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March 11th 04, 02:20 AM
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KDK FM2015R Manual Needed
I have an old FM2015R that I want to restore. Does anyone have a
schematic and/or owner's manual they'd be willing to sell, trade or otherwise share? 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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March 11th 04, 04:52 AM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: I have an old FM2015R that I want to restore. Does anyone have a schematic and/or owner's manual they'd be willing to sell, trade or otherwise share? Go to - http://www.w7fg.com and check his listing. Prompt, courteous service for manual copies of many kinds. No! Don't do it! Everything I write here you call a LIE and distortion! It can't be true! Don't go there! No! Don't take that advice. DO go there! But, if you think everything I write is a LIE you can't believe it! No! Don't go, it is a LIE! Don't go there! But, but, but...that is a LIE and can't be correct so you must go! Repeat rant until EVERYONE, including your multiple personaliteis, are fully satisfied! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHEEEEEEEHAWHAWHAWHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! |
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March 12th 04, 03:23 AM
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In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: I have an old FM2015R that I want to restore. Does anyone have a schematic and/or owner's manual they'd be willing to sell, trade or otherwise share? Go to - http://www.w7fg.com and check his listing. Prompt, courteous service for manual copies of many kinds. No! Don't do it! Everything I write here you call a LIE and distortion! It can't be true! Don't go there! A couple of points, Lennie... First of all, I have never said EVERYTHING you write is a lie or distortion. YES you have. Plus a LOT more in the form of excessive personal insults of many kinds. I HAVE publically stated in this forum that I acknowledge that you know far more about the inner workings of the box than I do. You have NEVER said anything in public about "my having far more (knowledge) about the inner workings of the (FM2015R) box." NEVER. If the "FM2015R" is an amateur radio, then, by YOUR own rules in here, I cannot possibly know anything about it because I have "zero" experience in amateur radio. Your "definition" is multiply faulty. I have learned many many things about radio and have applied them in all disciplines of such radio. All radios work by the SAME physics regardless of any human legislation or advertising/marketing or membership organizations say. When YOU respond in a fraternal, respectful manner I ahve done the same (ie: a couple years ago when I asked about plastic model sources...Your INITIAL response was polite, precise and appreciated) I am NOT a "member of any fraternity." Mentions in public of other sources in this newsgroup is done for the BENEFIT of all, not for any 'fraternalism.' All public access newsgroups are readable by all and are NOT one-on-one private correspondance. But, YOU cannot ever remain "in phase" with what you say and MUST vent your rage against another you personally dislike. That is exemplified by the following - What I ALSO have said is that you lie and mislead people about the character of the AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE, that you find it necessary to use demeaning and belittling endearments in order to place yourself above everyone else, and that your purpose in doing so is for mere spite, nothing else. (ie: your SECOND response to the above referenced item wherein you made a 180 deg turnabout and resumed your typical snide manner) Tsk, tsk, tsk. You have been taken to task for demonstrating an unusual personal mythos about amateur radio that is not real. That has already been explained to you. You refuse to accept it...and must continue to dwell on your peculiar personal outrage and disagreements...which you did as shown. You inadvertently LIE in stating I say "bad things" about the Amateur Radio Service. I do NOT. I state up front that I say bad things about INDIVIDUALS who have amateur radio licenses, because they do so. YOU do NOT represent ALL of U.S. amateur radio. Ergo, you cannot transpose your personality to that of ALL U.S. radio amateurs. (they would feel or should feel insulted by such a gross misrepresentation) YOU cannot seem to accept the slightest correction or rebuke or even difference of opinion to your own personal opinions with any sort of civility. YOU can't handle the truth and typify the "Colonel Jessups" of your imaginary "service" world.* That you started off on a purely fraternal offer of information for another radio hobbyist was appreciated. YOU have repeatedly claimed that I am not allied in any way with U.S. amateur radio. Now you claim "fraternal offers." A LIE of a LIE by yourself. [how hypocritical can 'done peyote...' be?] The "W7FG Manuals" service is an old one and links to the business are made on many websites of interest to hams as well as hobbyists. There are many businesses involved in supplying service manuals for electronic equipment, easily found by a simple Search function available at all major ISPs. I suggest a review of the functions available to AOL users as a benefit to your own education for Internet operations. That you finsihed off in your usual spiteful slashing was typical. At elast this time you did it all in one post... There is NO "elast" in or about time. TRY to control rage and anger when typing. Clean copy is a positive attribute in communications. PS...Thanks for the tip, Len. WHAT "tip?" W7FG has been supplying manuals for a long time. I never looked to see if your particular part number was available there. I just pulled down a copy of an H-P 606A signal generator manual that I obtained from there two years ago. The business name (using an amateur radio callsign, a grey area in "non- pecuniary" definition of amateur radio in a business name) is printed predominently on its cover. Did you go to the www.w7fg.com site to check for yourself? Or didn't you just shoot off your keyboard in personal rage and anger about imaginary slights against your attitudes and opinions in long-ago discussions now defunct? Why are you always so angry and rage-filled, wanting to fight all the time? Have you seen an analyst or therapist to cure that aggressive, uncivil behavior? Try getting on the list for the first copy of "Ham Radio for Dummies" that is rumored to arrive in April. Get one. You may learn something about the insides of radio and electronics boxes and become productive in your amateur community. Keep up that good work on the morse code and making sure that all U.S. prospective radio amateurs MUST take that code test forever and ever. Morse code can be "a significant factor" in emergencies and "play a major role" there as the League blabs. LHA / WMD * "Colonel Jessup" is the character in the film "A Few Good Men" and protrayed convincingly by actor Jack Nicholson. The character of Colonel Jessup was removed from the military court in arrest at the end of the film after the character lost his cool arrogance. "You can't handle the truth!" is Colonel Jessups' now-famous line that reveals his arrogance and imaginary beliefs about those not in the USMC. |
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March 12th 04, 04:26 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: A couple of points, Lennie... First of all, I have never said EVERYTHING you write is a lie or distortion. YES you have. Plus a LOT more in the form of excessive personal insults of many kinds. No, I have not. You'd better re-think that, since Google is at EVERYONE'S disposal. Do you REALLY want me to go pull up an example and PROVE YOU WRONG AGAIN? I HAVE publically stated in this forum that I acknowledge that you know far more about the inner workings of the box than I do. You have NEVER said anything in public about "my having far more (knowledge) about the inner workings of the (FM2015R) box." YES, I have, although not SPECIFICALLY about the FM2015R... I have SPECIFICALLY stated that I acknowledge that your superior knowledge of the inner workings of "the box" (refering to electronic devices generically) on SEVERAL occassions. Again, if you put me to the task of wading through all thos Google archives to once again prove you WRONG, I will, but then I will have bragging rights on you for the next decade. NEVER. Never say never, Pumpkin...cuz if you DO, it WILL come back to HAUNT YOU! If the "FM2015R" is an amateur radio, then, by YOUR own rules in here, I cannot possibly know anything about it because I have "zero" experience in amateur radio. The FM2015R is an elctronic device designed to be used primarily by licensed Radio Amateurs. I don't fault your knowledge of electronics...I fault your knowledge of AMATEUR PRACTICE. I am sure you were an adequate bench technician at some point in your life, and could probably do OK with current technology. Your "definition" is multiply faulty. I have learned many many things about radio and have applied them in all disciplines of such radio. All radios work by the SAME physics regardless of any human legislation or advertising/marketing or membership organizations say. And as I have sated over and over and over, Lennie... It's NOT about the physics of radio...It's about application... When YOU respond in a fraternal, respectful manner I ahve done the same (ie: a couple years ago when I asked about plastic model sources...Your INITIAL response was polite, precise and appreciated) I am NOT a "member of any fraternity." I did not say you were a member of a fraternity. Please QUOTE the EXACT statement wheerein you alledge that I said you did. Mentions in public of other sources in this newsgroup is done for the BENEFIT of all, not for any 'fraternalism.' All public access newsgroups are readable by all and are NOT one-on-one private correspondance. But, YOU cannot ever remain "in phase" with what you say and MUST vent your rage against another you personally dislike. That is exemplified by the following - What I ALSO have said is that you lie and mislead people about the character of the AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE, that you find it necessary to use demeaning and belittling endearments in order to place yourself above everyone else, and that your purpose in doing so is for mere spite, nothing else. (ie: your SECOND response to the above referenced item wherein you made a 180 deg turnabout and resumed your typical snide manner) Tsk, tsk, tsk. You have been taken to task for demonstrating an unusual personal mythos about amateur radio that is not real. That has already been explained to you. You refuse to accept it...and must continue to dwell on your peculiar personal outrage and disagreements...which you did as shown. Lennie, there is nothing about Amateur Radio in any aspect of which I participate that is "not real". You have TRIED to "explain" your OPINION on Amateur Radio, but in as much as you have NO practical experience from which to substantiate your comments, you usually falter in facts! You inadvertently LIE in stating I say "bad things" about the Amateur Radio Service. I do NOT. I state up front that I say bad things about INDIVIDUALS who have amateur radio licenses, because they do so. I have not lied, inadvertently or otherwise. Furthermore YOUR above statement is in-and-of-itself untrue. You BLATANTLY stated the American Radio Relay League is dishonest. When tasked with providing something OTHER than your opinion, you have failed to do so. No evidence = Obvious lie. YOU do NOT represent ALL of U.S. amateur radio. Ergo, you cannot transpose your personality to that of ALL U.S. radio amateurs. (they would feel or should feel insulted by such a gross misrepresentation) No, I don't. But I "represent" enough who share some of the same opinions when it comes to YOUR honesty, integrity and character. YOU cannot seem to accept the slightest correction or rebuke or even difference of opinion to your own personal opinions with any sort of civility. YOU can't handle the truth and typify the "Colonel Jessups" of your imaginary "service" world.* I accept lots of "corrections"...Especially when it's brought to my attention in the same fashion that the bearer would like to beaddressed if the shoe were on the other foot. And it's not YOUR place to "rebuke" anyone in this forum. You don't have the experience in Amateur practice from which to make an informed correction. That you started off on a purely fraternal offer of information for another radio hobbyist was appreciated. YOU have repeatedly claimed that I am not allied in any way with U.S. amateur radio. Now you claim "fraternal offers." A LIE of a LIE by yourself. [how hypocritical can 'done peyote...' be?] You are NOT "allied in any way with U. S. amateur radio"... GOOGLE is not "allied" with Amateur Radio, yet I can find information from it, too...Shall we get the FCC to send Google a license? The "W7FG Manuals" service is an old one and links to the business are made on many websites of interest to hams as well as hobbyists. Congratulations on having this bit of knowledge at hand. There are many businesses involved in supplying service manuals for electronic equipment, easily found by a simple Search function available at all major ISPs. I suggest a review of the functions available to AOL users as a benefit to your own education for Internet operations. I was willing to take the info you suppled, say "tahnks" and be on my way. You found it necessary to add the lampooning. No problem. I can play too. That you finsihed off in your usual spiteful slashing was typical. At elast this time you did it all in one post... There is NO "elast" in or about time. TRY to control rage and anger when typing. Clean copy is a positive attribute in communications. A typo is not about rage or anger. It's about the wrong finger on teh wrong key at the wrong time...Nothing else. PS...Thanks for the tip, Len. WHAT "tip?" W7FG has been supplying manuals for a long time. So...?!?! You can't take a bit of gratitude for your efforts? If someone doesn't know about something and you inform them of it, you just gave them a "tip". I didn't know about W7FG. Now I do. If I am asked a similar question by anotehr person, I'll pass it on. I never looked to see if your particular part number was available there. I just pulled down a copy of an H-P 606A signal generator manual that I obtained from there two years ago. The business name (using an amateur radio callsign, a grey area in "non- pecuniary" definition of amateur radio in a business name) is printed predominently on its cover. Did you go to the www.w7fg.com site to check for yourself? Or didn't you just shoot off your keyboard in personal rage and anger about imaginary slights against your attitudes and opinions in long-ago discussions now defunct? No, I've not gone to the W7FG site yet. That's for the weekend. Nothing I stated in either post addressed the functionality of the W7FG site or whether or not I found what I am looking for. My comments were directly relevent to YOUR shooting your mouth off again. Why are you always so angry and rage-filled, wanting to fight all the time? Have you seen an analyst or therapist to cure that aggressive, uncivil behavior? Why did YOU feel compelled to express YOUR anger? Why are YOU so "rage-filled" about Amateur Radio that you feel compelled to spend an obscene amount of time lambasting persons who DO love it? I am in this forum becasue I am a LICENSED Radio Amateur. If anyone needs a therapist, it's you, Putzy One. Try getting on the list for the first copy of "Ham Radio for Dummies" that is rumored to arrive in April. Get one. You may learn something about the insides of radio and electronics boxes and become productive in your amateur community. Too late, Lennie...I am already a productive member of the Amateur Radio community. Keep up that good work on the morse code and making sure that all U.S. prospective radio amateurs MUST take that code test forever and ever. Morse code can be "a significant factor" in emergencies and "play a major role" there as the League blabs. Too bad you are so self absorbed in YOUR rage, Lennie, to haev paid attention to other exchanges in the last, oh, two or three years, to know where I really stand on this. * "Colonel Jessup" is the character in the film "A Few Good Men" and protrayed convincingly by actor Jack Nicholson. The character of Colonel Jessup was removed from the military court in arrest at the end of the film after the character lost his cool arrogance. "You can't handle the truth!" is Colonel Jessups' now-famous line that reveals his arrogance and imaginary beliefs about those not in the USMC. Hot flash, Lennie...I WAS in the USMC, and "Colonel Jessup", as portrayed by Mr Nicholson was a fictional character without precedent or model. You try to pidgeon-hole me with some lame rhetoric about "mythos" of Amateur Radio, but then you try and make real-world analogies with fictional movie characters... Yes, Lennie...One of us needs "therapy", but one of them is NOT me... Take another hit of the Geritol, Lennie... Steve, K4YZ |
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March 12th 04, 09:26 PM
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In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: A couple of points, Lennie... First of all, I have never said EVERYTHING you write is a lie or distortion. YES you have. Plus a LOT more in the form of excessive personal insults of many kinds. No, I have not. Google has them all archived. Before that, DejaView had them. You'd better re-think that, since Google is at EVERYONE'S disposal. Then you are truly mentally deranged and unable to tell your own postings from anyone else's. Take your meds like a good little patient. Dismissed. Fall out. LHA / WMD |
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March 13th 04, 04:58 PM
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Is Lennie must be getting lazier...It used to be he'd try to waffle
through at least two or three posts before trying to cut-and-paste his way out of having cornered himself...but this time he didn't even wait THAT long. Ya cudda made "points" with everyone in this forum, Lennie, by just offering the info on the manual and then accepting some gratitude for it's rendering. Instead you had to make it one more opportunity to bad-mouth Amateurs in general, me in particular, and then make the fool that you are even more laughable with even more obvious lame attempts to dig your way out while trying to prove your "superior intellect". (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: A couple of points, Lennie... First of all, I have never said EVERYTHING you write is a lie or distortion. YES you have. Plus a LOT more in the form of excessive personal insults of many kinds. No, I have not. Google has them all archived. Before that, DejaView had them. You'd better re-think that, since Google is at EVERYONE'S disposal. Then you are truly mentally deranged and unable to tell your own postings from anyone else's. Take your meds like a good little patient. Dismissed. Fall out. Lennie...WHO'S the "dill sergeant" now...?!?! LHA / WMD From: Steve Robeson, K4CAP ) Subject: KDK FM2015R Manual Needed View: Complete Thread (6 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy Date: 2004-03-12 07:26:08 PST (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: A couple of points, Lennie... First of all, I have never said EVERYTHING you write is a lie or distortion. YES you have. Plus a LOT more in the form of excessive personal insults of many kinds. No, I have not. You'd better re-think that, since Google is at EVERYONE'S disposal. Do you REALLY want me to go pull up an example and PROVE YOU WRONG AGAIN? I HAVE publically stated in this forum that I acknowledge that you know far more about the inner workings of the box than I do. You have NEVER said anything in public about "my having far more (knowledge) about the inner workings of the (FM2015R) box." YES, I have, although not SPECIFICALLY about the FM2015R... I have SPECIFICALLY stated that I acknowledge that your superior knowledge of the inner workings of "the box" (refering to electronic devices generically) on SEVERAL occassions. Again, if you put me to the task of wading through all thos Google archives to once again prove you WRONG, I will, but then I will have bragging rights on you for the next decade. NEVER. Never say never, Pumpkin...cuz if you DO, it WILL come back to HAUNT YOU! If the "FM2015R" is an amateur radio, then, by YOUR own rules in here, I cannot possibly know anything about it because I have "zero" experience in amateur radio. The FM2015R is an elctronic device designed to be used primarily by licensed Radio Amateurs. I don't fault your knowledge of electronics...I fault your knowledge of AMATEUR PRACTICE. I am sure you were an adequate bench technician at some point in your life, and could probably do OK with current technology. Your "definition" is multiply faulty. I have learned many many things about radio and have applied them in all disciplines of such radio. All radios work by the SAME physics regardless of any human legislation or advertising/marketing or membership organizations say. And as I have sated over and over and over, Lennie... It's NOT about the physics of radio...It's about application... When YOU respond in a fraternal, respectful manner I ahve done the same (ie: a couple years ago when I asked about plastic model sources...Your INITIAL response was polite, precise and appreciated) I am NOT a "member of any fraternity." I did not say you were a member of a fraternity. Please QUOTE the EXACT statement wheerein you alledge that I said you did. Mentions in public of other sources in this newsgroup is done for the BENEFIT of all, not for any 'fraternalism.' All public access newsgroups are readable by all and are NOT one-on-one private correspondance. But, YOU cannot ever remain "in phase" with what you say and MUST vent your rage against another you personally dislike. That is exemplified by the following - What I ALSO have said is that you lie and mislead people about the character of the AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE, that you find it necessary to use demeaning and belittling endearments in order to place yourself above everyone else, and that your purpose in doing so is for mere spite, nothing else. (ie: your SECOND response to the above referenced item wherein you made a 180 deg turnabout and resumed your typical snide manner) Tsk, tsk, tsk. You have been taken to task for demonstrating an unusual personal mythos about amateur radio that is not real. That has already been explained to you. You refuse to accept it...and must continue to dwell on your peculiar personal outrage and disagreements...which you did as shown. Lennie, there is nothing about Amateur Radio in any aspect of which I participate that is "not real". You have TRIED to "explain" your OPINION on Amateur Radio, but in as much as you have NO practical experience from which to substantiate your comments, you usually falter in facts! You inadvertently LIE in stating I say "bad things" about the Amateur Radio Service. I do NOT. I state up front that I say bad things about INDIVIDUALS who have amateur radio licenses, because they do so. I have not lied, inadvertently or otherwise. Furthermore YOUR above statement is in-and-of-itself untrue. You BLATANTLY stated the American Radio Relay League is dishonest. When tasked with providing something OTHER than your opinion, you have failed to do so. No evidence = Obvious lie. YOU do NOT represent ALL of U.S. amateur radio. Ergo, you cannot transpose your personality to that of ALL U.S. radio amateurs. (they would feel or should feel insulted by such a gross misrepresentation) No, I don't. But I "represent" enough who share some of the same opinions when it comes to YOUR honesty, integrity and character. YOU cannot seem to accept the slightest correction or rebuke or even difference of opinion to your own personal opinions with any sort of civility. YOU can't handle the truth and typify the "Colonel Jessups" of your imaginary "service" world.* I accept lots of "corrections"...Especially when it's brought to my attention in the same fashion that the bearer would like to beaddressed if the shoe were on the other foot. And it's not YOUR place to "rebuke" anyone in this forum. You don't have the experience in Amateur practice from which to make an informed correction. That you started off on a purely fraternal offer of information for another radio hobbyist was appreciated. YOU have repeatedly claimed that I am not allied in any way with U.S. amateur radio. Now you claim "fraternal offers." A LIE of a LIE by yourself. [how hypocritical can 'done peyote...' be?] You are NOT "allied in any way with U. S. amateur radio"... GOOGLE is not "allied" with Amateur Radio, yet I can find information from it, too...Shall we get the FCC to send Google a license? The "W7FG Manuals" service is an old one and links to the business are made on many websites of interest to hams as well as hobbyists. Congratulations on having this bit of knowledge at hand. There are many businesses involved in supplying service manuals for electronic equipment, easily found by a simple Search function available at all major ISPs. I suggest a review of the functions available to AOL users as a benefit to your own education for Internet operations. I was willing to take the info you suppled, say "tahnks" and be on my way. You found it necessary to add the lampooning. No problem. I can play too. That you finsihed off in your usual spiteful slashing was typical. At elast this time you did it all in one post... There is NO "elast" in or about time. TRY to control rage and anger when typing. Clean copy is a positive attribute in communications. A typo is not about rage or anger. It's about the wrong finger on teh wrong key at the wrong time...Nothing else. PS...Thanks for the tip, Len. WHAT "tip?" W7FG has been supplying manuals for a long time. So...?!?! You can't take a bit of gratitude for your efforts? If someone doesn't know about something and you inform them of it, you just gave them a "tip". I didn't know about W7FG. Now I do. If I am asked a similar question by anotehr person, I'll pass it on. I never looked to see if your particular part number was available there. I just pulled down a copy of an H-P 606A signal generator manual that I obtained from there two years ago. The business name (using an amateur radio callsign, a grey area in "non- pecuniary" definition of amateur radio in a business name) is printed predominently on its cover. Did you go to the www.w7fg.com site to check for yourself? Or didn't you just shoot off your keyboard in personal rage and anger about imaginary slights against your attitudes and opinions in long-ago discussions now defunct? No, I've not gone to the W7FG site yet. That's for the weekend. Nothing I stated in either post addressed the functionality of the W7FG site or whether or not I found what I am looking for. My comments were directly relevent to YOUR shooting your mouth off again. Why are you always so angry and rage-filled, wanting to fight all the time? Have you seen an analyst or therapist to cure that aggressive, uncivil behavior? Why did YOU feel compelled to express YOUR anger? Why are YOU so "rage-filled" about Amateur Radio that you feel compelled to spend an obscene amount of time lambasting persons who DO love it? I am in this forum becasue I am a LICENSED Radio Amateur. If anyone needs a therapist, it's you, Putzy One. Try getting on the list for the first copy of "Ham Radio for Dummies" that is rumored to arrive in April. Get one. You may learn something about the insides of radio and electronics boxes and become productive in your amateur community. Too late, Lennie...I am already a productive member of the Amateur Radio community. Keep up that good work on the morse code and making sure that all U.S. prospective radio amateurs MUST take that code test forever and ever. Morse code can be "a significant factor" in emergencies and "play a major role" there as the League blabs. Too bad you are so self absorbed in YOUR rage, Lennie, to haev paid attention to other exchanges in the last, oh, two or three years, to know where I really stand on this. * "Colonel Jessup" is the character in the film "A Few Good Men" and protrayed convincingly by actor Jack Nicholson. The character of Colonel Jessup was removed from the military court in arrest at the end of the film after the character lost his cool arrogance. "You can't handle the truth!" is Colonel Jessups' now-famous line that reveals his arrogance and imaginary beliefs about those not in the USMC. Hot flash, Lennie...I WAS in the USMC, and "Colonel Jessup", as portrayed by Mr Nicholson was a fictional character without precedent or model. You try to pidgeon-hole me with some lame rhetoric about "mythos" of Amateur Radio, but then you try and make real-world analogies with fictional movie characters... Yes, Lennie...One of us needs "therapy", but one of them is NOT me... 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