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#32
June 8th 04, 03:15 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. Nope. True. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share KH0. yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation? How inept. What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's quota. Better go easy. |
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#33
June 8th 04, 04:25 AM
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In article , (He's
got it in his wallet Superham) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/6/2004 1:01 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where are nursie's logs from Okinawa? No proof = Nothing happened. Unlike Brain, I can refer you to 15th Air Force Auxiliary Military Radio Service station callsign KA6CM, issued from Yakota, Japan, in August of 1981. "Yakota?" :-) "Refer me?" "Refer anyone?" A USAF MARS station? Oh, my! An whut it say on dat "referral?" Is it hidden from view again? Where are nursie's other claims? No proof = Nothing happened. You were provided adequate information to inquire directly of the Veteran's Administration, Lennie. Not good enough. NARA is the place. National Archives and Records Administration. St. Louis. Since you didn't do it, your assertions of "no proof" are your own undoing, Putzster. Tsk, tsk, tsk. More "meaningful discussion" again. :-) Where and when all dem "hostile actions" Air Force MARSman? If the archives of the federal government aren't good enough for you, Scumboy, I don't know what else I can do. You can try by reading and UNDERSTANDING DoD Directive 4650.2 data 21 Nov 03. It don' say no ham be da hole MARS. "MARS is amateur radio" be da WRONG statement... Temper fry... |
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#34
June 8th 04, 04:25 AM
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Morphing Power Ham Newsgroup Ranger) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/6/2004 11:58 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/5/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Dave Heil writes: We don't know that T5/N0IMD existed. I think it did. Why? Because he "said so"...?!?! That's one reason. Lacking any proof to the contrary, I'm not going to call someone a liar. Then you're a bit more liberal than I am, I guess! =) I figure after two years of being asked yet proactively dodging the ante earns Brain the title. "Dodging?" :-) Nursie, the Hero of "seven hostile actions?" [as yet unidentified as to where and when... :-) ] Nursie who stated (flatly): "MARS is amateur radio?" Nursie who knows all about electronics engineering whose entire electronics career has been a few months at a mid-sized TN set-top box maker as a Purchasing Agent? Sure you can...ie: Antarctica Well, there you have it. It could have happened, and all of the above-named conditions would have been met. And I have yet to meet anyone who WAS "there" that didn't have SOME memento of the occassion. I know three guys who were /KC4 who at least had pics taken at the McMurdo and Little America signs outside the outpost's complex. Right..."seven hostile actions!" Lots of identifying "mementos" there. :-) However even there there are international agreements on who can grant what authority, to whom, and under what circumstances. Of course. I didn't say such operation would be 100% in agreement with international requirements, just that it could happen. Sure it could...and J.Lo might leave her NEW husband and show up on my doorstep begging for me to pleasure her... Oh, my...Fantasy Island time again! :-) I ain't holding my breath. However if she DOES show up, you can be darned sure I will have SOME sort of proof before making outlandish claims! You must have gotten some 190 proof to even think such a thing! :-) Brain was allegedly in a military unit under United Nations auspices, and it seems he did NOTHING to get the PROPER authorizations to do what he CLAIMED to do. Maybe. But that has no bearing on whether the alleged /T5 operation took place, whether logbooks existed, and whether QSLs were exchanged. It has all the bearing in the world, Jim. How can you say that a lack of proper authorization to operate DOESN'T ahve bearing on the operation...?!?! There's not a single Amateur Radio award by any organization that I am aware of that is not predicated on the legitimacy of the operating credentials of the claimant. Oh, my, there he goes...drinking and deriving... :-) Ah...there was NO mention of any "awards" or even "dxpedition" or anything like that. Brian was THERE, on assignment, in the military, and subject to military authority. But, nursie doesn't seem to want to obey any military since he stated "MARS is amateur radio" and never once admitted that the military (from DoD downwards) stated that MARS is a military radio service. He can "operate" all he wants to and exchange a ton of QSL cards, but no license (or authorization or permit or certificate...what ever you want to call it...) and all that operation is worthless. Nursie be da Final Authority. Nothing in radio takes place without he be da Judge! :-) Remember that all it would take to meet all of these conditions would be one QSO in a ham band using stateside calls and portable designation. As long as the legal criteria was met. It's called "obeying the UCMJ." [ever hear of it?] In Brain's case, it appears as though it wasn't. He was not in Antarctica...he was allegedly in Somalia. Nursie is also supposed to have "seven hostile actions" in his jacket. :-) Where and when be those "hostile actions?" :-) He won't even provide us with the callsign of ONE station he "worked" while in Somalia. Of course not. Same goes for bands/modes/antennas/rigs used. But the lack of detail doesn't mean the alleged operation didn't happen. Please tell me you're just playing "Devil's Advocate", Jim...! Running out of support for your nastygram statements? :-) The lack of detail is a different issue completely. You've GOT to be kidding me. Nursie obviously cannot take any view opposite of his. :-) I can tell you in INTIMATE detail the sation I had set up in my barracks on Oki in 81...Equipment, antennas, I even still have the log. Although I don't have my copy of the AMRS authorization, I can give specifics about who/what/where, callsign, and even have a couple of QSL cards from folks I worked... Okay, tell us. In "INTIMATE" detail. [dreams about J.Lo. don't have to be included] FULL DETAIL. Official permission, da whole magilla. He can't even TELL us ONE callsign of anyone he worked...?!?! No proof = Didn't happen. Not at all. No proof = Reasonable doubt. No proof on short notice = reasonable doubt. No proof after two years = didn't happen. Proof on "seven hostile actions?" [didn't happen] Proof on "MARS is amateur radio?" [DoD says otherwise] Nothing more or less. His "nothing more" can't be much less than what it's been, Jim! Poor nursie, still hating and raging, meanmouthing everyone who doesn't believe him...and then wanting "meaningful discussion" ! Fine example of an amateur extra class radio amateur. Too bad the ARRL doesn't have a "Cover Plague" award. :-) LHA / WMD |
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#35
June 8th 04, 12:53 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: "Avery Hightower" Date: 6/7/2004 3:57 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: .net "N2EY" wrote in message ... No proof = Reasonable doubt. Nothing more or less. You just don't get it, do you Jim. On rrap you must either agree with K4CAP/K4YZ and accede to every whimsical demand of his, or you are a low-life lying scum sucking weasel. Reasonable doubt is not an option. What "reasonable doubt"...?!?! Two years of dodging requests for validation of claims made...?!?! And what "demands"...?!?! Again...Someone makes claims of having had experiences that allegedly makes them "knowldegeable" of certain skills or techniques, yet NO EVIDENCE of having actually done them... Eh, Brain...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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#36
June 8th 04, 01:04 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went freebanding. w3rv Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a competent authority for me to have to produce proof for. There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain. Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims. That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up in order to be able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !" It's your bed, Brain. Comfy? Steve, K4YZ |
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#37
June 8th 04, 01:07 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... (William) wrote in message .com... Dave Heil wrote in message ... William wrote: (N2EY) wrote in message .com... TeleTech wrote in message ... Do people put the /W4 on their QSL cards, etc? Is this a big deal these days? No and no. Maybe, maybe not. Depends if the portable designation makes you a different "country." If you were portable KL7 or KH6 or even KP4, I'd definitely put that on my card. Even if it weren't antoher country, I'd still put it on my card. bb Yeah, sort of like T5/N0IMD. Just put it on a card. Dave K8MN I did. But you're not in that log book so you don't get one. Sorry. Who, exactly, did ever get one? Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either. Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain. He didn't ask "..did I?" He asked "..who did?" Nice try. Steve, K4YZ |
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#38
June 8th 04, 01:10 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William) Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. Nope. True. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share KH0. yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation? From you, Brain. On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your "logs". THAT says "lost". How inept. What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's quota. Better go easy. Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion". So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have previously told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or misplaced. I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting tied up in your own mistruths. Steve, K4YZ |
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#39
June 8th 04, 01:16 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/7/2004 9:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (He's got it in his wallet Superham) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (Len Over 21) Date: 6/6/2004 1:01 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: (William) Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact there. Funny. You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale. Where are nursie's logs from Okinawa? No proof = Nothing happened. Unlike Brain, I can refer you to 15th Air Force Auxiliary Military Radio Service station callsign KA6CM, issued from Yakota, Japan, in August of 1981. "Yakota?" :-) "Refer me?" "Refer anyone?" A USAF MARS station? Oh, my! Whoi said anything about MARS, Sir Putzy? I said AMRS. AMRS was the program underwhich US Armed Forces personnel were "licensed" to operate those 2-by-2 KA callsigns in Japan until Japan finally created a reciprocal licensing program for foreigners. An whut it say on dat "referral?" Is it hidden from view again? Where are nursie's other claims? No proof = Nothing happened. You were provided adequate information to inquire directly of the Veteran's Administration, Lennie. Not good enough. NARA is the place. National Archives and Records Administration. St. Louis. And you can get the same questions answered via VA. The VA will acknowledge requests for verification of service. As for the rest, you don't need my entire service record. Be my guest. Of course you won't...The answers would put a cork in YOUR silliness. You can try by reading and UNDERSTANDING DoD Directive 4650.2 data 21 Nov 03. It don' say no ham be da hole MARS. Lennie what did you do with that 14 years of college-level night school you claim to have attended...?!?! Another lie? Steve, K4YZ |
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#40
June 8th 04, 05:47 PM
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William wrote:
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went freebanding. w3rv Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a competent authority for me to have to produce proof for. Best of luck. "William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William". Dave K8MN |
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