Subject: Wayne Green on C to C AM Thursday 3/18
From: (Michael Black)
Date: 3/18/2004 9:47 PM Central Standard Time
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No, I think Wayne was pretty successful.

Wayne has had his "successes", for sure...

He succeeded in ruining "73" magazine.

He succeeded in making a mockery of himself.

He succeeded in spending a lifetime "dissing" the ARRL, yet everytime a
rallying cry was sounded by those disenfranchised with the ARRL (most of whom
WERE that way BECAUSE of him!) he had some lame excuse as to why he
couldn't/wouldn't do it.

Needless to say, Michael, I disagee. Wayne had the opportunity to be a
significant leader in Amateur Radio's future, but he will be, afterall, nothing
but a footnote in it.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Plus he didn't have any idea on what to do once a lot of his "issues" were
addressed (such as holding W2NSD when living in 1 land)...

Wayne now seems to be a sucker for every half-baked idea that comes along.
(heard the program, sad.)



"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
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Subject: Wayne Green on C to C AM Thursday 3/18
From: (Michael Black)
Date: 3/18/2004 9:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

No, I think Wayne was pretty successful.

Wayne has had his "successes", for sure...

He succeeded in ruining "73" magazine.

He succeeded in making a mockery of himself.

He succeeded in spending a lifetime "dissing" the ARRL, yet everytime
a
rallying cry was sounded by those disenfranchised with the ARRL (most of
whom
WERE that way BECAUSE of him!) he had some lame excuse as to why he
couldn't/wouldn't do it.

Needless to say, Michael, I disagee. Wayne had the opportunity to be
a
significant leader in Amateur Radio's future, but he will be, afterall,
nothing
but a footnote in it.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In article , "Bill Newkirk"
writes:

Plus he didn't have any idea on what to do once a lot of his "issues" were
addressed (such as holding W2NSD when living in 1 land)...

Bill:

What's wrong with holding an out-of-area call sign? I spent seven years as
N3CRA while stationed in Germany and New York, and subsequently spent
six years as WR2F while stationed in Colorado and Delaware. Holding an
out-of-area call sign has been "legal" for at least as long as I've been a ham,
and that's over 23 years now.

Wayne now seems to be a sucker for every half-baked idea that comes along.
(heard the program, sad.)

I heard the broadcast myself, in it's entirety. It made me cringe. If I had
not been
reading his "Never Say Die" Editorials (purely for fun) in 73 Magazine for
years, I
would have thought that this guy was a total fruitcake, and so must be everyone
else who claims to be a "ham radio" operator. I'm concerned that a lot of
non-ham listeners may have reached that very conclusion, but then again, those
who listen to "Coast to Coast" are probably already predisposed in that
direction. The only reason I listened was that I was taking a long night-drive
from Delaware to New York, and that W2NSD just happened to be the "Guest
Nutcase" that evening.

73 de Larry, K3LT

73 failed because of the "dumbing down" of ham radio. I started
subscribing to 73 and Ham Radio, remember that one, because of their
TECHNICAL content and projects. I look through my late 70s and 80s
issues and they are just full of projects.
Yes, Wayne was full of himself. Tho sometimes he said things againest
the arrl that needed saying, causing food for thought.
What killed 73 was solid state "sealed" rigs that could not be modified
and the manufacturing of full featured radios cheap by yesterdays
standards making homebrewing economically unreasonable. Why do you think
Heath, Echo and other kit manufactures closed. Back in those days all
rigs had huge wiring harnesses that HAD to be hand soldered. Real labor
intensive. Labor costs now with solid state and "computer" type boards
is actually the least of the manufacturing cost. A complete turn around
from the '70s & '80s time frame.
Hams, for the most part, quit building and experimenting. So 73's and
Ham Radio's meat and potatoes disappeared.

Dave Bushong wrote:
Sedina II wrote:

Wayne Green W2NSD the editor of the former 73 Magazine
and David Booth (2004 Earth Changes) will be George Noorey's
special guest on Coast to Coast AM
Thursday/Friday evening.

On a 1 to 10 scale this show should be a 12 !!

Show info for the above:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/03/18.html

Main: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/


Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I don't want to pay to listen to him, unless I'm writing a book about
"good examples of a bad example".

Dave Bushong wrote in message ...
Wayne Green. Loser extrordinaire. Failed more ham radio businesses and
magazines than anyone in human history.

I don't want to pay to listen to him, unless I'm writing a book about
"good examples of a bad example".
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wayne Green loser? You can like or dislike the guy but making such
idiotic statements like that make you look like, well, an idiot. Below
are some of Mr. Green's accomplishments, loser eh? How about postings
yours Bushog? 7-11 cashier, wal-mart stocker, truck driver, am I
close? Sounds like you are a loser in life who's more than a bit
jealous than anyone who actually has a successful and fulfilling life.
Do society a favor and die asshole.
Melvin

From http://www.waynegreen.com
Who is Wayne Green? I'm a been there done that guy. I have......

piloted a nuclear attack submarine 800 feet under the Pacific ocean.
piloted an Air Force C5B (it's bigger than a 747).
climbed the Great Wall of China
visited the Chinese terra cotta army in Xian.
operated a ham station from the famed American Embassy in Tehran.
operated from the Korean Demilitarized Zone.
operated for two weeks from King's Hussein's palace in Amman, Jordan.
visited the lost city of Petra in Jordan.
scuba dived in the Red Sea.
visited 133 countries (so far).
helped new technologies such as cellular telephones. personal
computers, and compact discs to grow into major industries.
represented the US at an international communications conference.
represented New Hampshire for Governor Sununu at a governor's
conference in Halifax.
served on the New Hampshire Economic Development Commission.
been a president of the Peterborough NH Chamber of Commerce.
been on the board of directors of billion dollar IDG corporation.
been a professional psychologist.
had over 1,000 (long) editorials published - so far.
started first digital communications magazine in 1951, (Amateur Radio
Frontiers).
started the first microcomputer magazine (Byte). )
started the first computer magazine devoted to a single computer (80
Micro - for the TRS-80)
started the first Apple magazine (InCider).
started the first Commodore magazine (Run).
started the first laptop computer magazine (Pico).
started one of the first personal computer software companies (Instant
Software).
opened computer software stores - eventually sold a national chain of
58 stores.
while in college started a broadcasting station (WRPI) which is now
the largest student activity.
served on the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Board of Overseers and
RPI Council.
served as the First Executive in Residence at RPI.
served as a consultant for the RPI Business Incubator - which won the
1996 prize as the best in the country.
been a licensed amateur radio operator as W2NSD since 1940.
pioneered amateur radio repeaters since 1969, starting with WRLAAB on
Mt. Monadnock NH.
established amater radio in Jordan in 1970 and wrote their rules and
regulations.
supplied and installed the first repeater in Jordan, J-Y73, in 1973.
helped radio amateurs pioneer FM, radio Teletype, single sideband, and
slow scan TV.
bounced amateur radio signals off the Moon from the big dish at the
Arecibo Observatory, PR.
been editing and publishing amateur radio magazines for 47 years.
a state-of-the-art digital recording studio.
four record labels and produced over 150 CDs.
helped re-popularize ragtime music and personally knows all of the top
ragtime performers.
started 25 successful publications in the radio, computer and music
fields.
published over 100 books.
wrote one of the first books on digital communications.
been on an African hunting safari.
visited the ruins of Ba'albek in Lebanon, the Queen of Sheba's water
catchments in Aden.
visited the Pyramids, the Sphynx. the ruins in Athens, the Taj Mahal
and Katmandu.
visited the head-hunter longhouses in Sarawak.
helped organize and lead trade groups of around 250 people to yearly
electronic shows in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong.
given keynote addresses to radio, educational, computer, and music
conferences.
helped invent a new kind of loud speaker - borrowed $1,000 on my car
to start a manufacturing company and within two and a half years it
became the largest speaker manufacturer in the country with seven
factories.
performed in The Mikado and Pirates of Penzance in high school
served as president of radio clubs in high school and college.
served in Navy 1942-1946 in WWII - electronic technician on USS Drum
SS-228 (which is on display at Mobile, Alabama) for five war patrols.
been a radio engineer and announcer in North Carolina, Florida and
Virginia.
been chief cameraman at WPIX-TV (11) in NYC.
produced and directed network TV shows in Dallas and Cleveland.
a reputation as a gourmet cook.
served as president of Porsche Club of America.
raced my Porsche on the Nurburgring and Solitude race tracks in
Germany.
both driven and navigated in many national SCCA car rallies.
served as a founder and first secretary of American Mensa.
a Ph.D. in Entrepreneurial Science.
lectured on entrepreneurialism at Yale, Boston University, Case
Western, Babson College, RPL and many other colleges.
been on the first commercial airline flight between Philadelphia and
New York in 1927.
flown with father since 1922.
served on the FCC's National Industry Advisory Committee (NIAC).
served on the FCC's Long Range Planning Committee (LRPC).
testified before a Congressional hearing on the music industry.
had the usual toys: airplane, Porsche, yacht, Jaguar, Mercedes 600
Pullman limosine.
worked on a Guggenheim grant on a color organ for the Guggenheim
Museum on 5th Avenue.
graduated Bliss Electrical SchooL Tacoma Padc MD.
attended Radio Materiel School on Treasure Island, San Francisco and
graduated as ETM2/c.
served for five war patrols on SS-228 USS Dnun, made ETMI/c.
taught electronics at Submarine School, New London CT.
organized and run successful mail order Elm Stamp Company at age 12.
sung in St. Pauls Church choir as boy soprano.
sung in Philharmonic Choir of Brooklyn.
sung in Erasmus High School Choral Club.
pioneered the 6-meter ham band as the first New York City station on
that band.
run a 6-meter beacon station for several years in cooperation with the
Radio Amateur Scientific Observations (RASO) program.
for years had a VHF/UHF station on Mt. Monadnock NH; regularly heard
for over 600 miles.
been Excutive Secretary of the Music Research Foundation, Madison
Avenue, N.Y.
worked for GE as a test engineer on Army radio equipment.
been an engineer at Airborne Instrument Laboratories in Mineola NY
developing radar equip.
tried marijuana in 1948 to see what it was like.
tried LSD in 1960 to see what that was like.
drunk with shipmates on liberty while in the Navy. Have seldom drunk
since.
tried smoking as a teenager, thought it was stupid. Ignored peer
pressure.
know the real dope on Amelia Earhart's last trip.
been convinced that NASA had to have faked all of the moon landings.
driven from Brooklyn NY to Peterborough NH (250 miles), averaging 100
mph one night - including a gas stop.
interesting friends such as Barry Goldwater, King Hussein, Steve Jobs,
Bill Gates, and Rod McKuen.
been convinced that with proper nutrition and avoiding poisons we ran
dependably live to over 100.
ridden Starlit Night, the Ringling Brothers top show horse.
a professorship of horsemanship and taught riding instructors.
a Hubbard Dianetic Auditor certificate and has processed over 100
patients, with some remarkable successes.
swum the three mile length of Coney Island many times.
investigated crop circles and a UFO hovering over a house in nearby
Francistown NH.
Other than all that I've been taking it easy and having a great time.