRD/VA3ZBB, W0US, or other callsigns.

Hey Dan, tell me about these wannabees we have today. C'mon Dan, tell
me about them.

If you unzip very slowly you might get your tie out w/o too much
damage, hihi.


Hey look everybody....another CBPlusser.

Dan/W4NTI

DAn, I never held a license that said "plus" on it. You'll just have
to do better than that.

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

The core of network messaging in the military of WW2 was the
teleprinter, principally the militarized models from the Teletype
Corporation headquartered in Chicago...as were Hallicrafters and
Motorola. Teleprinters were ideal for integrated communications,
operating well over both wirelines and radio, capable of 60 words
per minute continuously, needing only to be fed paper and ribbons
and some occasional oil.

The image of the lone morseman with headphones and hunched
over his code key saving the nation was only that...an image...no
relation to reality. That image is UNreal.

LHA / WMD

Loonie:

Er, I mean, "Lennie." Sorry. How come the "image of the lone morseman
with headphones" is so predominant, if it is not true? In virtually every
depiction
of WWII-Era military communications, the mode being used is Morse/CW.
I know had have known many WWII-Era military radio operators, and they
were all able to use Morse/CW conversationally at speeds in excess of
50 WPM. They told tales of pulling duty watches in which they spent the
entire time with headphones on listening for message traffic in CW. While
they have also spoken of the use of radioteletype, for the most part, that
was used only for the most routine, non-secure message traffic, and mainly
within the CONUS between military installations and defense manufacturing
facilities (which were on a landline net).

Your credibility is zero. You claim that Morse/CW was essentially
unheard of as a primary military communications mode, when, in fact, all
of the evidence is that exactly the opposite is true.

OK. You hate CW. We get it. There's no need to make a barefaced
liar out of yourself to prove your point.

73 de Larry, K3LT

ospam (Larry Roll K3LT) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

The core of network messaging in the military of WW2 was the
teleprinter, principally the militarized models from the Teletype
Corporation headquartered in Chicago...as were Hallicrafters and
Motorola. Teleprinters were ideal for integrated communications,
operating well over both wirelines and radio, capable of 60 words
per minute continuously, needing only to be fed paper and ribbons
and some occasional oil.

The image of the lone morseman with headphones and hunched
over his code key saving the nation was only that...an image...no
relation to reality. That image is UNreal.

Some Snippage

Your credibility is zero. You claim that Morse/CW was essentially
unheard of as a primary military communications mode, when, in fact, all
of the evidence is that exactly the opposite is true.

Leonard H. Anderson has never had a problem with misrepresenting
the truth even when the evidence to the contrary was plentiful and
well known to all concerned.

That he feels compelled to continue to make a mockery of his
"character" and humiliate his family name so readily in a public forum
should be adequate evidence that this old man is NOT dealing with a
full deck.

He's ill. That's all there is to it.

OK. You hate CW. We get it. There's no need to make a barefaced
liar out of yourself to prove your point.

Ooooooops! Too late!

73

Steve, K4YZ