The FCC has given all citizens a great tool, in the form of the ECFS,
for commenting on matters under its purview, including matters related
to the Amateur Radio Service.

I thank the Commission for providing that forum for commentary by all
citizens.

Unfortunately, at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge of what is appropriate and inappropriate for other citizens to say
to the Commission.

This citizen has singled out to the FCC the comments of several other
citizens as innapropriate and/or misdirected,

Here is a small sample of his attempts to choose for the FCC which
citizen comments are not appropriate.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

Sorry, Mr. Citizen, but the FCC doesn't need you to determine which
comments are appropriate. ALL CITIZENS may comment.

Sunuvagun, where have I heard that before?

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB

Hans,

They used to do something like that some decades ago. Free elections. You
elect whomever you want. Of course, there was only one person to vote for.
They also decided what was appropriate to say.

The U.S.S.R. fell apart a few decades ago, but that was one place that tried
that - and failed.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...
The FCC has given all citizens a great tool, in the form of the ECFS,
for commenting on matters under its purview, including matters related
to the Amateur Radio Service.

I thank the Commission for providing that forum for commentary by all
citizens.

Unfortunately, at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge of what is appropriate and inappropriate for other citizens to say
to the Commission.

This citizen has singled out to the FCC the comments of several other
citizens as innapropriate and/or misdirected,

Here is a small sample of his attempts to choose for the FCC which
citizen comments are not appropriate.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

Sorry, Mr. Citizen, but the FCC doesn't need you to determine which
comments are appropriate. ALL CITIZENS may comment.

Sunuvagun, where have I heard that before?

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB



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"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
The FCC has given all citizens a great tool, in the form of the ECFS,
for commenting on matters under its purview, including matters related
to the Amateur Radio Service.

I thank the Commission for providing that forum for commentary by all
citizens.

Unfortunately, at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge of what is appropriate and inappropriate for other citizens to say
to the Commission.

Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?

This citizen has singled out to the FCC the comments of several other
citizens as innapropriate and/or misdirected,

Here is a small sample of his attempts to choose for the FCC which
citizen comments are not appropriate.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

That's just his opinion.

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

Found by whom?

Sorry, Mr. Citizen, but the FCC doesn't need you to determine which
comments are appropriate. ALL CITIZENS may comment.

Of course. In fact, noncitizens may comment, I think. Not only that,
but organizations and business concerns may comment as well as
individuals.

The problem is that any system which is as free and open as ECFS is
bound to attract at least a few folks who are not serious about the
subjects being discussed. And it will also attract all sorts of folks
who have an "agenda" that isn't immediately apparent.

Hopefully those at FCC who read the comments will recognize the nature
and spirit of such remarks.

Sunuvagun, where have I heard that before?



But who is it that you refer to, Hans?

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote in message
om...
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net...
The FCC has given all citizens a great tool, in the form of the ECFS,
for commenting on matters under its purview, including matters related
to the Amateur Radio Service.

I thank the Commission for providing that forum for commentary by all
citizens.

Unfortunately, at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge of what is appropriate and inappropriate for other citizens to say
to the Commission.

Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?

This citizen has singled out to the FCC the comments of several other
citizens as innapropriate and/or misdirected,

Here is a small sample of his attempts to choose for the FCC which
citizen comments are not appropriate.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

That's just his opinion.

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

Found by whom?

Sorry, Mr. Citizen, but the FCC doesn't need you to determine which
comments are appropriate. ALL CITIZENS may comment.

Of course. In fact, noncitizens may comment, I think. Not only that,
but organizations and business concerns may comment as well as
individuals.

The problem is that any system which is as free and open as ECFS is
bound to attract at least a few folks who are not serious about the
subjects being discussed. And it will also attract all sorts of folks
who have an "agenda" that isn't immediately apparent.

Hopefully those at FCC who read the comments will recognize the nature
and spirit of such remarks.

Sunuvagun, where have I heard that before?



But who is it that you refer to, Hans?

73 de Jim, N2EY

I noticed the same practice on some of the other petitiions. The FCC marks
them as duplicates, not sure if they're given equal (or any) consideration.

73 de Bert
WA2SI

"N2EY" wrote


Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?


The name of the citizen is not important (and I didn't say it was a
"he"). No amateur radio callsign was evident in any of the persons
comments (dozens of different submissions on several recent RM's)
although the person did claim learning Morse code to the speed of 8WPM.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as
misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

I just thought it presumptous for that to tell the FCC that other
citizens comments were innapropriate.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote


Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?


The name of the citizen is not important (and I didn't say it was a
"he"). No amateur radio callsign was evident in any of the persons
comments (dozens of different submissions on several recent RM's)
although the person did claim learning Morse code to the speed of 8WPM.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as
misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

I just thought it presumptous for that to tell the FCC that other
citizens comments were innapropriate.

73, de Hans, K0HB

isn't it just as bad that you come in here and throw dirt at an unnamed
citizen for the wording of their comments? and not even knowing if they
read here to defend themselves?? or do you know that they read this forum?

"Dave" wrote

isn't it just as bad that you come in here and throw dirt at
an unnamed citizen for the wording of their comments?

I specifically avoided naming the individual so as not to disparge
anyones good name in a public forum.

And unlike you, I have the balls to identify myself, not take anonymous
potshots from behind noone@nowhere.

(Or perhaps you really ARE noone worth paying attention to.) PLONK

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"N2EY" wrote


Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?


The name of the citizen is not important (and I didn't say it was a
"he").

I think you indicated that the citizen is a male, Hans. From your post
that originated this thread:

"at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge"

and

"sample of his attempts to choose"

That's why I thought the citizen was a he.

No amateur radio callsign was evident in any of the persons
comments (dozens of different submissions on several recent RM's)
although the person did claim learning Morse code to the speed of 8WPM.

It should be a simple matter to correlate the citizen's name with the
FCC callsign database. Have you done so?

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as
misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

I wonder if my comments were commented on. I wonder if I was referred
to as "Mr."....

I just thought it presumptous for that to tell the FCC that other
citizens comments were innapropriate.

Of course - but that won't stop some people.

In fact, a large volume of such commentary says more about the
commenter than about those commented on.

In any event, I say let the comments speak for themselves.

73 de Jim, N2EY

It is the little green man in his head.

N2EY wrote:
"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...

The FCC has given all citizens a great tool, in the form of the ECFS,
for commenting on matters under its purview, including matters related
to the Amateur Radio Service.

I thank the Commission for providing that forum for commentary by all
citizens.

Unfortunately, at least one citizen seems to have set himself up as the
judge of what is appropriate and inappropriate for other citizens to say
to the Commission.


Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?

This citizen has singled out to the FCC the comments of several other
citizens as innapropriate and/or misdirected,

Here is a small sample of his attempts to choose for the FCC which
citizen comments are not appropriate.

"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."


That's just his opinion.

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."


Found by whom?

Sorry, Mr. Citizen, but the FCC doesn't need you to determine which
comments are appropriate. ALL CITIZENS may comment.


Of course. In fact, noncitizens may comment, I think. Not only that,
but organizations and business concerns may comment as well as
individuals.

The problem is that any system which is as free and open as ECFS is
bound to attract at least a few folks who are not serious about the
subjects being discussed. And it will also attract all sorts of folks
who have an "agenda" that isn't immediately apparent.

Hopefully those at FCC who read the comments will recognize the nature
and spirit of such remarks.

Sunuvagun, where have I heard that before?




But who is it that you refer to, Hans?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Their name is paranoia.

Dave wrote:

"KØHB" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote


Who is this individual? Does he have a name? An amateur radio
callsign?


The name of the citizen is not important (and I didn't say it was a
"he"). No amateur radio callsign was evident in any of the persons
comments (dozens of different submissions on several recent RM's)
although the person did claim learning Morse code to the speed of 8WPM.


"I consider Mr. Sanford's Comment inappropriate as well as

misdirected"

"I consider Mr.Brakob's Comment inappropriate as well as misdirected."

"Mr. Desany's Comments were found inappropriate..."

"Mr. Oring's Comments are once again found inappropriate..."

I just thought it presumptous for that to tell the FCC that other
citizens comments were innapropriate.

73, de Hans, K0HB


isn't it just as bad that you come in here and throw dirt at an unnamed
citizen for the wording of their comments? and not even knowing if they
read here to defend themselves?? or do you know that they read this forum?